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Website [WAS Re: Wiki]
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Johan Oskarsson <jo...@oskarsson.nu>wrote:
> Ok, I understand.
>
> On the topic of website I have suggested and created a basic Forrest
> generated site here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2
>
Nice!
> No response from any of the committers on the jira or on the lists yet
> though.
>
I believe they weren't subscribed yet :) So what do other folks think about
the website and using Forrest at least to get started?
Cheers,
Matthieu
>
> /Johan
>
> Matthieu Riou wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Johan Oskarsson <johan@oskarsson.nu
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Out of curiosity is there a reason to use a wiki without public edit
> >> access? Apache Hadoop, for example, have had one that is editable by
> >> anyone and they have not had any problems afaik. On the contrary I
> >> believe a lot of useful updates wouldn't happen with a wiki restricted
> >> to committers only.
> >>
> >
> > I've started this way just because I don't know how the wiki is going to
> be
> > used by the project yet.
> >
> > Some projects use the Confluence wiki as their website and even bundle it
> as
> > part of their distribution. In that context, only committers should be
> able
> > to contribute. I don't think it's the case for Hadoop, they have a
> separate
> > Forrest-generated website.
> >
> > So depending on how the wiki is going to be used and how the Apache
> > Casssandra website will be built, we can decide to have it work either
> way.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Matthieu
> >
> >
> >> /Johan
> >>
> >> Matthieu Riou wrote:
> >>> Hi guys,
> >>>
> >>> I've just created a new Confluence space for Cassandra, Avinash's
> >> planning
> >>> to use it and most projects find it handy anyway. If other committers
> >> want
> >>> edit access to it, please send me your Confluence user name. If you
> don't
> >>> have one yet, just register there:
> >>>
> >>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Matthieu
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>
Re: Website [WAS Re: Wiki]
Posted by Jonathan Ellis <jb...@gmail.com>.
Thanks!
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I didn't forget :)
>
> Now anybody logged in Confluence can create and edit pages. Have fun!
>
> Matthieu
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Avinash Lakshman <
> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Please do. I will catch you on chat if you forget :).
>>
>> Avinash
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>> > So let's put it this way: anybody fundamentally against using Forrest
>>> for
>>> > the website and opening up Confluence to the whole community (as long as
>>> you
>>> > signup) as the standard wiki?
>>> >
>>>
>>> If nobody yells by Wednesday, I'll go ahead and open up Confluence. Feel
>>> free to remind me if I forget :)
>>>
>>> Matthieu
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Matthieu
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Avinash Lakshman <
>>> > avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I had started putting together something on the Confluence WIKI. Not
>>> sure
>>> >> how it fits together on the big scheme of things.
>>> >> Avinash
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Johan Oskarsson <jo...@oskarsson.nu>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > We now have a first version of the site running:
>>> >> > http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra
>>> >> >
>>> >> > However, Matthieu commented on the wiki ticket here:
>>> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15
>>> >> > that he wants a decision on the site's future before moving on.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The two options as far as I know:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 1. Store the site and any source material in svn, publish to the
>>> >> > apache.org site. It could be raw html, forrest xml+generated html, a
>>> >> > script that generates html or something similar.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 2. Use a wiki as the site. Confluence?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Personally I prefer option 1, so we can accept website patches from
>>> >> anyone
>>> >> > and leave the wiki as a publicly editable place for everyone to share
>>> >> > information.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I don't care if we use Forrest or not for the site, it was just an
>>> easy
>>> >> way
>>> >> > to get started and a lot of Apache projects use it already. If option
>>> 1
>>> >> is
>>> >> > chosen we can discuss what tool to use later.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > What does everyone think? Should we initiate a vote about it?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > /Johan
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sandeep Tata wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> I think the Forrest site is great to start with. If you check it
>>> into
>>> >> >> the repository, others will be able to contribute patches much like
>>> >> >> code and the burden of building up the website will not fall on just
>>> >> >> the committers.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> A publicly editable wiki might work too, but if only the committers
>>> >> >> have edit permissions -- much of the work for building the site
>>> falls
>>> >> >> on them. We want to quickly get to a point where the committers can
>>> >> >> review patches and guide the community in adding value to the code.
>>> >> >> Not be bogged down in editing websites :)
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Matthieu Riou <
>>> >> matthieu.riou@gmail.com>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
>>> >> >>> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> I guess. Isn't that easier? Is there something else that is the
>>> norm?
