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Posted to user@struts.apache.org by Becky Norum <bn...@coe.neu.edu> on 2003/03/06 17:44:06 UTC
[OT] IDE / ERD modeling (Was: Re: struts IDE)
I've stayed quiet on this since I've used IDEs rarely. I stick with
xemacs and vi when necessary. I've been curious how much an IDE like
JDeveloper speeds up the process, once you are familiar with it. I
tried it for a couple of hours once, but found it kind of a pain to
use. Is spending time learning one's way around really worth it?
OTOH, there are times when a typo in my struts-config.xml or web.xml
waste an hour or two my time, and having some sort of validation would
be great.
And _really_ off-topic, what do you folks use for ERD modeling in *nix?
I haven't been able to get DIA or xfig to generate decent looking .eps
for papers, so I.. um.. do them in Windows. Any other (free - we are a
poor academic research center :D) modeling software out there people
use? Or tips on maximizing xfig/DIA?
--
Becky Norum <bn...@coe.neu.edu>
Becky Norum
Database Administrator
Center for Subsurface Sensing and Imaging Systems (CenSSIS)
Northeastern University
http://www.censsis.neu.edu
>
> --- Dejan Krsmanovic <de...@nbj.sv.gov.yu>
> wrote:
> > I have used 9.0.3 for building few struts
> > applications and I can say it
> > saved me a lot of time. They have integrated few
> > wizards for working with
> > config files and support for taglibs (autocomplete
> > etc.). However I have
> > found few bugs (for example when specifying data
> > source configuration in
> > struts-config). Also, there was no support for tiles
> > and validator.
> >
> > These days I saw Oracle has released maintainance
> > version - 9.0.3.1, but I
> > haven't downloaded it yet.
> >
> > Dejan
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Re: [OT] IDE / ERD modeling (Was: Re: struts IDE)
Posted by Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org>.
To add to that, I worked on porting a Struts builder application to a
jEdit plugin a while back. The application had some issues I wasn't
comfortable with (unfortunately I don't remember what they were :)), so
I never quite finished it. However, for the adventurous, the plugin is
here:
http://www.twdata.org/rivernorth/
Don
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Rick Reumann wrote:
> On 06 Mar 2003 11:44:06 -0500
> Becky Norum <bn...@coe.neu.edu> wrote:
>
> > I've stayed quiet on this since I've used IDEs rarely.
>
> jEdit http://www.jedit.org
>
> It will do all you need and you choose the plugins you want. Want the
> XML validation - just download the XMl plugin, etc. It's the most
> customizable editor/IDE out there (at least that I've found).
>
>
>
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Re: [OT] IDE / ERD modeling (Was: Re: struts IDE)
Posted by Rick Reumann <ma...@reumann.net>.
On 06 Mar 2003 11:44:06 -0500
Becky Norum <bn...@coe.neu.edu> wrote:
> I've stayed quiet on this since I've used IDEs rarely.
jEdit http://www.jedit.org
It will do all you need and you choose the plugins you want. Want the
XML validation - just download the XMl plugin, etc. It's the most
customizable editor/IDE out there (at least that I've found).
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Rick Reumann
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Re: [OT] IDE / ERD modeling (Was: Re: struts IDE)
Posted by Chetan Sahasrabudhe <ch...@wisorindia.soft.net>.
Simon:
Check the mails sent yday on Struts IDE and integration of struts
console with JDeveloper, it does have validation logic. donno how deep does
it go.
Chetan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Kelly" <ke...@ipe.fzk.de>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] IDE / ERD modeling (Was: Re: struts IDE)
> I was insalling Red Hat 8.0 last night, and am damn sure I saw a modling
> package being installed. I'll have a look through it tonight and mail if
I
> find anything.
>
> Cheers
>
> Simon
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Becky Norum" <bn...@coe.neu.edu>
> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 5:44 PM
> Subject: [OT] IDE / ERD modeling (Was: Re: struts IDE)
>
>
> > I've stayed quiet on this since I've used IDEs rarely. I stick with
> > xemacs and vi when necessary. I've been curious how much an IDE like
> > JDeveloper speeds up the process, once you are familiar with it. I
> > tried it for a couple of hours once, but found it kind of a pain to
> > use. Is spending time learning one's way around really worth it?
