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Posted to diversity@apache.org by Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> on 2019/07/17 10:42:46 UTC
Duty Calls & Focus and Attention
This email is all meta comments. To start off with, it would be helpful
if there were a public mailing list under the @diversity.apache.org
umbrella to discuss non-development topics. If for no other reason than
to say that posts like this one don't belong on dev@diversity which is
intended to focus on things like Survey Design, Contributor Experience
Research, Outreachy coordination, diversity.apache.org website
development and the like.
Second, two links:
https://s.apache.org/DutyCalls
https://s.apache.org/FocusAndAttention
For the second link, the whole thing as well as the video are worth
reading and watching, but scrolling to the bottom and clicking through
the slides will give a good summary.
- Sam Ruby
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Re: Duty Calls & Focus and Attention
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>.
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 7:01 AM Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 17/07/2019 12.56, Naomi S wrote:
> > "that's what discuss@ is for, no?" can be expanded to "that's what the
> > discuss@diversity.apache.org mailing list is for, no?"
> >
> > hmm, I am confused then
> >
> > in my infra request, I asked that diversity@apache.org be migrated to
> > discuss@diversity.apache.org, and that diversity@apache.org be set up as an
> > alias for that list. I was under the impression that that had been completed
>
> moving a mailing list from the apex domain to a sub-domain is not a
> simple task, I'd expect this to take a while, especially considering
> summer vacations etc. It might also have been missed in the request, I'd
> suggest either pinging users@infra or raising a separate ticket about
> this one item only.
Alternately, use https://selfserve.apache.org/mail.html and request
discuss@diversity.apache.org and leave this mailing list as a
historical artifact. I don't know about others, but I would be OK
with that. I'm only asserting that there needs to be an identified
place to discuss public, non-development diversity and inclusion
topics without interfering with the important work being done on
dev@diversity.
- Sam Ruby
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Re: Duty Calls & Focus and Attention
Posted by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>.
On 17/07/2019 12.56, Naomi S wrote:
> "that's what discuss@ is for, no?" can be expanded to "that's what the
> discuss@diversity.apache.org mailing list is for, no?"
>
> hmm, I am confused then
>
> in my infra request, I asked that diversity@apache.org be migrated to
> discuss@diversity.apache.org, and that diversity@apache.org be set up as an
> alias for that list. I was under the impression that that had been completed
moving a mailing list from the apex domain to a sub-domain is not a
simple task, I'd expect this to take a while, especially considering
summer vacations etc. It might also have been missed in the request, I'd
suggest either pinging users@infra or raising a separate ticket about
this one item only.
>
> On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 at 12:54, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 6:49 AM Naomi S <no...@tumbolia.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 at 12:43, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This email is all meta comments. To start off with, it would be
>> helpful
>>>> if there were a public mailing list under the @diversity.apache.org
>>>> umbrella to discuss non-development topics.
>>>
>>> that's what discuss@ is for, no?
>>
>> Your use of verb tense confuses me. There is no such list or alias at
>> the moment:
>>
>> [apmail@hermes ~]$ cat .qmail-diversity-discuss
>> cat: .qmail-diversity-discuss: No such file or directory
>>
>> [apmail@hermes ~]$ ls lists/diversity.apache.org/
>> dev private
>>
>> - Sam Ruby
>>
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Re: Duty Calls & Focus and Attention
Posted by Naomi S <no...@tumbolia.org>.
"that's what discuss@ is for, no?" can be expanded to "that's what the
discuss@diversity.apache.org mailing list is for, no?"
hmm, I am confused then
in my infra request, I asked that diversity@apache.org be migrated to
discuss@diversity.apache.org, and that diversity@apache.org be set up as an
alias for that list. I was under the impression that that had been completed
On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 at 12:54, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 6:49 AM Naomi S <no...@tumbolia.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 at 12:43, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> >
> > > This email is all meta comments. To start off with, it would be
> helpful
> > > if there were a public mailing list under the @diversity.apache.org
> > > umbrella to discuss non-development topics.
> >
> > that's what discuss@ is for, no?
>
> Your use of verb tense confuses me. There is no such list or alias at
> the moment:
>
> [apmail@hermes ~]$ cat .qmail-diversity-discuss
> cat: .qmail-diversity-discuss: No such file or directory
>
> [apmail@hermes ~]$ ls lists/diversity.apache.org/
> dev private
>
> - Sam Ruby
>
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> For additional commands, e-mail: diversity-help@apache.org
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Re: Duty Calls & Focus and Attention
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>.
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 6:49 AM Naomi S <no...@tumbolia.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 at 12:43, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>
> > This email is all meta comments. To start off with, it would be helpful
> > if there were a public mailing list under the @diversity.apache.org
> > umbrella to discuss non-development topics.
>
> that's what discuss@ is for, no?
Your use of verb tense confuses me. There is no such list or alias at
the moment:
[apmail@hermes ~]$ cat .qmail-diversity-discuss
cat: .qmail-diversity-discuss: No such file or directory
[apmail@hermes ~]$ ls lists/diversity.apache.org/
dev private
- Sam Ruby
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Re: Duty Calls & Focus and Attention
Posted by Naomi S <no...@tumbolia.org>.
On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 at 12:43, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> This email is all meta comments. To start off with, it would be helpful
> if there were a public mailing list under the @diversity.apache.org
> umbrella to discuss non-development topics.
>
that's what discuss@ is for, no?