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Posted to dev@tomcat.apache.org by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org> on 2002/11/11 12:55:14 UTC
[4.1.15] Tag tomorrow
I plan to tag and package the Tomcat 4.1.15 milestone tomorrow.
Rémy
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Re: [4.1.15] Tag tomorrow
Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
Bill Barker wrote:
> >Glenn Nielsen wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Doesn't this require a vote?
> >
> >
> >No. The vote is when the milestone is then publicly released. Otherwise,
> >it's like a nightly, and allows getting some testing.
>
>
> Better would be to get the nightlies back on line (I don't have an account
> on nagoya, so I can't do it). Amy has already posted a show-stopper for
> 4.1.15, so at the moment, my vote is "Beta".
The admin webapp works fine for me, if that's the showstopper you are
talking about.
Releasing 4.1.15 as beta might be a good idea anyway. There are lots of
changes over 4.1.12.
Remy
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Re: [4.1.15] Tag tomorrow
Posted by Bill Barker <wb...@wilshire.com>.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Remy Maucherat" <re...@apache.org>
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Subject: Re: [4.1.15] Tag tomorrow
> Glenn Nielsen wrote:
>
> > Doesn't this require a vote?
>
>
> No. The vote is when the milestone is then publicly released. Otherwise,
> it's like a nightly, and allows getting some testing.
Better would be to get the nightlies back on line (I don't have an account
on nagoya, so I can't do it). Amy has already posted a show-stopper for
4.1.15, so at the moment, my vote is "Beta".
>
> Rémy
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Re: [4.1.15] Tag tomorrow
Posted by Costin Manolache <cm...@yahoo.com>.
Remy Maucherat wrote:
> If you are not happy with the current release process, then you can
> propose a change to it and get it voted.
> I have the feeling that nobody is happy with my contributions these
> days, for reasons that elude me. If people want me to stop RMing Tomcat,
> I can step down.
I am happy with the current release process. And _very_ happy with your
contributions.
As you know, everyone has (strong) opinions and few have diplomacy -
so it may just look otherwise :-)
Costin
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Re: [4.1.15] Tag tomorrow
Posted by "Craig R. McClanahan" <cr...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Remy Maucherat wrote:
> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 17:01:49 +0100
> From: Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>
> Reply-To: Tomcat Developers List <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> To: Tomcat Developers List <to...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [4.1.15] Tag tomorrow
>
> Glenn Nielsen wrote:
>
> > Remy,
> >
> > I went back and reviewed the discussion about the new version numbering.
> > And reviewed http://httpd.apache.org/dev/release.html which it is
> > patterned
> > after.
> >
> > You are correct, under the httpd release plan there is no vote to tag
> > and build.
> > I was confused between the old release rules and the new. My mistake. :-)
> > And the release manager has a great deal of latitude in when they do a
> > release
> > and what is in it.
> >
> > I looked back at the email announcements when you have tagged and built
> > a new
> > release for testing and noticed that you are calling them a test
> > milestone.
> >
> > Under the httpd release rules and what we voted on there is no such
> > thing as
> > a test milestone. When a release is done it is called Alpha until a vote
> > has been done to upgrade it to Beta or General Availability (stable).
>
>
> I wasn't aware of all the fine print. The difference is a bit academical
> in terms of how-stable-is-the-release, but it makes more sense (rather
> than moving and renaming releases as I have been doing). I don't like
> "General Availability" too much, so I chose to qualify stable releases
> as "Stable".
>
Not moving/renaming them will also get Pier off your back about the impact
this has on rsyncs to folks who mirror the Apache web sites :-).
> Remy
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Re: [4.1.15] Tag tomorrow
Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
Glenn Nielsen wrote:
> Remy,
>
> I went back and reviewed the discussion about the new version numbering.
> And reviewed http://httpd.apache.org/dev/release.html which it is
> patterned
> after.
>
> You are correct, under the httpd release plan there is no vote to tag
> and build.
> I was confused between the old release rules and the new. My mistake. :-)
> And the release manager has a great deal of latitude in when they do a
> release
> and what is in it.
>
> I looked back at the email announcements when you have tagged and built
> a new
> release for testing and noticed that you are calling them a test
> milestone.
>
> Under the httpd release rules and what we voted on there is no such
> thing as
> a test milestone. When a release is done it is called Alpha until a vote
> has been done to upgrade it to Beta or General Availability (stable).
I wasn't aware of all the fine print. The difference is a bit academical
in terms of how-stable-is-the-release, but it makes more sense (rather
than moving and renaming releases as I have been doing). I don't like
"General Availability" too much, so I chose to qualify stable releases
as "Stable".
Remy
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Re: [4.1.15] Tag tomorrow
Posted by Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net>.
Remy,
I went back and reviewed the discussion about the new version numbering.