> >
> > OTOH, there are times when a typo in my struts-config.xml or web.xml
> > waste an hour or two my time, and having some sort of validation would
> > be great.
> >
> > And _really_ off-topic, what do you folks use for ERD modeling in *nix?
> > I haven't been able to get DIA or xfig to generate decent looking .eps
> > for papers, so I.. um.. do them in Windows. Any other (free - we are a
> > poor academic research center :D) modeling software out there people
> > use? Or tips on maximizing xfig/DIA?
> >
> > --
> > Becky Norum <bn...@coe.neu.edu>
> > Becky Norum
> > Database Administrator
> > Center for Subsurface Sensing and Imaging Systems (CenSSIS)
> > Northeastern University
> > http://www.censsis.neu.edu
> > >
> > > --- Dejan Krsmanovic <de...@nbj.sv.gov.yu>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I have used 9.0.3 for building few struts
> > > > applications and I can say it
> > > > saved me a lot of time. They have integrated few
> > > > wizards for working with
> > > > config files and support for taglibs (autocomplete
> > > > etc.). However I have
> > > > found few bugs (for example when specifying data
> > > > source configuration in
> > > > struts-config). Also, there was no support for tiles
> > > > and validator.
> > > >
> > > > These days I saw Oracle has released maintainance
> > > > version - 9.0.3.1, but I
> > > > haven't downloaded it yet.
> > > >
> > > > Dejan
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [OT] IDE / ERD modeling (Was: Re: struts IDE)
Posted by Simon Kelly <ke...@ipe.fzk.de>.
I was insalling Red Hat 8.0 last night, and am damn sure I saw a modling
package being installed. I'll have a look through it tonight and mail if I
find anything.
Cheers
Simon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Becky Norum" <bn...@coe.neu.edu>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 5:44 PM
Subject: [OT] IDE / ERD modeling (Was: Re: struts IDE)
> I've stayed quiet on this since I've used IDEs rarely. I stick with
> xemacs and vi when necessary. I've been curious how much an IDE like
> JDeveloper speeds up the process, once you are familiar with it. I
> tried it for a couple of hours once, but found it kind of a pain to
> use. Is spending time learning one's way around really worth it?
>
> OTOH, there are times when a typo in my struts-config.xml or web.xml
> waste an hour or two my time, and having some sort of validation would
> be great.
>
> And _really_ off-topic, what do you folks use for ERD modeling in *nix?
> I haven't been able to get DIA or xfig to generate decent looking .eps
> for papers, so I.. um.. do them in Windows. Any other (free - we are a
> poor academic research center :D) modeling software out there people
> use? Or tips on maximizing xfig/DIA?
>
> --
> Becky Norum <bn...@coe.neu.edu>
> Becky Norum
> Database Administrator
> Center for Subsurface Sensing and Imaging Systems (CenSSIS)
> Northeastern University
> http://www.censsis.neu.edu
> >
> > --- Dejan Krsmanovic <de...@nbj.sv.gov.yu>
> > wrote:
> > > I have used 9.0.3 for building few struts
> > > applications and I can say it
> > > saved me a lot of time. They have integrated few
> > > wizards for working with
> > > config files and support for taglibs (autocomplete
> > > etc.). However I have
> > > found few bugs (for example when specifying data
> > > source configuration in
> > > struts-config). Also, there was no support for tiles
> > > and validator.
> > >
> > > These days I saw Oracle has released maintainance
> > > version - 9.0.3.1, but I
> > > haven't downloaded it yet.
> > >
> > > Dejan
>
>
>
>
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Re: [OT] IDE / ERD modeling (Was: Re: struts IDE)
Posted by alexj <al...@freesurf.ch>.
ArgoUML is free and open source .
http://argouml.tigris.org/
--
Alexandre Jaquet
----- Original Message -----
From: "Becky Norum" <bn...@coe.neu.edu>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 5:44 PM
Subject: [OT] IDE / ERD modeling (Was: Re: struts IDE)
> I've stayed quiet on this since I've used IDEs rarely. I stick with
> xemacs and vi when necessary. I've been curious how much an IDE like
> JDeveloper speeds up the process, once you are familiar with it. I
> tried it for a couple of hours once, but found it kind of a pain to
> use. Is spending time learning one's way around really worth it?