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> No norm, just several different options. I personally like when
>>> the
>>> >> >>> source
>>> >> >>> used to generate the site can be checked in the repository but
>>> that's
>>> >> >>> mostly
>>> >> >>> a matter of taste. This for example is generated with Forrest:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> http://ant.apache.org/
>>> >> >>> http://lucene.apache.org/
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> This is generated by a set of Ruby scripts from Textile files:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> http://buildr.apache.org/
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> And this is generated from Confluence using custom templates:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> http://geronimo.apache.org/
>>> >> >>> http://ode.apache.org/
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> FWIW, a Forrest site has already been contributed so that could be
>>> >> used
>>> >> >>> to
>>> >> >>> start with until a sexier option is implemented?
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Matthieu
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Avinash
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Matthieu Riou <
>>> >> >>>> matthieu.riou@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
>>> >> >>>>> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> I just got myself added as an "Author" maybe couple of days ago.
>>> I
>>> >> >>>>>> will
>>> >> >>>>>> start working on it. But there are other things too on my plate.
>>> I
>>> >> >>>>>> will
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> get
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> around to it soon
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> So does that mean that you plan to use the wiki as a website?
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Matthieu
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Avinash
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Sandeep Tata <
>>> >> sandeep.tata@gmail.com
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>> Prashant, Avinash, Jiansheng...
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> Any update on the website?
>>> >> >>>>>>> It has been several weeks since the project got into the
>>> >> incubator,
>>> >> >>>>>>> but we still don't seem to have a website.
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> I think using Johan's Forrest generate site to start with is a
>>> >> good
>>> >> >>>>>>> idea. Are you guys considering anything else? What's holding us
>>> >> up?
>>> >> >>>>>>> Do
>>> >> >>>>>>> you need any help with this?
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> Sandeep
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Matthieu Riou <
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> matthieu.riou@gmail.com
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> johan@oskarsson.nu
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> Ok, I understand.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On the topic of website I have suggested and created a basic
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> Forrest
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> generated site here:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Nice!
>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> No response from any of the committers on the jira or on the
>>> >> lists
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> yet
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> though.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> I believe they weren't subscribed yet :) So what do other
>>> folks
>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> think
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> about
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> the website and using Forrest at least to get started?
>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>> >> >>>>>>>> Matthieu
>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> /Johan
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> johan@oskarsson.nu
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Out of curiosity is there a reason to use a wiki without
>>> >> public
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> edit
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> access? Apache Hadoop, for example, have had one that is
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> editable
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> by
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> anyone and they have not had any problems afaik. On the
>>> contrary
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> believe a lot of useful updates wouldn't happen with a wiki
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> restricted
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> to committers only.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I've started this way just because I don't know how the
>>> wiki
>>> >> is
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> going
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> to
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> be
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> used by the project yet.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Some projects use the Confluence wiki as their website and
>>> even
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> bundle
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> it
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> as
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> part of their distribution. In that context, only committers
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> should
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> be
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> able
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> to contribute. I don't think it's the case for Hadoop, they
>>> >> have
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> a
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> separate
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Forrest-generated website.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> So depending on how the wiki is going to be used and how the
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Apache
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> Casssandra website will be built, we can decide to have it work
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>> either
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> way.
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Matthieu
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> /Johan
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've just created a new Confluence space for Cassandra,
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Avinash's
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>> planning
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> to use it and most projects find it handy anyway. If other
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> committers
>>> >> >>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>> want
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> edit access to it, please send me your Confluence user
>>> name.
>>> >> If
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> you
>>> >> >>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>> don't
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> have one yet, just register there:
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Website [WAS Re: Wiki]
Posted by Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>.
I didn't forget :)
Now anybody logged in Confluence can create and edit pages. Have fun!
Matthieu
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Avinash Lakshman <
avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please do. I will catch you on chat if you forget :).
>
> Avinash
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > So let's put it this way: anybody fundamentally against using Forrest
>> for
>> > the website and opening up Confluence to the whole community (as long as
>> you
>> > signup) as the standard wiki?
>> >
>>
>> If nobody yells by Wednesday, I'll go ahead and open up Confluence. Feel
>> free to remind me if I forget :)
>>
>> Matthieu
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Matthieu
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Avinash Lakshman <
>> > avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I had started putting together something on the Confluence WIKI. Not
>> sure
>> >> how it fits together on the big scheme of things.
>> >> Avinash
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Johan Oskarsson <jo...@oskarsson.nu>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > We now have a first version of the site running:
>> >> > http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra
>> >> >
>> >> > However, Matthieu commented on the wiki ticket here:
>> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15
>> >> > that he wants a decision on the site's future before moving on.
>> >> >
>> >> > The two options as far as I know:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. Store the site and any source material in svn, publish to the
>> >> > apache.org site. It could be raw html, forrest xml+generated html, a
>> >> > script that generates html or something similar.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2. Use a wiki as the site. Confluence?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Personally I prefer option 1, so we can accept website patches from
>> >> anyone
>> >> > and leave the wiki as a publicly editable place for everyone to share
>> >> > information.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't care if we use Forrest or not for the site, it was just an
>> easy
>> >> way
>> >> > to get started and a lot of Apache projects use it already. If option
>> 1
>> >> is
>> >> > chosen we can discuss what tool to use later.
>> >> >
>> >> > What does everyone think? Should we initiate a vote about it?
>> >> >
>> >> > /Johan
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Sandeep Tata wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I think the Forrest site is great to start with. If you check it
>> into
>> >> >> the repository, others will be able to contribute patches much like
>> >> >> code and the burden of building up the website will not fall on just
>> >> >> the committers.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> A publicly editable wiki might work too, but if only the committers
>> >> >> have edit permissions -- much of the work for building the site
>> falls
>> >> >> on them. We want to quickly get to a point where the committers can
>> >> >> review patches and guide the community in adding value to the code.
>> >> >> Not be bogged down in editing websites :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Matthieu Riou <
>> >> matthieu.riou@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
>> >> >>> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I guess. Isn't that easier? Is there something else that is the
>> norm?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> No norm, just several different options. I personally like when
>> the
>> >> >>> source
>> >> >>> used to generate the site can be checked in the repository but
>> that's
>> >> >>> mostly
>> >> >>> a matter of taste. This for example is generated with Forrest:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> http://ant.apache.org/
>> >> >>> http://lucene.apache.org/
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> This is generated by a set of Ruby scripts from Textile files:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> http://buildr.apache.org/
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> And this is generated from Confluence using custom templates:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> http://geronimo.apache.org/
>> >> >>> http://ode.apache.org/
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> FWIW, a Forrest site has already been contributed so that could be
>> >> used
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> start with until a sexier option is implemented?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Matthieu
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Avinash
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Matthieu Riou <
>> >> >>>> matthieu.riou@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
>> >> >>>>> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> I just got myself added as an "Author" maybe couple of days ago.
>> I
>> >> >>>>>> will
>> >> >>>>>> start working on it. But there are other things too on my plate.
>> I
>> >> >>>>>> will
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>> get
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> around to it soon
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> So does that mean that you plan to use the wiki as a website?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Matthieu
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Avinash
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Sandeep Tata <
>> >> sandeep.tata@gmail.com
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>> Prashant, Avinash, Jiansheng...
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Any update on the website?
>> >> >>>>>>> It has been several weeks since the project got into the
>> >> incubator,
>> >> >>>>>>> but we still don't seem to have a website.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> I think using Johan's Forrest generate site to start with is a
>> >> good
>> >> >>>>>>> idea. Are you guys considering anything else? What's holding us
>> >> up?
>> >> >>>>>>> Do
>> >> >>>>>>> you need any help with this?
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Sandeep
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Matthieu Riou <
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> matthieu.riou@gmail.com
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> johan@oskarsson.nu
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Ok, I understand.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> On the topic of website I have suggested and created a basic
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Forrest
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> generated site here:
>> >> >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Nice!
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> No response from any of the committers on the jira or on the
>> >> lists
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> yet
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> though.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> I believe they weren't subscribed yet :) So what do other
>> folks
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> think
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> about
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> the website and using Forrest at least to get started?
