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Posted to dev@myfaces.apache.org by Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com> on 2005/03/10 18:30:01 UTC
Re: 1.09 and incubator status
MyFaces is officially a top level project now, moving out of the
incubator is just a technical issue anymore!
The next release is being prepared right now (Matthias is working on
this, I think)...
regards,
Martin
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:31:49 -0500, Kito D. Mann <km...@virtua.com> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Can someone tell me when 1.08 or 1.09 will be released, and when MyFaces
> may move out of the incubator? I'm sensing skepticism from customers
> because of the lack of a recent release, and the incubator status...
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Kito D. Mann
> Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
> http://www.JSFCentral.com - JSF FAQ, news, and info
>
> Are you using JSF in a project? Send an e-mail to trenches@jsfcentral.com
> and you could win a free copy of JavaServer Faces in Action!
>
>
Re: 1.09 and incubator status
Posted by "Kito D. Mann" <km...@virtua.com>.
At 01:13 PM 3/10/2005, you wrote:
>Kito-
>
> > Also, are there any plans for the TCK?
>
>
>we asked the board of the ASF about the TCK.
>The board requested for the JSR#127 TCK. But
>I guess that will take again some time :-(
>
>So ne detailed plan or a specific date regarding
>be *certified* JSF impl.
Ok. Thanks.
>HTH,
>Matthias
>
>
>>
>>>On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:31:49 -0500, Kito D. Mann <km...@virtua.com> wrote:
>>> > Hey,
>>> >
>>> > Can someone tell me when 1.08 or 1.09 will be released, and when MyFaces
>>> > may move out of the incubator? I'm sensing skepticism from customers
>>> > because of the lack of a recent release, and the incubator status...
>>> >
>>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> > Kito D. Mann
>>> > Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
>>> > http://www.JSFCentral.com - JSF FAQ, news, and info
>>> >
>>> > Are you using JSF in a project? Send an e-mail to trenches@jsfcentral.com
>>> > and you could win a free copy of JavaServer Faces in Action!
>>> >
>>> >
>>
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>Kito D. Mann (kmann@virtua.com)
>>Virtua, Inc. (phone: 203-323-1244 fax: 203-323-2363)
>>Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
>>(<http://www.manning.com/mann/index.html>http://www.manning.com/mann/index.html)
>>
>>http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
>>"Existence doesn't necessarily mean living..."
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Kito D. Mann (kmann@virtua.com)
>Virtua, Inc. (phone: 203-323-1244 fax: 203-323-2363)
>Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
>(<http://www.manning.com/mann/index.html>http://www.manning.com/mann/index.html)
>http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
>
>"Existence doesn't necessarily mean living..."
Re: 1.09 and incubator status
Posted by Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com>.
Well if the ultimate plan is to have only one tree then it makes it
harder on more users to release with two trees (unless we are going to
keep tree2 with the name tree2.) Otherwise tree2 users have to change
their tags, etc. to tree and the tree1 users need to make the
interface changes.
What about a change in the current tree tag name to treeLegacy and
marking the component as deprecated? So current users can change
their tags to <x:treeLegacy>. That way we can use <x:tree> for the
newer tree and avoid the long run confusion of what the heck is tree2?
What happened to tree1? etc.
sean
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:34:43 +0100, Matthias Wessendorf
<ma...@matthias-wessendorf.de> wrote:
> Sean-
>
> I think on long term you are right! One tree is better
> than two. But for next release why not ship two trees?
>
> There are still users that use the tree1 from Oliver and
> I think a "hard" cut will not be the best. So they could
> only change their JARs but must not touch their JSPs, which
> is for me a plus.
>
> On long term the best tree survived ;)
> (or a mix of both :-))
>
> I haven't tryed tree1 yet and also I didn't follow
> the discussion about tree1 and tree2.
>
> I only played with tree2 and I found that very usefull,
> but I am +1 on holding tree1 in sources of MyFaces.
>
> -Matthias
>
> Sean Schofield wrote:
> > Regarding the next release. I suggest that we resolve any outstanding
> > tree2 issues so we can officially rename to tree and drop the current
> > one. Its been several days since I responded to Oliver's issues but I
> > haven't heard anything back yet.
> >
> > I *really* think we should try to avoid having two tree components.
> > As Manfred has urged, I am working to resolve any outstanding issues.
> > As far as I am aware there are no features missing from tree2 now.
> > There is just minor interface differences.
> >
> > Over the next day or so I will get treeTable into shape (which depends
> > on tree.) That should be the last obstacle to releasing the new tree
> > and removing the old.
> >
> > sean
> >
>
Re: 1.09 and incubator status
Posted by Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com>.
Regarding the next release. I suggest that we resolve any outstanding
tree2 issues so we can officially rename to tree and drop the current
one. Its been several days since I responded to Oliver's issues but I
haven't heard anything back yet.
