Latest on Maven (was Re: AW: Promoting Apache Flex)

[Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>]

On 11/14/12 2:11 AM, "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de" <ch...@c-ware.de>
wrote:

> 
> There were things, that were really annoying:
> - No Flex FDKs in public Maven repos due to licensing stuff (Even if the
> player stuff still needs to be referenced ... @Alex ... you mentioned some
> internal discussions at Adobe about this ... any changes you'd like to share?)
I got a lot of warm fuzzies in my meeting.  The killer issue seems to be
that the AIR SDK actually contains the AIR runtime for the "captive runtime"
feature.  Legal says they are going to ponder if there are licenses that
still protect not just Adobe, but the closed-source third-party code in the
runtimes, but they are doubtful.  I also have a query out about whether the
runtimes in the AIR SDK are true executables or more like libraries for the
packager, which could give us some wiggle room.

Anyway, I think the answer is going to be that the runtimes can't be
downloaded directly by Maven.

I suppose one could argue that many Maven users don't need the AIR SDK or at
least, the runtimes in the AIR SDK if they aren't building mobile apps with
Maven.  We could take that angle if that's really true and try to get a
subset of the AIR SDK under Maven.

But my research indicates that in general, Maven users download other
proprietary stuff and host it in their own private Maven repos, so the
Mavenizers in Apache could certainly help take downloaded AIR SDKs and
PlayerGlobal and deploy to private Maven repos.

I'll let you know if I hear otherwise.

-- 
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

Re: AW: Latest on Maven (was Re: AW: Promoting Apache Flex)

[Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>]

On 11/14/12 8:24 AM, "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de" <ch...@c-ware.de>
wrote:

> But for maven and flexmojos to work, we don't actually need the runtime
> available ... all we need are "playerglobal.swc" and "airglobal.swc" ...
> that's it.
> Currently Flexmojos uses the flashplayer and adr from the Path but I was
> thinking of extending Flexmojos to automatically download the runtimes when
> generating the FDKs on my own.
> 
> It would be enough just to be able to deploy the playerglobal and airglobal.
> 
> Would this be possible?
> 
That might be more possible, but I don't see how you could build an AIR app
for Android or IOS with it.  The recommended (essentially required for IOS)
workflow these days is to package the runtime with the SWF.

Also, I think there are more files than just the airglobal.swc required to
build out the final .AIR file for deployment.

Or am I missing something?
-- 
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

AW: Latest on Maven (was Re: AW: Promoting Apache Flex)

["christofer.dutz@c-ware.de" <ch...@c-ware.de>]

But for maven and flexmojos to work, we don't actually need the runtime available ... all we need are "playerglobal.swc" and "airglobal.swc" ... that's it.
Currently Flexmojos uses the flashplayer and adr from the Path but I was thinking of extending Flexmojos to automatically download the runtimes when generating the FDKs on my own.

It would be enough just to be able to deploy the playerglobal and airglobal.

Would this be possible?

Chris

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Von: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. November 2012 17:10
An: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Latest on Maven (was Re: AW: Promoting Apache Flex)




On 11/14/12 2:11 AM, "christofer.dutz@c-ware.de" <ch...@c-ware.de>
wrote:

> 
> There were things, that were really annoying:
> - No Flex FDKs in public Maven repos due to licensing stuff (Even if 
> the player stuff still needs to be referenced ... @Alex ... you 
> mentioned some internal discussions at Adobe about this ... any 
> changes you'd like to share?)
I got a lot of warm fuzzies in my meeting.  The killer issue seems to be that the AIR SDK actually contains the AIR runtime for the "captive runtime"
feature.  Legal says they are going to ponder if there are licenses that still protect not just Adobe, but the closed-source third-party code in the runtimes, but they are doubtful.  I also have a query out about whether the runtimes in the AIR SDK are true executables or more like libraries for the packager, which could give us some wiggle room.

Anyway, I think the answer is going to be that the runtimes can't be downloaded directly by Maven.

I suppose one could argue that many Maven users don't need the AIR SDK or at least, the runtimes in the AIR SDK if they aren't building mobile apps with Maven.  We could take that angle if that's really true and try to get a subset of the AIR SDK under Maven.

But my research indicates that in general, Maven users download other proprietary stuff and host it in their own private Maven repos, so the Mavenizers in Apache could certainly help take downloaded AIR SDKs and PlayerGlobal and deploy to private Maven repos.

I'll let you know if I hear otherwise.

--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui