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Can we remove data-source support?
Are we going to finally remove data-source support for 1.3? If so, I
don't mind going through the code and docs to clean it out.
Related question: if we were to remove data-source support, should we
remove it from the docs immediately? Do the docs reflect the current
state of the code or the latest release? If the former, perhaps our
docs shouldn't be so tied to the website to allow for the docs on the
site to reflect the latest stable release while let developers modify
the docs in the repository concurrently with feature
additions/changes/removals.
Don
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Re: Can we remove data-source support?
Posted by Don Brown <do...@gmail.com>.
Hearing no dissents, I have removed data source support from Struts.
I also removed any documentation related to data sources, although,
the database faq could probably be brought back since it has good
information about database strategies in general.
Don
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 00:06:47 -0800, Craig McClanahan <cr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:51:42 -0800, Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org> wrote:
> > Are we going to finally remove data-source support for 1.3? If so, I
> > don't mind going through the code and docs to clean it out.
>
> +1
>
> At the time this support was created, there wasn't much in terms of
> credible alternatives. Now that every container that matters supports
> JNDI-based data sources (or, of course, the ability to use different
> persistence mechanisms directly) it is time to put this feature out to
> pasture.
>
> Craig
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Re: Can we remove data-source support?
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:51:42 -0800, Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org> wrote:
> Are we going to finally remove data-source support for 1.3? If so, I
> don't mind going through the code and docs to clean it out.
+1
At the time this support was created, there wasn't much in terms of
credible alternatives. Now that every container that matters supports
JNDI-based data sources (or, of course, the ability to use different
persistence mechanisms directly) it is time to put this feature out to
pasture.
Craig
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Re: Can we remove data-source support?
Posted by David Graham <gr...@yahoo.com>.
It's about time! +1
David
--- James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1
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> > At 10:59 AM -0800 2/28/05, Don Brown wrote:
> >>Soo, is that a yes to removing data-source? :)
> >
> > +1 from me.
> >
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Re: Can we remove data-source support?
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
+1
--
James Mitchell
Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
EdgeTech, Inc.
678.910.8017
AIM: jmitchtx
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To: "Don Brown" <do...@gmail.com>; "Struts Developers List"
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Subject: Re: Can we remove data-source support?
> At 10:59 AM -0800 2/28/05, Don Brown wrote:
>>Soo, is that a yes to removing data-source? :)
>
> +1 from me.
>
>
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Re: Can we remove data-source support?
Posted by Joe Germuska <Jo...@Germuska.com>.
At 10:59 AM -0800 2/28/05, Don Brown wrote:
>Soo, is that a yes to removing data-source? :)
+1 from me.
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Re: Can we remove data-source support?
Posted by Don Brown <do...@gmail.com>.
Soo, is that a yes to removing data-source? :)
Don
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:45:08 -0500, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> As long as we release regularly, then I would favor having the website and docs reflect the nightly build.
>
> During the 1.1 death-march, we broke with that tradition briefly, but only because it was taking so long to get to the next stable build.
>
> Having the latest and greatest up on the web makes it much easier to have conversations about where we are and where we are going.
>
> Keeping the stable build on the web, creates a maintenance burden, and having done it, I wouldn't recommend it as the status quo.
>
> -Ted.
>
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:51:42 -0800, Don Brown wrote:
> > Are we going to finally remove data-source support for 1.3? If so,
> > I don't mind going through the code and docs to clean it out.
> >
> > Related question: if we were to remove data-source support, should
> > we remove it from the docs immediately? Do the docs reflect the
> > current state of the code or the latest release? If the former,
> > perhaps our docs shouldn't be so tied to the website to allow for
> > the docs on the site to reflect the latest stable release while let
> > developers modify the docs in the repository concurrently with
> > feature additions/changes/removals.
> >
> > Don
> >
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Re: Can we remove data-source support?
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
As long as we release regularly, then I would favor having the website and docs reflect the nightly build.
During the 1.1 death-march, we broke with that tradition briefly, but only because it was taking so long to get to the next stable build.
Having the latest and greatest up on the web makes it much easier to have conversations about where we are and where we are going.
Keeping the stable build on the web, creates a maintenance burden, and having done it, I wouldn't recommend it as the status quo.
-Ted.
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 15:51:42 -0800, Don Brown wrote:
> Are we going to finally remove data-source support for 1.3? If so,
> I don't mind going through the code and docs to clean it out.
>
> Related question: if we were to remove data-source support, should
> we remove it from the docs immediately? Do the docs reflect the
> current state of the code or the latest release? If the former,
> perhaps our docs shouldn't be so tied to the website to allow for
> the docs on the site to reflect the latest stable release while let
> developers modify the docs in the repository concurrently with
> feature additions/changes/removals.
>
> Don
>
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