I *really* think we should try to avoid having two tree components.
As Manfred has urged, I am working to resolve any outstanding issues.
As far as I am aware there are no features missing from tree2 now.
There is just minor interface differences.
Over the next day or so I will get treeTable into shape (which depends
on tree.) That should be the last obstacle to releasing the new tree
and removing the old.
sean
Re: 1.09 and incubator status
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@matthias-wessendorf.de>.
Kito-
> Also, are there any plans for the TCK?
we asked the board of the ASF about the TCK.
The board requested for the JSR#127 TCK. But
I guess that will take again some time :-(
So ne detailed plan or a specific date regarding
be *certified* JSF impl.
HTH,
Matthias
>
>
>> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:31:49 -0500, Kito D. Mann <km...@virtua.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hey,
>> >
>> > Can someone tell me when 1.08 or 1.09 will be released, and when
>> MyFaces
>> > may move out of the incubator? I'm sensing skepticism from customers
>> > because of the lack of a recent release, and the incubator status...
>> >
>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> > Kito D. Mann
>> > Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
>> > http://www.JSFCentral.com - JSF FAQ, news, and info
>> >
>> > Are you using JSF in a project? Send an e-mail to
>> trenches@jsfcentral.com
>> > and you could win a free copy of JavaServer Faces in Action!
>> >
>> >
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Kito D. Mann (kmann@virtua.com)
> Virtua, Inc. (phone: 203-323-1244 fax: 203-323-2363)
> Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
> (<http://www.manning.com/mann/index.html>http://www.manning.com/mann/index.html)
>
> http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
>
> "Existence doesn't necessarily mean living..."
Re: 1.09 and incubator status
Posted by "Kito D. Mann" <km...@virtua.com>.
At 12:30 PM 3/10/2005, you wrote:
>MyFaces is officially a top level project now, moving out of the
>incubator is just a technical issue anymore!
That's great to hear, Martin.
>The next release is being prepared right now (Matthias is working on
>this, I think)...
Matthias, can you give me some details?
Also, are there any plans for the TCK?
>On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:31:49 -0500, Kito D. Mann <km...@virtua.com> wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > Can someone tell me when 1.08 or 1.09 will be released, and when MyFaces
> > may move out of the incubator? I'm sensing skepticism from customers
> > because of the lack of a recent release, and the incubator status...
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Kito D. Mann
> > Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
> > http://www.JSFCentral.com - JSF FAQ, news, and info
> >
> > Are you using JSF in a project? Send an e-mail to trenches@jsfcentral.com
> > and you could win a free copy of JavaServer Faces in Action!
> >
> >
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kito D. Mann (kmann@virtua.com)
Virtua, Inc. (phone: 203-323-1244 fax: 203-323-2363)
Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
(<http://www.manning.com/mann/index.html>http://www.manning.com/mann/index.html)
http://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info
"Existence doesn't necessarily mean living..."
Re: 1.09 and incubator status
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@matthias-wessendorf.de>.
Kito-
Martin is right. We are now a top level project of the ASF.
The infrastructure guys are working on things like
mailinglists, DNS entry, and so one.
What we did in December was a vote regarding releasing
MyFaces 1.0.8. There were enough votes from committers
and user.
That version is available right now here:
http://cvs.apache.org/dist/incubator/myfaces/builds/
What happens next is I start rolling the RC for MyFaces 1.0.9
and start again a vote regaring releasing.
That will be the next "official" release since 1.0.7 (sourceforge based
code). It is easier to release as an top level project as an subproject
(MyFaces *was* a subproject of incubator)
Also we are about to convert more and more documents to forrest
(to our Apache homepage)
So after that, hopefully all doubts against MyFaces are obsolete ;)
HTH,
Matthias
Martin Marinschek wrote:
> MyFaces is officially a top level project now, moving out of the
> incubator is just a technical issue anymore!
>
> The next release is being prepared right now (Matthias is working on
> this, I think)...
>
> regards,
>
> Martin
>
>
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:31:49 -0500, Kito D. Mann <km...@virtua.com> wrote:
>
>>Hey,
>>
>>Can someone tell me when 1.08 or 1.09 will be released, and when MyFaces
>>may move out of the incubator? I'm sensing skepticism from customers
>>because of the lack of a recent release, and the incubator status...
>>
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>Kito D. Mann
>>Author, JavaServer Faces in Action
>>http://www.JSFCentral.com - JSF FAQ, news, and info
>>
>>Are you using JSF in a project? Send an e-mail to trenches@jsfcentral.com
>>and you could win a free copy of JavaServer Faces in Action!
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: 1.09 and incubator status
Posted by Hendrik Neumann <he...@web.de>.
a new offical release would be great - thanks to all of you MyFaces guys :-)
Greetings,
Hendrik