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Foreign Language on web
Hello,
in our application we have a text area, where in different language text
needs to be entered, for instant French. Can any one of you help or guide
in this regard.
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Girish S.Havaldar
Re: Foreign Language on web
Posted by Girish Havaldar <ha...@gmail.com>.
Tomcat 5.5
Java1.5.0_06
On 03/10/2007, Pid <p...@pidster.com> wrote:
>
> Girish Havaldar wrote:
> > Hello,
> > in our application we have a text area, where in different language text
> > needs to be entered, for instant French. Can any one of you help or
> guide
> > in this regard.
> >
>
> Sure can, if there's actually a question about a problem you're having
> with the Tomcat server. Please provide the version number you are using
> and the version of Java you have installed.
>
> p
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Re: Foreign Language on web
Posted by Pid <p...@pidster.com>.
Girish Havaldar wrote:
> Hello,
> in our application we have a text area, where in different language text
> needs to be entered, for instant French. Can any one of you help or guide
> in this regard.
>
Sure can, if there's actually a question about a problem you're having
with the Tomcat server. Please provide the version number you are using
and the version of Java you have installed.
p
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Re: Foreign Language on web
Posted by Joshua Fielek <jf...@centriccrm.com>.
IMO, this is not tomcat specific, so reply to me off line if you want to
discuss it further.
I'm not 100% certain, but shouldn't you simply be specifying the
appropriate international character set to use for that instance of your
application? A text field is a text field, it's the character set the
determines the "language" in use. Any UTF-8 application should be able
to use the international character sets.
The secondary issue is changing your labels, etc., but that sort of
internationalization is fairly straightforward and done in lots of
applications. Our app (see: centriccrm.com -- it's open source) is set
up for internationalization and we have functional versions in a wide
variety of languages.
Thanks,
J
Girish Havaldar wrote:
> Ya thats fine if the language is English, what if Japanese or chines
> text needs to be entered, what are the things we need to provide user, so
> that user will just select the language which he wants and enters the text
> in that language.
> I think am not representing my problem correctly.
>
> On 03/10/2007, Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
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>>> in our application we have a text area, where in different language text
>>> needs to be entered, for instant French. Can any one of you help or
>> guide
>>> in this regard.
>> You want to have the user enter text in a different language? That
>> shouldn't be a problem. Just let them know "please enter your text in
>> French".
>>
>> Maybe I don't understand your problem.
>>
>> - -chris
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Re: Foreign Language on web
Posted by Takashi Komatsubara <at...@time-trend.com>.
Hi,
I'm a Japanese.
Simply put "Japanese Only" notification on the web page, which is enough to
notify the user which language should be used.
Or you can identify which language is main language from the users' browser
information.
If they are Japanese, most of them are using Japanese language version of
IE, Firefox or another browser.
Takashi.
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From: "Girish Havaldar" <ha...@gmail.com>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: Foreign Language on web
> Ya thats fine if the language is English, what if Japanese or chines
> text needs to be entered, what are the things we need to provide user, so
> that user will just select the language which he wants and enters the text
> in that language.
> I think am not representing my problem correctly.
>
> On 03/10/2007, Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
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>> Girish,
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>> Girish Havaldar wrote:
>> > in our application we have a text area, where in different language
>> > text
>> > needs to be entered, for instant French. Can any one of you help or
>> guide
>> > in this regard.
>>
>> You want to have the user enter text in a different language? That
>> shouldn't be a problem. Just let them know "please enter your text in
>> French".
>>
>> Maybe I don't understand your problem.
>>
>> - -chris
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>
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Re: Foreign Language on web
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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Girish,
Girish Havaldar wrote:
> Ya thats fine if the language is English, what if Japanese or Chinese
> text needs to be entered, what are the things we need to provide user, so
> that user will just select the language which he wants and enters the text
> in that language.
Well, you certainly need to ask the user what language they are going to
enter. Might I suggest a drop-down that contains a list of the languages
you support? On our site, we provide both language and country, so we
can have (for instance) separate British and US English text if we want.
> I think am not representing my problem correctly.
I think you're right.
Let me guess: you have an application that currently deals exclusively
in a single language. You want to allow other languages. You have a lot
of work to do.
- -chris
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Re: Foreign Language on web
Posted by Pid <p...@pidster.com>.
Girish Havaldar wrote:
> Ya thats fine if the language is English, what if Japanese or chines
> text needs to be entered, what are the things we need to provide user, so
> that user will just select the language which he wants and enters the text
> in that language.
> I think am not representing my problem correctly.
I agree.
Is the problem that *you* don't know what language they're choosing, or
that *they* don't know what language to use?
p
(Please only reply to the list, I don't need a copy as well)
> On 03/10/2007, Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
> Girish,
>
> Girish Havaldar wrote:
>>>> in our application we have a text area, where in different language text
>>>> needs to be entered, for instant French. Can any one of you help or
> guide
>>>> in this regard.
> You want to have the user enter text in a different language? That
> shouldn't be a problem. Just let them know "please enter your text in
> French".
>
> Maybe I don't understand your problem.
>
> -chris
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RE: Foreign Language on web
Posted by Peter Crowther <Pe...@melandra.com>.
> From: Girish Havaldar [mailto:havaldar.girish@gmail.com]
> i need text, i need user to enter text in
> French, Japanese, Hindi(Indian Language) etc.,.
