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Posted to general@attic.apache.org by sebb <se...@gmail.com> on 2018/05/05 12:39:14 UTC
Proposal to fix oltu.[.us|.eu].apache.org banner prefixing
The Attic banners are currently added to pages oltu.apache.org
However they are not added to oltu.us.apache.org and oltu.eu.apache.org
This could be confusing.
A simple solution would be to create the directories:
xdocs/oltu.eu.apache.org
xdocs/oltu.us.apache.org
This is not ideal long-term, but at least in the meantime the banner
prefixing would work.
A better solution can be sorted out later.
Are there any objections to creating those directories?
S.
Re: Proposal to fix oltu.[.us|.eu].apache.org banner prefixing
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 6 May 2018 at 09:58, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6 May 2018 at 09:06, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
>> Le samedi 5 mai 2018, 17:38:21 CEST Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit :
>>> Le samedi 5 mai 2018, 17:24:09 CEST sebb a écrit :
>>> > On 5 May 2018 at 16:15, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
>>> > > Honestly, who knows or uses the .us and .eu DNS names?
>>> > > the requirement seems quite theoretical to me: is not worth making site
>>> > > maintenance harder
>>> >
>>> > I am only suggesting doing it for oltu.
>>>
>>> honestly, doing it or not just for this one is not critical
>>> -0
>> sorry, was angry yesterday: that's human life :)
>>
>> +1
>> AFAIK, adding 3 DNS entries banner flag files instead of only one won't wreak
>> havoc and will improve completeness of the solution
>>
>> let's do it and continue to move forward
>
> OK, thanks.
>
> I'll wait a couple more days in case there are other comments.
No objections so will add the directories.
They can be removed later if necessary, e.g. if a better solution is found.
>> Regards,
>>
>> Hervé
>>
>>>
>>> > > but I had a little idea on the flag file creation that could do the job,
>>> > > while even simplifying site maintenance = what it is more about
>>> >
>>> > Automation is for later.
>>>
>>> when automation adds a big change, yes
>>> the idea here is so simple that no need to wait
>>>
>>> I tested it in my asf-attic.github.io for oltu:
>>> https://github.com/asf-attic/asf-attic.github.io/tree/source
>>>
>>> works like a charm with just a few lines of shell script
>>>
>>> I didn't take time to create a branch for review here, since this repo is
>>> not a real shared repo (and I was lazy)
>>> but in normal situation, this would be in a branch so we can discuss if we
>>> want to merge the commit, or change it
>>> (and now I regret not having created that branch, since it would have been a
>>> good demo of discussing before merging...
>>>
>>> > > since what we need is just to create flag file, why not code the
>>> > > creation
>>> > > basically in build.sh, in basic shell
>>> > >
>>> > > with a basic convention like adding XML comments in projects/*.xml:
>>> > > <!--
>>> > > retired flag: oltu
>>> > > -->
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > build.sh could basically do:
>>> > >
>>> > > for retired in `grep 'retired flag:' xdocs/projects/*.xml | awk '{ print
>>> > > $3 }'` do
>>> > >
>>> > > for d in $retired $retired.us $retired.eu
>>> > > do
>>> > >
>>> > > mkdir docs/flagged/$d.apache.org
>>> > > touch docs/flagged/$d.apache.org/$d.apache.org
>>> > >
>>> > > done
>>> > >
>>> > > done
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > I know, I know, that's not very elegant...
>>> > >
>>> > > But it would ease maintenance just now, isn't it? and as a side effect,
>>> > > treat the .us and .eu DNS names...
>>> > > (and nobody will cry when reimplementing the feature with a new build
>>> > > tool)
>>> > >
>>> > > Regards,
>>> > >
>>> > > Hervé
>>> > >
>>> > > Le samedi 5 mai 2018, 14:39:14 CEST sebb a écrit :
>>> > >> The Attic banners are currently added to pages oltu.apache.org
>>> > >> However they are not added to oltu.us.apache.org and oltu.eu.apache.org
>>> > >> This could be confusing.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> A simple solution would be to create the directories:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> xdocs/oltu.eu.apache.org
>>> > >> xdocs/oltu.us.apache.org
>>> > >>
>>> > >> This is not ideal long-term, but at least in the meantime the banner
>>> > >> prefixing would work.
>>> > >> A better solution can be sorted out later.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Are there any objections to creating those directories?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> S.
>>
>>
Re: Proposal to fix oltu.[.us|.eu].apache.org banner prefixing
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 6 May 2018 at 09:06, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
> Le samedi 5 mai 2018, 17:38:21 CEST Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit :
>> Le samedi 5 mai 2018, 17:24:09 CEST sebb a écrit :
>> > On 5 May 2018 at 16:15, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
>> > > Honestly, who knows or uses the .us and .eu DNS names?
>> > > the requirement seems quite theoretical to me: is not worth making site
>> > > maintenance harder
>> >
>> > I am only suggesting doing it for oltu.
>>
>> honestly, doing it or not just for this one is not critical
>> -0
> sorry, was angry yesterday: that's human life :)
>
> +1
> AFAIK, adding 3 DNS entries banner flag files instead of only one won't wreak
> havoc and will improve completeness of the solution
>
> let's do it and continue to move forward
OK, thanks.
I'll wait a couple more days in case there are other comments.
> Regards,
>
> Hervé
>
>>
>> > > but I had a little idea on the flag file creation that could do the job,
>> > > while even simplifying site maintenance = what it is more about
>> >
>> > Automation is for later.
>>
>> when automation adds a big change, yes
>> the idea here is so simple that no need to wait
>>
>> I tested it in my asf-attic.github.io for oltu:
>> https://github.com/asf-attic/asf-attic.github.io/tree/source
>>
>> works like a charm with just a few lines of shell script
>>
>> I didn't take time to create a branch for review here, since this repo is
>> not a real shared repo (and I was lazy)
>> but in normal situation, this would be in a branch so we can discuss if we
>> want to merge the commit, or change it
>> (and now I regret not having created that branch, since it would have been a
>> good demo of discussing before merging...
>>
>> > > since what we need is just to create flag file, why not code the
>> > > creation
>> > > basically in build.sh, in basic shell
>> > >
>> > > with a basic convention like adding XML comments in projects/*.xml:
>> > > <!--
>> > > retired flag: oltu
>> > > -->
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > build.sh could basically do:
>> > >
>> > > for retired in `grep 'retired flag:' xdocs/projects/*.xml | awk '{ print
>> > > $3 }'` do
>> > >
>> > > for d in $retired $retired.us $retired.eu
>> > > do
>> > >
>> > > mkdir docs/flagged/$d.apache.org
>> > > touch docs/flagged/$d.apache.org/$d.apache.org
>> > >
>> > > done
>> > >
>> > > done
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I know, I know, that's not very elegant...
>> > >
>> > > But it would ease maintenance just now, isn't it? and as a side effect,
>> > > treat the .us and .eu DNS names...
>> > > (and nobody will cry when reimplementing the feature with a new build
>> > > tool)
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > >
>> > > Hervé
>> > >
>> > > Le samedi 5 mai 2018, 14:39:14 CEST sebb a écrit :
>> > >> The Attic banners are currently added to pages oltu.apache.org
>> > >> However they are not added to oltu.us.apache.org and oltu.eu.apache.org
>> > >> This could be confusing.
>> > >>
>> > >> A simple solution would be to create the directories:
>> > >>
>> > >> xdocs/oltu.eu.apache.org
>> > >> xdocs/oltu.us.apache.org
>> > >>
>> > >> This is not ideal long-term, but at least in the meantime the banner
>> > >> prefixing would work.
>> > >> A better solution can be sorted out later.
>> > >>
>> > >> Are there any objections to creating those directories?
>> > >>
>> > >> S.
>
>
Re: Proposal to fix oltu.[.us|.eu].apache.org banner prefixing
Posted by Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>.
Le samedi 5 mai 2018, 17:38:21 CEST Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit :
> Le samedi 5 mai 2018, 17:24:09 CEST sebb a écrit :
> > On 5 May 2018 at 16:15, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
> > > Honestly, who knows or uses the .us and .eu DNS names?
> > > the requirement seems quite theoretical to me: is not worth making site
> > > maintenance harder
> >
> > I am only suggesting doing it for oltu.