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >> >>>>>>>> Matthieu
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> /Johan
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> johan@oskarsson.nu
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Out of curiosity is there a reason to use a wiki without
>> >> public
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> edit
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> access? Apache Hadoop, for example, have had one that is
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> editable
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> by
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> anyone and they have not had any problems afaik. On the
>> contrary
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> believe a lot of useful updates wouldn't happen with a wiki
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> restricted
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> to committers only.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I've started this way just because I don't know how the
>> wiki
>> >> is
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> going
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> to
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> be
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> used by the project yet.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Some projects use the Confluence wiki as their website and
>> even
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> bundle
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> it
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> as
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> part of their distribution. In that context, only committers
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> should
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> be
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> able
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> to contribute. I don't think it's the case for Hadoop, they
>> >> have
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> a
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> separate
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Forrest-generated website.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> So depending on how the wiki is going to be used and how the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Apache
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Casssandra website will be built, we can decide to have it work
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> either
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> way.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Matthieu
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> /Johan
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've just created a new Confluence space for Cassandra,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Avinash's
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> planning
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> to use it and most projects find it handy anyway. If other
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> committers
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> want
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> edit access to it, please send me your Confluence user
>> name.
>> >> If
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> you
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> don't
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> have one yet, just register there:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Website [WAS Re: Wiki]
Posted by Avinash Lakshman <av...@gmail.com>.
Please do. I will catch you on chat if you forget :).
Avinash
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > So let's put it this way: anybody fundamentally against using Forrest for
> > the website and opening up Confluence to the whole community (as long as
> you
> > signup) as the standard wiki?
> >
>
> If nobody yells by Wednesday, I'll go ahead and open up Confluence. Feel
> free to remind me if I forget :)
>
> Matthieu
>
>
> >
> > Matthieu
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Avinash Lakshman <
> > avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I had started putting together something on the Confluence WIKI. Not
> sure
> >> how it fits together on the big scheme of things.
> >> Avinash
> >>
> >> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Johan Oskarsson <jo...@oskarsson.nu>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > We now have a first version of the site running:
> >> > http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra
> >> >
> >> > However, Matthieu commented on the wiki ticket here:
> >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15
> >> > that he wants a decision on the site's future before moving on.
> >> >
> >> > The two options as far as I know:
> >> >
> >> > 1. Store the site and any source material in svn, publish to the
> >> > apache.org site. It could be raw html, forrest xml+generated html, a
> >> > script that generates html or something similar.
> >> >
> >> > 2. Use a wiki as the site. Confluence?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Personally I prefer option 1, so we can accept website patches from
> >> anyone
> >> > and leave the wiki as a publicly editable place for everyone to share
> >> > information.
> >> >
> >> > I don't care if we use Forrest or not for the site, it was just an
> easy
> >> way
> >> > to get started and a lot of Apache projects use it already. If option
> 1
> >> is
> >> > chosen we can discuss what tool to use later.
> >> >
> >> > What does everyone think? Should we initiate a vote about it?
> >> >
> >> > /Johan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Sandeep Tata wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I think the Forrest site is great to start with. If you check it into
> >> >> the repository, others will be able to contribute patches much like
> >> >> code and the burden of building up the website will not fall on just
> >> >> the committers.
> >> >>
> >> >> A publicly editable wiki might work too, but if only the committers
> >> >> have edit permissions -- much of the work for building the site falls
> >> >> on them. We want to quickly get to a point where the committers can
> >> >> review patches and guide the community in adding value to the code.
> >> >> Not be bogged down in editing websites :)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Matthieu Riou <
> >> matthieu.riou@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
> >> >>> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I guess. Isn't that easier? Is there something else that is the
> norm?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> No norm, just several different options. I personally like when
> the
> >> >>> source
> >> >>> used to generate the site can be checked in the repository but
> that's
> >> >>> mostly
> >> >>> a matter of taste. This for example is generated with Forrest:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://ant.apache.org/
> >> >>> http://lucene.apache.org/
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This is generated by a set of Ruby scripts from Textile files:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://buildr.apache.org/
> >> >>>
> >> >>> And this is generated from Confluence using custom templates:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://geronimo.apache.org/
> >> >>> http://ode.apache.org/
> >> >>>
> >> >>> FWIW, a Forrest site has already been contributed so that could be
> >> used
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> start with until a sexier option is implemented?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Matthieu
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Avinash
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Matthieu Riou <
> >> >>>> matthieu.riou@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
> >> >>>>> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I just got myself added as an "Author" maybe couple of days ago.
> I
> >> >>>>>> will
> >> >>>>>> start working on it. But there are other things too on my plate.