OK.
> By standardizing to UTF-8 and providing the respective
> Font, we 'll be able to accomplish the things?
If you're just using HTML and Tomcat, you don't need to provide the
font. That's up to the user. A user who works in (say) Japanese will
already have a Japanese font installed on their machine, or they
wouldn't be able to use the machine in their own language.
You should probably make sure your Web pages use CSS with font
definitions that have a large range of the Unicode glyphs defined, but
you probably don't need to download the font. This is a good thing,
given that (for example) the Arial Unicode MS TrueType font file was 21
megabytes last time I checked.
> you mentioned about Keyboard setting, can you please brief me
> about keyboard setting little more.
It's not your problem - again, it's the user's. A user who usually
works in (say) Japanese will already have a Japanese keyboard installed
on their machine, and will know how to use it. Otherwise, again, they
would not be able to do their normal work.
All of this assumes that your users are normal Internet users from
around the world. If you're writing software for a different audience,
tell us!
- Peter
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Re: Foreign Language on web
Posted by Girish Havaldar <ha...@gmail.com>.
On 03/10/2007, Peter Crowther <Pe...@melandra.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Girish Havaldar [mailto:havaldar.girish@gmail.com]
> > what are the things we need to provide user, so
> > that user will just select the language which he wants and
> > enters the text in that language.
>
> Do you need to know the language in which the user has entered the text?
> Or do you just need the text?
No, this time,you are almost near,i need text, i need user to enter text in
French, Japanese, Hindi(Indian Language) etc.,.
By standardizing to UTF-8 and providing the respective Font,we 'll be able
to accomplish the things?
you mentioned about Keyboard setting, can you please brief me about keyboard
setting little more.
If you need to know the language, you probably need to provide a HTML
> select field with different options for the different languages, so that
> the user can tell you.
>
> Otherwise, you just need a HTML text input box on the page, and to be
> very careful with your character encodings all the way through the
> application and the HTML pages. I'd suggest standardising on UTF-8 as
> your character encoding for all pages and all text. The user's browser,
> keyboard etc. has the appropriate keyboard settings to allow them to
> enter text in their own language.
>
> Or have I misunderstood the question?
>
> - Peter
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RE: Foreign Language on web
Posted by Peter Crowther <Pe...@melandra.com>.
> From: Girish Havaldar [mailto:havaldar.girish@gmail.com]
> what are the things we need to provide user, so
> that user will just select the language which he wants and
> enters the text in that language.
Do you need to know the language in which the user has entered the text?
Or do you just need the text?
If you need to know the language, you probably need to provide a HTML
select field with different options for the different languages, so that
the user can tell you.
Otherwise, you just need a HTML text input box on the page, and to be
very careful with your character encodings all the way through the
application and the HTML pages. I'd suggest standardising on UTF-8 as
your character encoding for all pages and all text. The user's browser,
keyboard etc. has the appropriate keyboard settings to allow them to
enter text in their own language.
Or have I misunderstood the question?
- Peter
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Re: Foreign Language on web
Posted by Girish Havaldar <ha...@gmail.com>.
Ya thats fine if the language is English, what if Japanese or chines
text needs to be entered, what are the things we need to provide user, so
that user will just select the language which he wants and enters the text
in that language.
I think am not representing my problem correctly.
On 03/10/2007, Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
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> Girish,
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> Girish Havaldar wrote:
> > in our application we have a text area, where in different language text
> > needs to be entered, for instant French. Can any one of you help or
> guide
> > in this regard.
>
> You want to have the user enter text in a different language? That
> shouldn't be a problem. Just let them know "please enter your text in
> French".
>
> Maybe I don't understand your problem.
>
> - -chris
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Re: Foreign Language on web
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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Girish,
Girish Havaldar wrote:
> in our application we have a text area, where in different language text
> needs to be entered, for instant French. Can any one of you help or guide
> in this regard.
You want to have the user enter text in a different language? That
shouldn't be a problem. Just let them know "please enter your text in
French".
Maybe I don't understand your problem.
- -chris
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RE: Foreign Language on web
Posted by Heping Ling <He...@mail.lehman.edu>.
Even though I have not done it myself and I do not know if there are other
ways, I do know that by using Struts you can display your contents in
difference languages. Struts is an Apache product:
http://struts.apache.org/
Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: Girish Havaldar [mailto:havaldar.girish@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 9:44 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Foreign Language on web
Hello,
in our application we have a text area, where in different language text
needs to be entered, for instant French. Can any one of you help or guide
in this regard.
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Girish S.Havaldar
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Re: Foreign Language on web
Posted by Girish Havaldar <ha...@gmail.com>.
But in our application we are not making use of struts frame work.
On 03/10/2007, Heping Ling <Heping.Ling@mail.lehman.edu > wrote:
>
> Even though I have not done it myself and I do not know if there are other
>
> ways, I do know that by using Struts you can display your contents in
> difference languages. Struts is an Apache product:
> http://struts.apache.org/
>
>
> Jason
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Girish Havaldar [mailto:havaldar.girish@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 9:44 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Foreign Language on web
>
> Hello,
> in our application we have a text area, where in different language text
> needs to be entered, for instant French. Can any one of you help or guide
> in this regard.
>
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> Regards
>
> Girish S.Havaldar
>
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