>
> OTOH, there are times when a typo in my struts-config.xml or web.xml
> waste an hour or two my time, and having some sort of validation would
> be great.
>
> And _really_ off-topic, what do you folks use for ERD modeling in *nix?
> I haven't been able to get DIA or xfig to generate decent looking .eps
> for papers, so I.. um.. do them in Windows. Any other (free - we are a
> poor academic research center :D) modeling software out there people
> use? Or tips on maximizing xfig/DIA?
>
> --
> Becky Norum <bn...@coe.neu.edu>
> Becky Norum
> Database Administrator
> Center for Subsurface Sensing and Imaging Systems (CenSSIS)
> Northeastern University
> http://www.censsis.neu.edu
> >
> > --- Dejan Krsmanovic <de...@nbj.sv.gov.yu>
> > wrote:
> > > I have used 9.0.3 for building few struts
> > > applications and I can say it
> > > saved me a lot of time. They have integrated few
> > > wizards for working with
> > > config files and support for taglibs (autocomplete
> > > etc.). However I have
> > > found few bugs (for example when specifying data
> > > source configuration in
> > > struts-config). Also, there was no support for tiles
> > > and validator.
> > >
> > > These days I saw Oracle has released maintainance
> > > version - 9.0.3.1, but I
> > > haven't downloaded it yet.
> > >
> > > Dejan
>
>
>
>
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RE: [OT] IDE / ERD modeling (Was: Re: struts IDE)
Posted by Mitchell Morris <mm...@mindspring.com>.
This misses your stated constraints in two big ways: it's for Windows, and
it's nothing remotely close to free but you may be able to get the sales
people to comp you one or reduce the price dramatically since you're an
acccredited university.
That said, I've never had the pleasure of working with a tool for database
modeling that's anywhere near as complete as Computer Associates ERwin (now
called "AllFusion Data Modeler", I think). It does logical/physical
modeling, user-defined domains, subject area diagramming, IDEF1X and Chen
notation, and lots of other useful database modeling stuff. I've been using
it rather strenuously for about two years now and I continue to find new
ways to (1) reduce my efforts and (2) improve my results using the tool. Oh
yeah, and it generates loverly diagrams with color-coding.
That isn't to say it's the greatest thing since "vi", because nothing is,
really. It has some, um, interesting interface quirks, strange ideas about
pathfinding for the relationship lines, and the occasional flaky behavior.
On the balance, though, I can't say good enough about it to people who have
the scratch to purchase it.
+Mitchell
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Becky Norum [mailto:bnorum@coe.neu.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:44 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: [OT] IDE / ERD modeling (Was: Re: struts IDE)
>
>
> I've stayed quiet on this since I've used IDEs rarely. I stick with
> xemacs and vi when necessary. I've been curious how much an IDE like
> JDeveloper speeds up the process, once you are familiar with it. I
> tried it for a couple of hours once, but found it kind of a pain to
> use. Is spending time learning one's way around really worth it?
>
> OTOH, there are times when a typo in my struts-config.xml or web.xml
> waste an hour or two my time, and having some sort of validation would
> be great.
>
> And _really_ off-topic, what do you folks use for ERD
> modeling in *nix?
> I haven't been able to get DIA or xfig to generate decent looking .eps
> for papers, so I.. um.. do them in Windows. Any other (free
> - we are a
> poor academic research center :D) modeling software out there people
> use? Or tips on maximizing xfig/DIA?
>
> --
> Becky Norum <bn...@coe.neu.edu>
> Becky Norum
> Database Administrator
> Center for Subsurface Sensing and Imaging Systems (CenSSIS)
> Northeastern University
> http://www.censsis.neu.edu
> >
> > --- Dejan Krsmanovic <de...@nbj.sv.gov.yu>
> > wrote:
> > > I have used 9.0.3 for building few struts
> > > applications and I can say it
> > > saved me a lot of time. They have integrated few
> > > wizards for working with
> > > config files and support for taglibs (autocomplete
> > > etc.). However I have
> > > found few bugs (for example when specifying data
> > > source configuration in
> > > struts-config). Also, there was no support for tiles
> > > and validator.
> > >
> > > These days I saw Oracle has released maintainance
> > > version - 9.0.3.1, but I
> > > haven't downloaded it yet.
> > >
> > > Dejan
>
>
>
>
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