What is Jakarta?

[Ted Husted <ne...@husted.com>]

Since Java-Apache has apparently never actually been charted by the
ASF, why not ask the board go ahead and charter it like the recent PMCs
for PHP, Perl, and TCL, e.g. 

" ... the Apache Java Committee be and hereby is responsible  for the
creation and maintenance of software related to the Java programming
language ... but excluding Java Servlet-related software which is the
responsibility of the Apache Jakarta Committee;"

This could lead to something like :

<  java.apache.org >

Alexandria - a CVS/Javadoc/Source code/Documentation management system.

Ant - a Java based build tool.

CJAN - [early planning stage - method for distributing Java components]

JMeter  - a  desktop application load test functional behavior and
measure performance. 

Logj4 -  a tool to help the programmer output log statements to a
variety of output targets. 

ORO - a set of text-processing Java classes that provide Perl5
compatible regular expressions.

RegEx - a regular expression package for Java.


< jakarta.apache.org >

JServ - a servlet engine implementating the Java Servlet 2.0 API.

JSSI - a Java servlet that implements the <SERVLET> tag as specified by
the Java Web Server.

Tomcat - the Reference Implementation for the Java Servlet 2.2 and
JavaServer Pages 1.1 APIs.

Watchdog - validation tests for the Servlet and JavaServer Pages
specifications


Avalon - a common framework for server applications 

JAMES - an enterprise mail server (Java Apache Mail Enterprise Server).

Jetspeed - an enterprise information portal. 

Slide -  a WebDAV content management system.

Jyve - a servlet-based FAQ-O-Matic system.


ECS - the Element Construction Set generates elements for various
markup languages.

Struts - a Model 2 (MVC) application framework.

Taglib - a JSP taglib repository.

Turbine  - a servlet-based framework for experienced Java developers.

Velocity - a template engine providing an alternative to Java Server
Pages (JSPs) or PHP. 

</>

This addresses Jakarta being "out of scope", and mitigates the question
of whether a single PMC can oversee so many subprojects. 

The new Apache Java PMC (consisting of active committers from those
subprojects) can then focus on the best way to organize and expose the
smaller toolsets, which may also be useful to the XML products.

Also, was the following ever discussed at the members meeting, and if
so, what was the outcome?

>  1) should the PMC report directly to the board
>  2) should the PMC consist entirely of ASF members
>  3) should the PMC chairperson be an ASF member
>  4) should the PMC composition be set by the board 
>      or delegated to the project after the initial PMC creation
>  5) should the appointment of the PMC chairperson be 
>      restricted to candidates proposed by the project

I'm about to make another pass at the proposed guidelines, and want to
be sure we are in compliance with any recent resolutions. I've read the
ASF board minutes, but haven't found the "member" minutes.

-- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
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Re: What is Jakarta?

[Jon Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>]

on 2/6/01 4:32 AM, "Ted Husted" <ne...@husted.com> wrote:

> Since Java-Apache has apparently never actually been charted by the
> ASF, why not ask the board go ahead and charter it like the recent PMCs
> for PHP, Perl, and TCL, e.g.

Lets nip this discussion in the bud. Java Apache (ie: java.apache.org) is
going away. It will be no more. It is not being added to. It is not being
changed. It is going away. End of story.

Sun owns the trademark on the word Java (tm) and as part of the unwritten
(ie: spoken) agreement for creating the Jakarta Project, we agreed to stop
using java(tm).apache.org.

So, discuss Jakarta at will, just don't discuss Java Apache.

:-)

thanks,

-jon

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