>
> honestly, doing it or not just for this one is not critical
> -0
sorry, was angry yesterday: that's human life :)
+1
AFAIK, adding 3 DNS entries banner flag files instead of only one won't wreak
havoc and will improve completeness of the solution
let's do it and continue to move forward
Regards,
Hervé
>
> > > but I had a little idea on the flag file creation that could do the job,
> > > while even simplifying site maintenance = what it is more about
> >
> > Automation is for later.
>
> when automation adds a big change, yes
> the idea here is so simple that no need to wait
>
> I tested it in my asf-attic.github.io for oltu:
> https://github.com/asf-attic/asf-attic.github.io/tree/source
>
> works like a charm with just a few lines of shell script
>
> I didn't take time to create a branch for review here, since this repo is
> not a real shared repo (and I was lazy)
> but in normal situation, this would be in a branch so we can discuss if we
> want to merge the commit, or change it
> (and now I regret not having created that branch, since it would have been a
> good demo of discussing before merging...
>
> > > since what we need is just to create flag file, why not code the
> > > creation
> > > basically in build.sh, in basic shell
> > >
> > > with a basic convention like adding XML comments in projects/*.xml:
> > > <!--
> > > retired flag: oltu
> > > -->
> > >
> > >
> > > build.sh could basically do:
> > >
> > > for retired in `grep 'retired flag:' xdocs/projects/*.xml | awk '{ print
> > > $3 }'` do
> > >
> > > for d in $retired $retired.us $retired.eu
> > > do
> > >
> > > mkdir docs/flagged/$d.apache.org
> > > touch docs/flagged/$d.apache.org/$d.apache.org
> > >
> > > done
> > >
> > > done
> > >
> > >
> > > I know, I know, that's not very elegant...
> > >
> > > But it would ease maintenance just now, isn't it? and as a side effect,
> > > treat the .us and .eu DNS names...
> > > (and nobody will cry when reimplementing the feature with a new build
> > > tool)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Hervé
> > >
> > > Le samedi 5 mai 2018, 14:39:14 CEST sebb a écrit :
> > >> The Attic banners are currently added to pages oltu.apache.org
> > >> However they are not added to oltu.us.apache.org and oltu.eu.apache.org
> > >> This could be confusing.
> > >>
> > >> A simple solution would be to create the directories:
> > >>
> > >> xdocs/oltu.eu.apache.org
> > >> xdocs/oltu.us.apache.org
> > >>
> > >> This is not ideal long-term, but at least in the meantime the banner
> > >> prefixing would work.
> > >> A better solution can be sorted out later.
> > >>
> > >> Are there any objections to creating those directories?
> > >>
> > >> S.
Re: Proposal to fix oltu.[.us|.eu].apache.org banner prefixing
Posted by Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>.
Le samedi 5 mai 2018, 17:24:09 CEST sebb a écrit :
> On 5 May 2018 at 16:15, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
> > Honestly, who knows or uses the .us and .eu DNS names?
> > the requirement seems quite theoretical to me: is not worth making site
> > maintenance harder
>
> I am only suggesting doing it for oltu.
honestly, doing it or not just for this one is not critical
-0
>
> > but I had a little idea on the flag file creation that could do the job,
> > while even simplifying site maintenance = what it is more about
>
> Automation is for later.
when automation adds a big change, yes
the idea here is so simple that no need to wait
I tested it in my asf-attic.github.io for oltu:
https://github.com/asf-attic/asf-attic.github.io/tree/source
works like a charm with just a few lines of shell script
I didn't take time to create a branch for review here, since this repo is not
a real shared repo (and I was lazy)
but in normal situation, this would be in a branch so we can discuss if we
want to merge the commit, or change it
(and now I regret not having created that branch, since it would have been a
good demo of discussing before merging...
>
> > since what we need is just to create flag file, why not code the creation
> > basically in build.sh, in basic shell
> >
> > with a basic convention like adding XML comments in projects/*.xml:
> > <!--
> > retired flag: oltu
> > -->
> >
> >
> > build.sh could basically do:
> >
> > for retired in `grep 'retired flag:' xdocs/projects/*.xml | awk '{ print
> > $3 }'` do
> >
> > for d in $retired $retired.us $retired.eu
> > do
> >
> > mkdir docs/flagged/$d.apache.org
> > touch docs/flagged/$d.apache.org/$d.apache.org
> >
> > done
> >
> > done
> >
> >
> > I know, I know, that's not very elegant...
