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Posted to dev@excalibur.apache.org by Leo Simons <ls...@jicarilla.org> on 2004/10/23 23:03:19 UTC
Framework, Logkit and Cornerstone have landed in SVN
Hi gang,
I've copied over avalon-framework, avalon-logkit and avalon-cornerstone
into SVN at
trunk/framework
trunk/containerkit/logkit
trunk/cornerstone
avalon-framework has been renamed to excalibur-framework. avalon-logkit
is now excalibur-logkit. Cornerstone has kept its name. Versioning setup
has been simplified (and versions bumped to x.(y+1)-dev), the ant-based
build system called "magic" has been removed and things have been
integrated into the maven build.
Random observation: our testcases kinda suck in many places, leaving
around artifacts or failing every so often for no obvious reason.
Another random observation: maven is acting rather predictably at 1.0,
which is nice.
It all builds for me now (a few people running `svn up && maven
multiproject:install` would be nice). As I focus on cleaning up
distribution areas, it'd be nice if y'all could help tackle the following:
* debugging. I probably made a mistake or ten.
* versioning. Took a first step, but not sure if I got it right.
* project.xml syncing. Ie have all excalibur stuff depend on
excalibur-framework, etc.
* docs. We need to have docs for the new packages up on our site. A
first step might be to copy old cruft over from the old avalon-site
CVS module, but we really need to get correct and updated xdocs in
place.
* releases. I really think we need to do a "release of everything"
sometime soon. The current situation ("where can I find the latest
release of X?" being a difficult-to-answer question) is terrible.
* gump integration. Gump needs to start building this stuff from its
new location.
* cleanup @ avalon. Avalon SVN needs to be tagged and then have the
stuff we took over removed.
* other stuff. Duh.
cheers,
- Leo
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Re: Framework, Logkit and Cornerstone have landed in SVN
Posted by Leo Simons <ls...@jicarilla.org>.
Leo Simons wrote:
> As I focus on cleaning up
> distribution areas
which is now done:
http://excalibur.apache.org/download.cgi?Preferred=http://www.apache.org/dist
I opted to just copy things over rather than burn many more cycles doing
symlinks. Since I only picked the latest revision of everything, the
bandwidth hit is probably acceptable. I didn't generate gpg signatures,
but I did create md5s for everything. GPG sigs will have to follow later.
g'night!
- LSD
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Re: Framework, Logkit and Cornerstone have landed in SVN
Posted by Niclas Hedhman <ni...@hedhman.org>.
On Monday 25 October 2004 11:56, J Aaron Farr wrote:
> GUMP build for Avalon will be shutdown within a month I imagine. At
> that point, everything should point to Excalibur.
Let's say that Gump descriptors for the projects are created first that works,
before talking about switching from Avalon to Excalibur in Gump.
We are not very interested in starting from scratch again in Gump.
Cheers
Niclas
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Re: Framework, Logkit and Cornerstone have landed in SVN
Posted by J Aaron Farr <fa...@apache.org>.
Leo Simons wrote:
> Stephen McConnell wrote:
>
>> Could you please make sure that cornerstone content has a different name
>> to the current cornerstone builds otherwise we are almost certainly
>> going to get conflicts (thinking about gump here). The builds based on
>> maven will not produce the same build results as the avalon variant is
>> generating under magic.
>
>
> hmm. Well, the problem with changing all the names is that it'll be a
> huge inconvenience to users once cornerstone is transferred to excalibur
> completely. It's probably a better idea to just delay building this
> stuff with gump until that happens.
I don't see that there is a need to change many names at all.
GUMP build for Avalon will be shutdown within a month I imagine. At
that point, everything should point to Excalibur.
In fact, I'm not sure if we even wanted to rename the framework and
logkit packages from Avalon to Excalibur, particularly framework. (ie-
just say the name of the framework is "Avalon" and that's all there is
to it).
>>> * cleanup @ avalon. Avalon SVN needs to be tagged and then have the
>>> stuff we took over removed.
>>
>>
>> Cleanup @ avalon is not the concern of this project.
It will be more and more as Avalon is dismantled.
> sure it is! We all want to minimize user confusion, so we need to make
> sure there's a single place people know to go for any particular
> component. Right?
Yep.
I'm dealing with a major application deployment at work this next week,
so I'll be a little tied up, but I'll help as much as I can.
jaaron
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RE: Framework, Logkit and Cornerstone have landed in SVN
Posted by Stephen McConnell <mc...@apache.org>.
