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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 44313] New: - Saving in authoring causes updates to live

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           Summary: Saving in authoring causes updates to live
           Product: Lenya
           Version: 2.0
          Platform: Other
        OS/Version: other
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: Repository Integration
        AssignedTo: dev@lenya.apache.org
        ReportedBy: rfrovarp@apache.org


If a published document is saved (or updated), an update in the live area is
tripped as well. A new document and .meta file is generated with an old revision
be shot. The .rcml file is also updated. Content doesn't change, but these
updates aren't necessary. I have seen cases where the document is checked out in
the .rcml file under the live area, and then is not checked back in. This
prevents any action from occurring to the document. To fix, the .rcml file under
live must be edited and the application server restarted.

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------- Additional Comments From andreas@apache.org  2008-01-28 08:59 -------
(In reply to comment #3)
> I'm confused as to what meta data is being talked about.

The current workflow state is stored in the meta data.

> Shouldn't the meta data only be updated in live after a publish?

All area versions have the same workflow state - after publishing, the authoring
has the state "live", and the live version has the state "live". When you edit
the document again, both authoring and live version are set to the state
"authoring".

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------- Additional Comments From andreas@apache.org  2008-01-28 08:43 -------
IIRC the reason for this behaviour is that all area versions of a document share
a common workflow. When the authoring document's workflow meta data change, the
live version's workflow meta data are updated as well.

A possible solution would be to introduce area-independent meta data, but this
would be a bit difficult to implement and hacky, because the repository layer
(which handles meta data) doesn't know about the concept of areas.

The cleanest solution would IMO be to abandon the area concept. This would
require a comprehensive analysis of possible workflow scenarios.

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------- Additional Comments From rfrovarp@apache.org  2008-01-28 08:53 -------
I'm confused as to what meta data is being talked about. Shouldn't the meta data
only be updated in live after a publish?

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------- Additional Comments From andreas@apache.org  2008-01-28 08:45 -------
Random thought: Another option would be a fallback hierarchy. If an area version
doesn't contain a value for a particular meta data element, it is fetched from
the authoring/trash/archive version.

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------- Additional Comments From nettings@apache.org  2008-01-28 09:53 -------
(In reply to comment #4)
> (In reply to comment #3)
> > I'm confused as to what meta data is being talked about.
> 
> The current workflow state is stored in the meta data.
> 
> > Shouldn't the meta data only be updated in live after a publish?
> 
> All area versions have the same workflow state - after publishing, the authoring
> has the state "live", and the live version has the state "live". When you edit
> the document again, both authoring and live version are set to the state
> "authoring".

why should a live document have workflow meta data at all? doesn't make sense to
me. and btw, +1 to get rid of areas and -1 to any quick fixes that introduce yet
another area dependency.


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------- Additional Comments From rfrovarp@apache.org  2008-01-28 09:52 -------
Okay, I see that now. Of course the follow up question is, why? What difference
does that information make to the live area? 

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