> >
> > But it would ease maintenance just now, isn't it? and as a side effect,
> > treat the .us and .eu DNS names...
> > (and nobody will cry when reimplementing the feature with a new build
> > tool)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Hervé
> >
> > Le samedi 5 mai 2018, 14:39:14 CEST sebb a écrit :
> >> The Attic banners are currently added to pages oltu.apache.org
> >> However they are not added to oltu.us.apache.org and oltu.eu.apache.org
> >> This could be confusing.
> >>
> >> A simple solution would be to create the directories:
> >>
> >> xdocs/oltu.eu.apache.org
> >> xdocs/oltu.us.apache.org
> >>
> >> This is not ideal long-term, but at least in the meantime the banner
> >> prefixing would work.
> >> A better solution can be sorted out later.
> >>
> >> Are there any objections to creating those directories?
> >>
> >> S.
Re: Proposal to fix oltu.[.us|.eu].apache.org banner prefixing
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 5 May 2018 at 16:15, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
> Honestly, who knows or uses the .us and .eu DNS names?
> the requirement seems quite theoretical to me: is not worth making site
> maintenance harder
I am only suggesting doing it for oltu.
> but I had a little idea on the flag file creation that could do the job, while
> even simplifying site maintenance = what it is more about
Automation is for later.
> since what we need is just to create flag file, why not code the creation
> basically in build.sh, in basic shell
>
> with a basic convention like adding XML comments in projects/*.xml:
> <!--
> retired flag: oltu
> -->
>
>
> build.sh could basically do:
>
> for retired in `grep 'retired flag:' xdocs/projects/*.xml | awk '{ print $3 }'`
> do
> for d in $retired $retired.us $retired.eu
> do
> mkdir docs/flagged/$d.apache.org
> touch docs/flagged/$d.apache.org/$d.apache.org
> done
> done
>
>
> I know, I know, that's not very elegant...
>
> But it would ease maintenance just now, isn't it? and as a side effect, treat
> the .us and .eu DNS names...
> (and nobody will cry when reimplementing the feature with a new build tool)
>
> Regards,
>
> Hervé
>
> Le samedi 5 mai 2018, 14:39:14 CEST sebb a écrit :
>> The Attic banners are currently added to pages oltu.apache.org
>> However they are not added to oltu.us.apache.org and oltu.eu.apache.org
>> This could be confusing.
>>
>> A simple solution would be to create the directories:
>>
>> xdocs/oltu.eu.apache.org
>> xdocs/oltu.us.apache.org
>>
>> This is not ideal long-term, but at least in the meantime the banner
>> prefixing would work.
>> A better solution can be sorted out later.
>>
>> Are there any objections to creating those directories?
>>
>> S.
>
>
Re: Proposal to fix oltu.[.us|.eu].apache.org banner prefixing
Posted by Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>.
Honestly, who knows or uses the .us and .eu DNS names?
the requirement seems quite theoretical to me: is not worth making site
maintenance harder
but I had a little idea on the flag file creation that could do the job, while
even simplifying site maintenance = what it is more about
since what we need is just to create flag file, why not code the creation
basically in build.sh, in basic shell
with a basic convention like adding XML comments in projects/*.xml:
<!--
retired flag: oltu
-->
build.sh could basically do:
for retired in `grep 'retired flag:' xdocs/projects/*.xml | awk '{ print $3 }'`
do
for d in $retired $retired.us $retired.eu
do
mkdir docs/flagged/$d.apache.org
touch docs/flagged/$d.apache.org/$d.apache.org
done
done
I know, I know, that's not very elegant...
But it would ease maintenance just now, isn't it? and as a side effect, treat
the .us and .eu DNS names...
(and nobody will cry when reimplementing the feature with a new build tool)
Regards,
Hervé
Le samedi 5 mai 2018, 14:39:14 CEST sebb a écrit :
> The Attic banners are currently added to pages oltu.apache.org
> However they are not added to oltu.us.apache.org and oltu.eu.apache.org
> This could be confusing.
>
> A simple solution would be to create the directories:
>
> xdocs/oltu.eu.apache.org
> xdocs/oltu.us.apache.org
>
> This is not ideal long-term, but at least in the meantime the banner
> prefixing would work.
> A better solution can be sorted out later.
>
> Are there any objections to creating those directories?
>
> S.