> I
> >> >>>>>> will
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>> get
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> around to it soon
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> So does that mean that you plan to use the wiki as a website?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Matthieu
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Avinash
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Sandeep Tata <
> >> sandeep.tata@gmail.com
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> Prashant, Avinash, Jiansheng...
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Any update on the website?
> >> >>>>>>> It has been several weeks since the project got into the
> >> incubator,
> >> >>>>>>> but we still don't seem to have a website.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> I think using Johan's Forrest generate site to start with is a
> >> good
> >> >>>>>>> idea. Are you guys considering anything else? What's holding us
> >> up?
> >> >>>>>>> Do
> >> >>>>>>> you need any help with this?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Sandeep
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Matthieu Riou <
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> matthieu.riou@gmail.com
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> johan@oskarsson.nu
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Ok, I understand.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> On the topic of website I have suggested and created a basic
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Forrest
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> generated site here:
> >> >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Nice!
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> No response from any of the committers on the jira or on the
> >> lists
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> yet
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> though.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> I believe they weren't subscribed yet :) So what do other
> folks
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> think
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> about
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> the website and using Forrest at least to get started?
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >> >>>>>>>> Matthieu
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> /Johan
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> johan@oskarsson.nu
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Out of curiosity is there a reason to use a wiki without
> >> public
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> edit
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> access? Apache Hadoop, for example, have had one that is
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> editable
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> by
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> anyone and they have not had any problems afaik. On the contrary
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> I
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> believe a lot of useful updates wouldn't happen with a wiki
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> restricted
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> to committers only.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I've started this way just because I don't know how the
> wiki
> >> is
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> going
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> to
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> be
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> used by the project yet.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Some projects use the Confluence wiki as their website and
> even
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> bundle
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> it
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> as
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> part of their distribution. In that context, only committers
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> should
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> be
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> able
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> to contribute. I don't think it's the case for Hadoop, they
> >> have
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> a
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> separate
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Forrest-generated website.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> So depending on how the wiki is going to be used and how the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Apache
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Casssandra website will be built, we can decide to have it work
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> either
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> way.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Matthieu
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> /Johan
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've just created a new Confluence space for Cassandra,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Avinash's
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> planning
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> to use it and most projects find it handy anyway. If other
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> committers
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> want
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> edit access to it, please send me your Confluence user
> name.
> >> If
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> you
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> don't
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> have one yet, just register there:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: Website [WAS Re: Wiki]
Posted by Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>wrote:
> So let's put it this way: anybody fundamentally against using Forrest for
> the website and opening up Confluence to the whole community (as long as you
> signup) as the standard wiki?
>
If nobody yells by Wednesday, I'll go ahead and open up Confluence. Feel
free to remind me if I forget :)
Matthieu
>
> Matthieu
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Avinash Lakshman <
> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I had started putting together something on the Confluence WIKI. Not sure
>> how it fits together on the big scheme of things.
>> Avinash
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Johan Oskarsson <jo...@oskarsson.nu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > We now have a first version of the site running:
>> > http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra
>> >
>> > However, Matthieu commented on the wiki ticket here:
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15
>> > that he wants a decision on the site's future before moving on.
>> >
>> > The two options as far as I know:
>> >
>> > 1. Store the site and any source material in svn, publish to the
>> > apache.org site. It could be raw html, forrest xml+generated html, a
>> > script that generates html or something similar.
>> >
>> > 2. Use a wiki as the site. Confluence?
>> >
>> >
>> > Personally I prefer option 1, so we can accept website patches from
>> anyone
>> > and leave the wiki as a publicly editable place for everyone to share
>> > information.
>> >
>> > I don't care if we use Forrest or not for the site, it was just an easy
>> way
>> > to get started and a lot of Apache projects use it already. If option 1
>> is
>> > chosen we can discuss what tool to use later.
>> >
>> > What does everyone think? Should we initiate a vote about it?
>> >
>> > /Johan
>> >
>> >
>> > Sandeep Tata wrote:
>> >
>> >> I think the Forrest site is great to start with. If you check it into
>> >> the repository, others will be able to contribute patches much like
>> >> code and the burden of building up the website will not fall on just
>> >> the committers.
>> >>
>> >> A publicly editable wiki might work too, but if only the committers
>> >> have edit permissions -- much of the work for building the site falls
>> >> on them. We want to quickly get to a point where the committers can
>> >> review patches and guide the community in adding value to the code.
