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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org> on 2006/11/03 08:47:29 UTC

The Cocoon documentation: a lot has happened here

2 weeks ago, Arje posted a long list of things that need to be improved with our
website and documentation. I can't say that all the things are resolved but
Helma and I have made good progress:

  - Following the split up of Cocoon (the code) we also split up the
    documentation into much smaller pieces. The rule is that each deployment
    unit has it's own documentation.

  - Publishing our docs to cocoon.apache.org will be 4 steps that have to be
    performed at the shell at cocoon.zones.apche.org (see
    http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/cdocs/1201.html) Thanks Vadim for
    your help with that!

    I think that's a good compromise between fast turn-around-cycles and
    following the policy of having all our website content in SVN.

  - The Daisy Maven plugin is in place and is able to extract the content of
    our CMS.

  - The documentation is automatically exported to
    http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/dev-docs/ every 4 hours.

    This export can also be triggered off from the Continuum web app.
    Go to http://cocoon.zones.apache.org:12000/continuum/servlet/continuum and
    rebuild the "$cdcos" project.

  - Ross and I added news items to the homepage. As Ross explained, this list
    is created dynamically by a query.

At http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/cdocs/1201.html you can find how-tos 
(about adding and publishing docs) and an overview of how the documentation 
system works.

                                    - o -

In my opinion the technical problems are mostly solved. The next step is filling
the CMS with content. In particular we should focus on two sites

  - cdocs-main-site (http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/cdocs-site-main/)
  - cdocs-core (http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/cdocs-core/)

Then it's time to publish the new docs. WDYT?

Of course, this shouldn't prevent you from working on the many other sites 
(forms, template, flowscript etc.) if you think that your work is more efficient 
there.

                                    - o -

Helma will also work on a new flashy design for our site, though we both don't 
think that this effort should block publishing the docs using the "well-known" 
Maven skin as soon as the content is good enough. Does anybody disagree?

                                    - o -

As many people agreed that it is *very important* to have good documentation, 
Helma and I hope that others join us. Don't hesitate if you think that all this 
stuff is complicated. It's definitly not! Just go to 
http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/, choose the site that you want to improve 
and do it!

-- 
Reinhard Pötz           Independent Consultant, Trainer & (IT)-Coach
{Software Engineering, Open Source, Web Applications, Apache Cocoon}

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Re: The Cocoon documentation: a lot has happened here

Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@apache.org>.
Reinhard Poetz wrote:
> Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>> Great work!
> 
> Thank you :-)
> 
>> Is there any possibility to change the order of the navigation items,
>> for example, if you look at:
>>
>> http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/dev-docs/core-modules/core/2.2/
>>
>> The first main topic is about blocks and further down the list is the
>> core. I think this should be the other way round, especially as the
>> blocks stuff is not finished yet.
> 
> Yes, it's the same order as in Daisy. Go to 
> http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/cdocs-core/, then click on [Go to 
> navigation document], and then select "Edit" from the "Page Actions" menu item.
> 
Thanks, that works - for some reason I didn't manage to change it some
days ago.

Carsten

-- 
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http://www.s-und-n.de
http://www.osoco.org/weblogs/rael/

Re: The Cocoon documentation: a lot has happened here

Posted by Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org>.
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> Great work!

Thank you :-)

> Is there any possibility to change the order of the navigation items,
> for example, if you look at:
> 
> http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/dev-docs/core-modules/core/2.2/
> 
> The first main topic is about blocks and further down the list is the
> core. I think this should be the other way round, especially as the
> blocks stuff is not finished yet.

Yes, it's the same order as in Daisy. Go to 
http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/cdocs-core/, then click on [Go to 
navigation document], and then select "Edit" from the "Page Actions" menu item.

-- 
Reinhard Pötz           Independent Consultant, Trainer & (IT)-Coach 

{Software Engineering, Open Source, Web Applications, Apache Cocoon}

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Re: The Cocoon documentation: a lot has happened here

Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@apache.org>.
Great work!

Is there any possibility to change the order of the navigation items,
for example, if you look at:

http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/dev-docs/core-modules/core/2.2/

The first main topic is about blocks and further down the list is the
core. I think this should be the other way round, especially as the
blocks stuff is not finished yet.

