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Posted to dev@sis.apache.org by Johann Sorel <jo...@geomatys.com> on 2021/10/01 07:03:27 UTC

Re: Proposal: drop or move French versions of developer guide

Hello,

I think we should keep the french version and place it in a different 
directory.
Perhaps adding a text at the beginning : 'Last update : 01/10/21'

New contributors and volunteers often start with simple tasks. Having 
them translate/update
the tutorials/faq in their own language is a good way to start learning 
SIS and to contribute on the same day.

I'm also for keeping a single link on the main web site, would be like :

------------------------------------------

*Community translations*
/Documentation, FAQ, tutorials translated may not be up to date, refer 
to the English version in case of inconsistency./

- French (FAQ, Tutorials), last update : 01/10/21

------------------------------------------


Johann Sorel


On 01/10/2021 00:16, Bruno Kinoshita wrote:
> Hi Martin,
>
> I agree maintaining two guides, one in English and one in French, is hard
> to maintain. Unless you have a large-ish community, and even then you need
> some volunteers to actively make sure the translations are not out of sync.
>
> +1 to drop it for the developer guide. Not sure what to do with the FAQ and
> other smaller pages if they are translated.
>
> In Jena we have tutorials contributed by users in other languages:
> http://jena.apache.org/tutorials/index.html. Occasionally we see users
> submitting pull requests to update it, so I think smaller pages, that are
> easier to maintain, could be useful for users not too familiar with English?
>
> Thanks
> Bruno
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 05:54, Martin Desruisseaux <
> martin.desruisseaux@geomatys.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello all
>>
>> In the next few days before SIS formal release (if approved), I plan to
>> work on documentation. It would include trying to make the SIS developer
>> guide [1] a little bit more useful. However maintaining both a French
>> and an English is a big effort. The two versions are already
>> de-synchronized, and synchronizing them would take many hours.
>>
>> Consequently I propose to drop the French version of developer guide.
>> The commit message and JIRA task would make possible to extract those
>> files from history if a volunteer appears for maintaining those versions.
>>
>> In addition I propose to remove also the French version of FAQ [2]. It
>> is much less effort to maintain, but still significant.
>>
>> An alternative to removal could be to move all French pages in a new
>> https://sis.apache.org/fr/  directory, remove most of the links from the
>> main web site, and make clear that those pages are unmaintained.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>>       Martin
>>
>> [1]https://sis.staged.apache.org/book/index.html
>> [2]https://sis.staged.apache.org/faq_fr.html
>>
>>
>>

Re: Proposal: drop or move French versions of developer guide

Posted by Martin Desruisseaux <ma...@geomatys.com>.
Hello Bruno and Johann

Thanks. Based on both feedbacks, I will move the French material in a 
single sub-directory, remove the automatic redirection to French 
developer guide when the browser language is French, and apply text as 
suggested by Johann:

> *Community translations*
> /Documentation, FAQ, tutorials translated may not be up to date, refer 
> to the English version in case of inconsistency./
>
> - French (FAQ, Tutorials), last update : 01/10/21


     Martin