>> >> Not be bogged down in editing websites :)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Matthieu Riou <
>> matthieu.riou@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
>> >>> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I guess. Isn't that easier? Is there something else that is the norm?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> No norm, just several different options. I personally like when the
>> >>> source
>> >>> used to generate the site can be checked in the repository but that's
>> >>> mostly
>> >>> a matter of taste. This for example is generated with Forrest:
>> >>>
>> >>> http://ant.apache.org/
>> >>> http://lucene.apache.org/
>> >>>
>> >>> This is generated by a set of Ruby scripts from Textile files:
>> >>>
>> >>> http://buildr.apache.org/
>> >>>
>> >>> And this is generated from Confluence using custom templates:
>> >>>
>> >>> http://geronimo.apache.org/
>> >>> http://ode.apache.org/
>> >>>
>> >>> FWIW, a Forrest site has already been contributed so that could be
>> used
>> >>> to
>> >>> start with until a sexier option is implemented?
>> >>>
>> >>> Matthieu
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Avinash
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Matthieu Riou <
>> >>>> matthieu.riou@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
>> >>>>> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I just got myself added as an "Author" maybe couple of days ago. I
>> >>>>>> will
>> >>>>>> start working on it. But there are other things too on my plate. I
>> >>>>>> will
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> get
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> around to it soon
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> So does that mean that you plan to use the wiki as a website?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Matthieu
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Avinash
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Sandeep Tata <
>> sandeep.tata@gmail.com
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Prashant, Avinash, Jiansheng...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Any update on the website?
>> >>>>>>> It has been several weeks since the project got into the
>> incubator,
>> >>>>>>> but we still don't seem to have a website.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I think using Johan's Forrest generate site to start with is a
>> good
>> >>>>>>> idea. Are you guys considering anything else? What's holding us
>> up?
>> >>>>>>> Do
>> >>>>>>> you need any help with this?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Sandeep
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Matthieu Riou <
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> matthieu.riou@gmail.com
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> johan@oskarsson.nu
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Ok, I understand.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On the topic of website I have suggested and created a basic
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Forrest
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> generated site here:
>> >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Nice!
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> No response from any of the committers on the jira or on the
>> lists
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> yet
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> though.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I believe they weren't subscribed yet :) So what do other folks
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> think
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> about
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> the website and using Forrest at least to get started?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>> Matthieu
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> /Johan
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> johan@oskarsson.nu
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Out of curiosity is there a reason to use a wiki without
>> public
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> edit
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> access? Apache Hadoop, for example, have had one that is
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> editable
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> by
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> anyone and they have not had any problems afaik. On the contrary
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> believe a lot of useful updates wouldn't happen with a wiki
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> restricted
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> to committers only.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've started this way just because I don't know how the wiki
>> is
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> going
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> be
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> used by the project yet.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Some projects use the Confluence wiki as their website and even
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> bundle
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> it
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> as
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> part of their distribution. In that context, only committers
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> should
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> be
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> able
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> to contribute. I don't think it's the case for Hadoop, they
>> have
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> separate
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Forrest-generated website.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> So depending on how the wiki is going to be used and how the
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Apache
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Casssandra website will be built, we can decide to have it work
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> either
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> way.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>>>> Matthieu
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> /Johan
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've just created a new Confluence space for Cassandra,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Avinash's
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> planning
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> to use it and most projects find it handy anyway. If other
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> committers
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> want
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> edit access to it, please send me your Confluence user name.
>> If
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> you
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> don't
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> have one yet, just register there:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Website [WAS Re: Wiki]
Posted by Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>.
So let's put it this way: anybody fundamentally against using Forrest for
the website and opening up Confluence to the whole community (as long as you
signup) as the standard wiki?
Matthieu
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Avinash Lakshman <
avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
> I had started putting together something on the Confluence WIKI. Not sure
> how it fits together on the big scheme of things.
> Avinash
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Johan Oskarsson <jo...@oskarsson.nu>
> wrote:
>
> > We now have a first version of the site running:
> > http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra
> >
> > However, Matthieu commented on the wiki ticket here:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15
> > that he wants a decision on the site's future before moving on.
> >
> > The two options as far as I know:
> >
> > 1. Store the site and any source material in svn, publish to the
> > apache.org site. It could be raw html, forrest xml+generated html, a
> > script that generates html or something similar.
> >
> > 2. Use a wiki as the site. Confluence?