Carsten

Reinhard Poetz wrote:
> 2 weeks ago, Arje posted a long list of things that need to be improved with our
> website and documentation. I can't say that all the things are resolved but
> Helma and I have made good progress:
> 
>   - Following the split up of Cocoon (the code) we also split up the
>     documentation into much smaller pieces. The rule is that each deployment
>     unit has it's own documentation.
> 
>   - Publishing our docs to cocoon.apache.org will be 4 steps that have to be
>     performed at the shell at cocoon.zones.apche.org (see
>     http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/cdocs/1201.html) Thanks Vadim for
>     your help with that!
> 
>     I think that's a good compromise between fast turn-around-cycles and
>     following the policy of having all our website content in SVN.
> 
>   - The Daisy Maven plugin is in place and is able to extract the content of
>     our CMS.
> 
>   - The documentation is automatically exported to
>     http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/dev-docs/ every 4 hours.
> 
>     This export can also be triggered off from the Continuum web app.
>     Go to http://cocoon.zones.apache.org:12000/continuum/servlet/continuum and
>     rebuild the "$cdcos" project.
> 
>   - Ross and I added news items to the homepage. As Ross explained, this list
>     is created dynamically by a query.
> 
> At http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/cdocs/1201.html you can find how-tos 
> (about adding and publishing docs) and an overview of how the documentation 
> system works.
> 
>                                     - o -
> 
> In my opinion the technical problems are mostly solved. The next step is filling
> the CMS with content. In particular we should focus on two sites
> 
>   - cdocs-main-site (http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/cdocs-site-main/)
>   - cdocs-core (http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/cdocs-core/)
> 
> Then it's time to publish the new docs. WDYT?
> 
> Of course, this shouldn't prevent you from working on the many other sites 
> (forms, template, flowscript etc.) if you think that your work is more efficient 
> there.
> 
>                                     - o -
> 
> Helma will also work on a new flashy design for our site, though we both don't 
> think that this effort should block publishing the docs using the "well-known" 
> Maven skin as soon as the content is good enough. Does anybody disagree?
> 
>                                     - o -
> 
> As many people agreed that it is *very important* to have good documentation, 
> Helma and I hope that others join us. Don't hesitate if you think that all this 
> stuff is complicated. It's definitly not! Just go to 
> http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/, choose the site that you want to improve 
> and do it!
> 


-- 
Carsten Ziegeler - Chief Architect
http://www.s-und-n.de
http://www.osoco.org/weblogs/rael/

Re: The Cocoon documentation: a lot has happened here

Posted by Andreas Hochsteger <an...@gmail.com>.
2006/11/5, Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org>:
> Andreas Hochsteger wrote:
>
> > May I get some karma to edit the docs in Daisy?
> > My username is 'ahochsteger'.
>
> done

Thanks!

Just trying to get familiar with Daisy now ... looks really good to me, BTW!

-- 
Andreas

Re: The Cocoon documentation: a lot has happened here

Posted by Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org>.
Andreas Hochsteger wrote:

> May I get some karma to edit the docs in Daisy?
> My username is 'ahochsteger'.

done

-- 
Reinhard Pötz           Independent Consultant, Trainer & (IT)-Coach 

{Software Engineering, Open Source, Web Applications, Apache Cocoon}

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Re: The Cocoon documentation: a lot has happened here

Posted by Andreas Hochsteger <an...@gmail.com>.
2006/11/3, Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org>:
>
> 2 weeks ago, Arje posted a long list of things that need to be improved with our
> website and documentation. I can't say that all the things are resolved but
> Helma and I have made good progress:

Thanks for your effort - it's really a big step forward!

> As many people agreed that it is *very important* to have good documentation,
> Helma and I hope that others join us. Don't hesitate if you think that all this
> stuff is complicated. It's definitly not! Just go to
> http://cocoon.zones.apache.org/daisy/, choose the site that you want to improve
> and do it!

May I get some karma to edit the docs in Daisy?
My username is 'ahochsteger'.

Thanks,
Andreas