OK - your choice.
Let the damage begin.
Steve.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leo Simons [mailto:lsimons@jicarilla.org]
> Sent: 24 October 2004 03:14
> To: Excalibur Developers List
> Subject: Re: Framework, Logkit and Cornerstone have landed in SVN
>
> Stephen McConnell wrote:
> > Could you please make sure that cornerstone content has a different
name
> > to the current cornerstone builds otherwise we are almost certainly
> > going to get conflicts (thinking about gump here). The builds based
on
> > maven will not produce the same build results as the avalon variant
is
> > generating under magic.
>
> hmm. Well, the problem with changing all the names is that it'll be a
> huge inconvenience to users once cornerstone is transferred to
excalibur
> completely. It's probably a better idea to just delay building this
> stuff with gump until that happens.
>
> >> * cleanup @ avalon. Avalon SVN needs to be tagged and then have
the
> >> stuff we took over removed.
> >
> > Cleanup @ avalon is not the concern of this project.
>
> sure it is! We all want to minimize user confusion, so we need to make
> sure there's a single place people know to go for any particular
> component. Right?
>
>
> cheers,
>
>
> - LSD
>
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Re: Framework, Logkit and Cornerstone have landed in SVN
Posted by Leo Simons <ls...@jicarilla.org>.
Stephen McConnell wrote:
> Could you please make sure that cornerstone content has a different name
> to the current cornerstone builds otherwise we are almost certainly
> going to get conflicts (thinking about gump here). The builds based on
> maven will not produce the same build results as the avalon variant is
> generating under magic.
hmm. Well, the problem with changing all the names is that it'll be a
huge inconvenience to users once cornerstone is transferred to excalibur
completely. It's probably a better idea to just delay building this
stuff with gump until that happens.
>> * cleanup @ avalon. Avalon SVN needs to be tagged and then have the
>> stuff we took over removed.
>
> Cleanup @ avalon is not the concern of this project.
sure it is! We all want to minimize user confusion, so we need to make
sure there's a single place people know to go for any particular
component. Right?
cheers,
- LSD
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RE: Framework, Logkit and Cornerstone have landed in SVN
Posted by Stephen McConnell <mc...@apache.org>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leo Simons [mailto:lsimons@jicarilla.org]
> Sent: 23 October 2004 23:03
> To: dev@excalibur.apache.org
> Subject: Framework, Logkit and Cornerstone have landed in SVN
>
> Hi gang,
>
> I've copied over avalon-framework, avalon-logkit and
avalon-cornerstone
> into SVN at
>
> trunk/framework
> trunk/containerkit/logkit
> trunk/cornerstone
>
> avalon-framework has been renamed to excalibur-framework.
avalon-logkit
> is now excalibur-logkit. Cornerstone has kept its name.
Could you please make sure that cornerstone content has a different name
to the current cornerstone builds otherwise we are almost certainly
going to get conflicts (thinking about gump here). The builds based on
maven will not produce the same build results as the avalon variant is
generating under magic.
> Versioning setup
> has been simplified (and versions bumped to x.(y+1)-dev), the
ant-based
> build system called "magic" has been removed and things have been
> integrated into the maven build.
>
> Random observation: our testcases kinda suck in many places, leaving
> around artifacts or failing every so often for no obvious reason.
> Another random observation: maven is acting rather predictably at 1.0,
> which is nice.
>
> It all builds for me now (a few people running `svn up && maven
> multiproject:install` would be nice). As I focus on cleaning up
> distribution areas, it'd be nice if y'all could help tackle the
following:
>
> * debugging. I probably made a mistake or ten.
> * versioning. Took a first step, but not sure if I got it right.
> * project.xml syncing. Ie have all excalibur stuff depend on
> excalibur-framework, etc.
> * docs. We need to have docs for the new packages up on our site. A
> first step might be to copy old cruft over from the old
avalon-site
> CVS module, but we really need to get correct and updated xdocs in
> place.
> * releases. I really think we need to do a "release of everything"
> sometime soon. The current situation ("where can I find the latest
> release of X?" being a difficult-to-answer question) is terrible.
> * gump integration. Gump needs to start building this stuff from its
> new location.
> * cleanup @ avalon. Avalon SVN needs to be tagged and then have the
> stuff we took over removed.
Leo:
Cleanup @ avalon is not the concern of this project.
Cheers, Stephen.
> * other stuff. Duh.
>
> cheers,
>
>
> - Leo
>
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