> >
> >
> > Personally I prefer option 1, so we can accept website patches from
> anyone
> > and leave the wiki as a publicly editable place for everyone to share
> > information.
> >
> > I don't care if we use Forrest or not for the site, it was just an easy
> way
> > to get started and a lot of Apache projects use it already. If option 1
> is
> > chosen we can discuss what tool to use later.
> >
> > What does everyone think? Should we initiate a vote about it?
> >
> > /Johan
> >
> >
> > Sandeep Tata wrote:
> >
> >> I think the Forrest site is great to start with. If you check it into
> >> the repository, others will be able to contribute patches much like
> >> code and the burden of building up the website will not fall on just
> >> the committers.
> >>
> >> A publicly editable wiki might work too, but if only the committers
> >> have edit permissions -- much of the work for building the site falls
> >> on them. We want to quickly get to a point where the committers can
> >> review patches and guide the community in adding value to the code.
> >> Not be bogged down in editing websites :)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Matthieu Riou <
> matthieu.riou@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
> >>> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I guess. Isn't that easier? Is there something else that is the norm?
> >>>>
> >>>> No norm, just several different options. I personally like when the
> >>> source
> >>> used to generate the site can be checked in the repository but that's
> >>> mostly
> >>> a matter of taste. This for example is generated with Forrest:
> >>>
> >>> http://ant.apache.org/
> >>> http://lucene.apache.org/
> >>>
> >>> This is generated by a set of Ruby scripts from Textile files:
> >>>
> >>> http://buildr.apache.org/
> >>>
> >>> And this is generated from Confluence using custom templates:
> >>>
> >>> http://geronimo.apache.org/
> >>> http://ode.apache.org/
> >>>
> >>> FWIW, a Forrest site has already been contributed so that could be used
> >>> to
> >>> start with until a sexier option is implemented?
> >>>
> >>> Matthieu
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Avinash
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Matthieu Riou <
> >>>> matthieu.riou@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
> >>>>> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I just got myself added as an "Author" maybe couple of days ago. I
> >>>>>> will
> >>>>>> start working on it. But there are other things too on my plate. I
> >>>>>> will
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> get
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> around to it soon
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So does that mean that you plan to use the wiki as a website?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Matthieu
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Avinash
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Sandeep Tata <
> sandeep.tata@gmail.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Prashant, Avinash, Jiansheng...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Any update on the website?
> >>>>>>> It has been several weeks since the project got into the incubator,
> >>>>>>> but we still don't seem to have a website.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think using Johan's Forrest generate site to start with is a good
> >>>>>>> idea. Are you guys considering anything else? What's holding us up?
> >>>>>>> Do
> >>>>>>> you need any help with this?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sandeep
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Matthieu Riou <
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> matthieu.riou@gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> johan@oskarsson.nu
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ok, I understand.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On the topic of website I have suggested and created a basic
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Forrest
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> generated site here:
> >>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Nice!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> No response from any of the committers on the jira or on the
> lists
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> yet
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> though.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I believe they weren't subscribed yet :) So what do other folks
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> think
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> about
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> the website and using Forrest at least to get started?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>> Matthieu
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> /Johan
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> johan@oskarsson.nu
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Out of curiosity is there a reason to use a wiki without public
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> edit
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> access? Apache Hadoop, for example, have had one that is
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> editable
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> by
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> anyone and they have not had any problems afaik. On the contrary
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> believe a lot of useful updates wouldn't happen with a wiki
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> restricted
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> to committers only.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I've started this way just because I don't know how the wiki
> is
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> going
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> used by the project yet.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Some projects use the Confluence wiki as their website and even
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> bundle
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> part of their distribution. In that context, only committers
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> able
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> to contribute. I don't think it's the case for Hadoop, they have
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> separate
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Forrest-generated website.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So depending on how the wiki is going to be used and how the
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Apache
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Casssandra website will be built, we can decide to have it work
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> either
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> way.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>> Matthieu
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> /Johan
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've just created a new Confluence space for Cassandra,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Avinash's
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> planning
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to use it and most projects find it handy anyway. If other
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> committers
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> want
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> edit access to it, please send me your Confluence user name.
> If
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> have one yet, just register there:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>
> >
>
Re: Website [WAS Re: Wiki]
Posted by Avinash Lakshman <av...@gmail.com>.
