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Posted to dev@river.apache.org by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> on 2009/09/23 17:52:09 UTC
No more checkins
Hi,
The last River svn commit I see is from May. What's up?
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: No more checkins
Posted by Jeff Ramsdale <je...@gmail.com>.
Echoing Dennis, I think a characteristic of most successful open
source projects is their adherence to a release rhythm. Apache River
has enough interest and activity to be viable, but without a rhythm of
release that energy dissipates. I would suggest releases every 6
months, even if they are small. This provides motive for people to
stay involved and shepherd their favored feature through the process,
because they have a hope of seeing it released. It also displays to
the Apache Foundation and other interested parties that Apache River
is still relevant (and it is!).
-jeff
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Dennis Reedy <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I suggest you just release what you have right now as AR2.
>
> Regards
>
> Denis
Re: No more checkins
Posted by Dennis Reedy <de...@gmail.com>.
I suggest you just release what you have right now as AR2.
Regards
Denis
On Sep 23, 2009, at 1239PM, Jeremy Easton-Marks wrote:
> Tom, don't worry about the tutorial. If you do have time in the
> future to
> put one together please send it my way.
>
> I've seen some great emails go back and forth about great future
> directions
> for River. It is my opinion though that we need to figure out what
> our goals
> are to get River out the door. I am afraid we may end up in a constant
> developer cycle if these decisions aren't made and adhered to.
>
> If we don't get something out the door soon I think we are going to
> miss a
> great opportunity to position River as a possible solution for cloud
> computing, convergence of the three screens(Mobile, TV, and
> Computer), and
> in embedded electronics.
>
> I would vote that the senior active commiters put together a list
> and a
> deadline for what needs to be done. Put the list up and start
> assigning
> tasks to people who want it. I think at this point River needs to be
> led
> across the finish line. This is not meant to be an insult to anyone
> but I
> believe Jukka would do well in this role.
>
> Jeremy R. Easton-Marks
>
> "être fort pour être utile"
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Tom Hobbs <to...@sucfin.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I read this email title as "No more chickens", but what you actually
>> wrote makes far more sense. :-)
>>
>> Months ago I promised Jeremy a River tutorial, but just haven't had
>> the
>> time to do anything on anything. (Sorry Jeremy, if it makes you feel
>> any better, I feel awful for not delivering.)
>>
>> Maybe with England's rising levels of unemployment I'll suddenly find
>> the time to do something useful on River...
>>
>> In case anyone is interested, I'm hoping to find the time to look at;
>>
>> - River tutorials/how-tos/idiot's guides
>> - River-52
>> - Some new Admin interfaces I'd like to introduce
>> - Groovy configuration stuff
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jukka Zitting [mailto:jukka.zitting@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 23 September 2009 16:52
>> To: river-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: No more checkins
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The last River svn commit I see is from May. What's up?
>>
>> BR,
>>
>> Jukka Zitting
>>
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Re: No more checkins
Posted by Jeremy Easton-Marks <co...@gmail.com>.
Tom, don't worry about the tutorial. If you do have time in the future to
put one together please send it my way.
I've seen some great emails go back and forth about great future directions
for River. It is my opinion though that we need to figure out what our goals
are to get River out the door. I am afraid we may end up in a constant
developer cycle if these decisions aren't made and adhered to.
If we don't get something out the door soon I think we are going to miss a
great opportunity to position River as a possible solution for cloud
computing, convergence of the three screens(Mobile, TV, and Computer), and
in embedded electronics.
I would vote that the senior active commiters put together a list and a
deadline for what needs to be done. Put the list up and start assigning
tasks to people who want it. I think at this point River needs to be led
across the finish line. This is not meant to be an insult to anyone but I
believe Jukka would do well in this role.
Jeremy R. Easton-Marks
"être fort pour être utile"
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Tom Hobbs <to...@sucfin.com> wrote:
> I read this email title as "No more chickens", but what you actually
> wrote makes far more sense. :-)
>
> Months ago I promised Jeremy a River tutorial, but just haven't had the
> time to do anything on anything. (Sorry Jeremy, if it makes you feel
> any better, I feel awful for not delivering.)