And reviewed http://httpd.apache.org/dev/release.html which it is patterned
after.
You are correct, under the httpd release plan there is no vote to tag and build.
I was confused between the old release rules and the new. My mistake. :-)
And the release manager has a great deal of latitude in when they do a release
and what is in it.
I looked back at the email announcements when you have tagged and built a new
release for testing and noticed that you are calling them a test milestone.
Under the httpd release rules and what we voted on there is no such thing as
a test milestone. When a release is done it is called Alpha until a vote
has been done to upgrade it to Beta or General Availability (stable).
Regards,
Glenn
Remy Maucherat wrote:
> Glenn Nielsen wrote:
>
>> Remy Maucherat wrote:
>>
>> > Glenn Nielsen wrote:
>> >
>> >> Doesn't this require a vote?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > No. The vote is when the milestone is then publicly released.
>> > Otherwise, it's like a nightly, and allows getting some testing.
>> >
>>
>>
>> A nightly does not get announced publicly with a revision number.
>>
>> The previous 4.1.13 and 4.1.14 milestone releases you did were done and
>> announced to the public without a vote.
>
>
>
> I announced that a new test milestone was up and available for testing
> (reread the announcements, which only got sent to tc-user and tc-dev).
>
>>
>> IMO, bumping the revision number and announcing to the public a release
>> (no matter what name is given to it) requires a vote.
>
>
>
> This release process got voted and unanimously approved before the 4.1.x
> releases started.
>
>>
>> Perhaps it would be better to get the nightly builds working again so
>> changes
>> can be tested by those interested in them by downloading the nightly.
>
>
>
> If you are not happy with the current release process, then you can
> propose a change to it and get it voted.
> I have the feeling that nobody is happy with my contributions these
> days, for reasons that elude me. If people want me to stop RMing Tomcat,
> I can step down.
>
> Remy
>
>
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Re: [4.1.15] Tag tomorrow
Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
Glenn Nielsen wrote:
> Remy Maucherat wrote:
>
> > Glenn Nielsen wrote:
> >
> >> Doesn't this require a vote?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > No. The vote is when the milestone is then publicly released.
> > Otherwise, it's like a nightly, and allows getting some testing.
> >
>
>
> A nightly does not get announced publicly with a revision number.
>
> The previous 4.1.13 and 4.1.14 milestone releases you did were done and
> announced to the public without a vote.
I announced that a new test milestone was up and available for testing
(reread the announcements, which only got sent to tc-user and tc-dev).
>
> IMO, bumping the revision number and announcing to the public a release
> (no matter what name is given to it) requires a vote.
This release process got voted and unanimously approved before the 4.1.x
releases started.
>
> Perhaps it would be better to get the nightly builds working again so
> changes
> can be tested by those interested in them by downloading the nightly.
If you are not happy with the current release process, then you can
propose a change to it and get it voted.
I have the feeling that nobody is happy with my contributions these
days, for reasons that elude me. If people want me to stop RMing Tomcat,
I can step down.
Remy
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Re: [4.1.15] Tag tomorrow
Posted by Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net>.
Remy Maucherat wrote:
> Glenn Nielsen wrote:
>
>> Doesn't this require a vote?
>
>
>
> No. The vote is when the milestone is then publicly released. Otherwise,
> it's like a nightly, and allows getting some testing.
>
A nightly does not get announced publicly with a revision number.
The previous 4.1.13 and 4.1.14 milestone releases you did were done and
announced to the public without a vote.
IMO, bumping the revision number and announcing to the public a release
(no matter what name is given to it) requires a vote.
Perhaps it would be better to get the nightly builds working again so changes
can be tested by those interested in them by downloading the nightly.
Regards,
Glenn
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Re: [4.1.15] Tag tomorrow
Posted by Remy Maucherat <re...@apache.org>.
Glenn Nielsen wrote:
> Doesn't this require a vote?
No. The vote is when the milestone is then publicly released. Otherwise,
it's like a nightly, and allows getting some testing.
Rémy
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Re: [4.1.15] Tag tomorrow
Posted by Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net>.
Doesn't this require a vote?
Glenn
Remy Maucherat wrote:
> I plan to tag and package the Tomcat 4.1.15 milestone tomorrow.
>
> Rémy
>
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Re: [4.1.15] Tag tomorrow
Posted by Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net>.
There is a nastly little bug that crept into the manager context reload in the last
month or two.
If you do a manager reload of a context any JNDI named ressources that exist disappear.
This breaks use of the manager to reload a context which uses named resources.
I haven't found when/where this got broken yet. But it should probably be fixed
before the next release. I filed a bugzilla report on this.
Regards,
Glenn
Remy Maucherat wrote:
> I plan to tag and package the Tomcat 4.1.15 milestone tomorrow.
>
> Rémy
>
>
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