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Posted to user@geronimo.apache.org by Jeremy Boynes <jb...@apache.org> on 2005/02/09 18:24:30 UTC

Updating the web-site

We suffer from a failure to keep people informed of progress being made 
in Geronimo. One thing we obviously do not do often enough is update the 
project home page.

I am under the impression that regenerating the site using maven and 
reloading it is a serious PITA. I would like to ask if this is the right 
approach to building the home page? Are we better served by moving more 
to the wiki or by moving the core of the website to static content?

--
Jeremy


Re: Updating the web-site

Posted by Dain Sundstrom <ds...@gluecode.com>.
On Feb 9, 2005, at 12:01 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:

>
> On Feb 9, 2005, at 12:24 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
>
>> We suffer from a failure to keep people informed of progress being 
>> made in Geronimo. One thing we obviously do not do often enough is 
>> update the project home page.
>>
>> I am under the impression that regenerating the site using maven and 
>> reloading it is a serious PITA. I would like to ask if this is the 
>> right approach to building the home page? Are we better served by 
>> moving more to the wiki or by moving the core of the website to 
>> static content?
>
> I'm all for chucking the current practice and just having a static or 
> velocity-generated site...  simple, fast and easy.
>
> (And would prefer to not use Wiki as main site...)

+1 static or velocity

I don't type fast enough.  I made the same comment in response to 
Toby's post.

-dain


Re: Updating the web-site

Posted by Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@4quarters.com>.
On Feb 9, 2005, at 12:24 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:

> We suffer from a failure to keep people informed of progress being 
> made in Geronimo. One thing we obviously do not do often enough is 
> update the project home page.
>
> I am under the impression that regenerating the site using maven and 
> reloading it is a serious PITA. I would like to ask if this is the 
> right approach to building the home page? Are we better served by 
> moving more to the wiki or by moving the core of the website to static 
> content?

I'm all for chucking the current practice and just having a static or 
velocity-generated site...  simple, fast and easy.

(And would prefer to not use Wiki as main site...)

geir

>
> --
> Jeremy
>
>
-- 
Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
geir@gluecode.com


Re: Updating the web-site

Posted by "Preston L. Bannister" <pr...@bannister.us>.
FWIW, I would suggest you put up a weblog, and allow anyone working on 
Geronimo to post, and post anything they think might be of interest to 
folks outside the project.  Plus folks can get updated via an RSS feed!

Based on the end results from all the other sites using Maven, it sure 
looks like Maven is more trouble than it is worth :). 

Heck, why not just use a public weblog site (like, say 
http://apache-geronimo.blogspot.com/ ) if setting up a weblog on the 
Apache site is too much trouble(?).


Jeremy Boynes wrote:

> We suffer from a failure to keep people informed of progress being 
> made in Geronimo. One thing we obviously do not do often enough is 
> update the project home page.
>
> I am under the impression that regenerating the site using maven and 
> reloading it is a serious PITA. I would like to ask if this is the 
> right approach to building the home page? Are we better served by 
> moving more to the wiki or by moving the core of the website to static 
> content?

-- 
Preston L. Bannister
preston@bannister.us <ma...@bannister.us> 
http://bannister.us/preston.bannister/
pbannister on Yahoo Messenger
Phone: 949.588.0872


Re: Mail Archives and EJB3

Posted by David Blevins <db...@gluecode.com>.
On Feb 15, 2005, at 4:36 AM, David J. Green wrote:

> Hello all!
>
> I'm new here so hang with me.    First, I tried to find some 
> information in the mail list archives, and received a Velocity Servlet 
> error when I tried to view the messages by subject, and also when I 
> tried by thread.  Someone might want to look at that, although I know 
> you're all busy.
>    Second, I assume Geronimo's  EJB code is written for the 2.1 spec, 
> but was curious about the plan once the 3.0 spec is release.  Will 
> that be a feature for the future, or will you try to get it up as 
> quickly as you can.    I'm looking forward to dumping my current 
> server program.  Keep up the good work.
> -David
>

Hey David,

OpenEJB (Geronimo's EJB provider) will definitely implement EJB 3.0.  
It will be another two years minimum before that spec is finalized, 
however, so we aren't pushing on that just yet.  Certification is our 
sole focus at the moment.

Regards,
David


Re: Mail Archives and EJB3

Posted by Dain Sundstrom <ds...@gluecode.com>.
On Feb 15, 2005, at 4:36 AM, David J. Green wrote:

> Hello all!
>
> I'm new here so hang with me.    First, I tried to find some 
> information in the mail list archives, and received a Velocity Servlet 
> error when I tried to view the messages by subject, and also when I 
> tried by thread.  Someone might want to look at that, although I know 
> you're all busy.

Its been broken for a while.  :(   I think someone on the Apache 
infrastructure team is working on it now.

>    Second, I assume Geronimo's  EJB code is written for the 2.1 spec, 
> but was curious about the plan once the 3.0 spec is release.  Will 
> that be a feature for the future, or will you try to get it up as 
> quickly as you can.    I'm looking forward to dumping my current 
> server program.  Keep up the good work.

Geronimo uses the EJB implementation from OpenEJB (openejb.org), and it 
is written  to the EJB 2.1 specification.  As for EJB 3.0, it is not 
even at the public draft stage of the JCP process. 
(http://www.jcp.org/en/procedures/jcp2), so I personally don't expect 
to see a final spec for another year or two.  Given the extreme 
political nature of the EJB 3.0 specification and the huge amount 
change in the EJB 3.0 from the 2.1, I expect to see the EJB 3.0 
specification to change a lot as the vendors attempt to implement it.  
We saw this to a lesser degree when CMP 2.0 was first introduced, and 
when the vendors attempted to implement the public draft, found that 
the dependent objects part of the specification simply did not work.

Anyway,  I personally don't plan on starting on EJB 3.0 until the spec 
stabilizes.  I plan on working on features that will make the user 
experience better, such as providing better error messages to users.  
This is an opensource project, so if you or anyone else is interested 
in working on EJB 3.0, please contribute.

-dain

--
Dain Sundstrom
Chief Architect
Gluecode Software
310.536.8355, ext. 26



Mail Archives and EJB3

Posted by "David J. Green" <da...@southernwoodwork.com>.
Hello all!

I'm new here so hang with me. 
    First, I tried to find some information in the mail list archives, 
and received a Velocity Servlet error when I tried to view the messages 
by subject, and also when I tried by thread.  Someone might want to look 
at that, although I know you're all busy.
    Second, I assume Geronimo's  EJB code is written for the 2.1 spec, 
but was curious about the plan once the 3.0 spec is release.  Will that 
be a feature for the future, or will you try to get it up as quickly as 
you can. 
    I'm looking forward to dumping my current server program.  Keep up 
the good work.
-David




Re: Updating the web-site

Posted by Dain Sundstrom <ds...@gluecode.com>.
On Feb 11, 2005, at 11:25 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:

> Doesn't Apache have a free license to use Confluence?

Getting a license for software is normally not an issue. Normally the 
issue is getting infrastructure to agree to run the software.

-dain


Re: Updating the web-site

Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <ad...@toolazydogs.com>.
Doesn't Apache have a free license to use Confluence?

Regards,
Alan

Jeremy Boynes wrote:

> We suffer from a failure to keep people informed of progress being 
> made in Geronimo. One thing we obviously do not do often enough is 
> update the project home page.
>
> I am under the impression that regenerating the site using maven and 
> reloading it is a serious PITA. I would like to ask if this is the 
> right approach to building the home page? Are we better served by 
> moving more to the wiki or by moving the core of the website to static 
> content?
>
> -- 
> Jeremy