>
> Maybe with England's rising levels of unemployment I'll suddenly find
> the time to do something useful on River...
>
> In case anyone is interested, I'm hoping to find the time to look at;
>
> - River tutorials/how-tos/idiot's guides
> - River-52
> - Some new Admin interfaces I'd like to introduce
> - Groovy configuration stuff
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jukka Zitting [mailto:jukka.zitting@gmail.com]
> Sent: 23 September 2009 16:52
> To: river-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: No more checkins
>
> Hi,
>
> The last River svn commit I see is from May. What's up?
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
> www.sucdenfinancial.com
>
> Sucden Financial Limited, Plantation Place South, 60 Great Tower Street,
> London EC3R 5AZ
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RE: No more checkins
Posted by Tom Hobbs <to...@sucfin.com>.
I read this email title as "No more chickens", but what you actually
wrote makes far more sense. :-)
Months ago I promised Jeremy a River tutorial, but just haven't had the
time to do anything on anything. (Sorry Jeremy, if it makes you feel
any better, I feel awful for not delivering.)
Maybe with England's rising levels of unemployment I'll suddenly find
the time to do something useful on River...
In case anyone is interested, I'm hoping to find the time to look at;
- River tutorials/how-tos/idiot's guides
- River-52
- Some new Admin interfaces I'd like to introduce
- Groovy configuration stuff
Cheers,
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Jukka Zitting [mailto:jukka.zitting@gmail.com]
Sent: 23 September 2009 16:52
To: river-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: No more checkins
Hi,
The last River svn commit I see is from May. What's up?
BR,
Jukka Zitting
www.sucdenfinancial.com
Sucden Financial Limited, Plantation Place South, 60 Great Tower Street, London EC3R 5AZ
Telephone +44 203 207 5000
Registered in England no. 1095841
VAT registration no. GB 446 9061 33
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Re: No more checkins & help with Kerberos KDC server
Posted by Jeff Ramsdale <je...@gmail.com>.
Hi Jukka,
I think we could use help with River-317 (
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RIVER-317 )--deploying River
artifacts to the Maven central repo. I posted a set of poms but I need
other eyes to validate them. Then we need a process to apply them to
the artifacts of the build. We'd like to release the current artifacts
to get them out there as well as a test run for AR2. There will
undoubtedly be questions of nomenclature along the way...
-jeff
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au> wrote:
>> You want results not excuses,
>
> Neither really, I'm just trying to assess the current state of the
> project and see if there are any blockers that I can help with.
>
> It's an open source project so there's no obligation to produce
> results and thus no need for excuses. The reason why one of the
> Incubator graduation criteria is a diverse community is that
> inactivity of any one or two committers will not be enough to bring
> the project to a halt.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
Re: No more checkins & help with Kerberos KDC server
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au> wrote:
> You want results not excuses,
Neither really, I'm just trying to assess the current state of the
project and see if there are any blockers that I can help with.
It's an open source project so there's no obligation to produce
results and thus no need for excuses. The reason why one of the
Incubator graduation criteria is a diverse community is that
inactivity of any one or two committers will not be enough to bring
the project to a halt.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: No more checkins & help with Kerberos KDC server
Posted by Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>.
You want results not excuses,
I'm getting ready to commit some minor fix patches, setup the build.xml
file for the jtreg tests, and add the com.sun.tools.classdepend package
dependency into the Manifest for ClassDep.jar in the main build.xml
file. Note my ant scripting skills are very rough, so I'll have to
brush up (I'm no ant expert).
I need to set up the Kerberos KDC server for the qa & jtreg tests, the
zone is now available, I've successfully logged into the zone, it's
ready to be configured. I've never set up a Kerberos KDC server, this
will require some reading, unless someone on the list is prepared to
walk me through it.
Then I'd like to rerun the jtreg and qa tests and we're ready to release
AR2.
I haven't committed any of the experimental stuff I'm playing with, I'll
commit that to a new package after AR2.
Cheers,
Peter.
Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The last River svn commit I see is from May. What's up?
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
>