I had started putting together something on the Confluence WIKI. Not sure
how it fits together on the big scheme of things.
Avinash
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Johan Oskarsson <jo...@oskarsson.nu> wrote:
> We now have a first version of the site running:
> http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra
>
> However, Matthieu commented on the wiki ticket here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15
> that he wants a decision on the site's future before moving on.
>
> The two options as far as I know:
>
> 1. Store the site and any source material in svn, publish to the
> apache.org site. It could be raw html, forrest xml+generated html, a
> script that generates html or something similar.
>
> 2. Use a wiki as the site. Confluence?
>
>
> Personally I prefer option 1, so we can accept website patches from anyone
> and leave the wiki as a publicly editable place for everyone to share
> information.
>
> I don't care if we use Forrest or not for the site, it was just an easy way
> to get started and a lot of Apache projects use it already. If option 1 is
> chosen we can discuss what tool to use later.
>
> What does everyone think? Should we initiate a vote about it?
>
> /Johan
>
>
> Sandeep Tata wrote:
>
>> I think the Forrest site is great to start with. If you check it into
>> the repository, others will be able to contribute patches much like
>> code and the burden of building up the website will not fall on just
>> the committers.
>>
>> A publicly editable wiki might work too, but if only the committers
>> have edit permissions -- much of the work for building the site falls
>> on them. We want to quickly get to a point where the committers can
>> review patches and guide the community in adding value to the code.
>> Not be bogged down in editing websites :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
>>> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I guess. Isn't that easier? Is there something else that is the norm?
>>>>
>>>> No norm, just several different options. I personally like when the
>>> source
>>> used to generate the site can be checked in the repository but that's
>>> mostly
>>> a matter of taste. This for example is generated with Forrest:
>>>
>>> http://ant.apache.org/
>>> http://lucene.apache.org/
>>>
>>> This is generated by a set of Ruby scripts from Textile files:
>>>
>>> http://buildr.apache.org/
>>>
>>> And this is generated from Confluence using custom templates:
>>>
>>> http://geronimo.apache.org/
>>> http://ode.apache.org/
>>>
>>> FWIW, a Forrest site has already been contributed so that could be used
>>> to
>>> start with until a sexier option is implemented?
>>>
>>> Matthieu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Avinash
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Matthieu Riou <
>>>> matthieu.riou@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
>>>>> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I just got myself added as an "Author" maybe couple of days ago. I
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> start working on it. But there are other things too on my plate. I
>>>>>> will
>>>>>>
>>>>> get
>>>>>
>>>>>> around to it soon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So does that mean that you plan to use the wiki as a website?
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthieu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Avinash
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Sandeep Tata <sandeep.tata@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Prashant, Avinash, Jiansheng...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any update on the website?
>>>>>>> It has been several weeks since the project got into the incubator,
>>>>>>> but we still don't seem to have a website.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think using Johan's Forrest generate site to start with is a good
>>>>>>> idea. Are you guys considering anything else? What's holding us up?
>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>> you need any help with this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sandeep
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Matthieu Riou <
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> matthieu.riou@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> johan@oskarsson.nu
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok, I understand.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On the topic of website I have suggested and created a basic
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Forrest
>>>>>
>>>>>> generated site here:
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nice!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No response from any of the committers on the jira or on the lists
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>
>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I believe they weren't subscribed yet :) So what do other folks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>
>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the website and using Forrest at least to get started?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Matthieu
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /Johan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> johan@oskarsson.nu
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Out of curiosity is there a reason to use a wiki without public
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> edit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> access? Apache Hadoop, for example, have had one that is
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> editable
>>>>>
>>>>>> by
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> anyone and they have not had any problems afaik. On the contrary
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>>> believe a lot of useful updates wouldn't happen with a wiki
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> restricted
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to committers only.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've started this way just because I don't know how the wiki is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> used by the project yet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Some projects use the Confluence wiki as their website and even
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bundle
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> part of their distribution. In that context, only committers
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to contribute. I don't think it's the case for Hadoop, they have
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>>> separate
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Forrest-generated website.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So depending on how the wiki is going to be used and how the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>
>>>>>> Casssandra website will be built, we can decide to have it work
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> /Johan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just created a new Confluence space for Cassandra,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Avinash's
>>>>>
>>>>>> planning
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> to use it and most projects find it handy anyway. If other
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> committers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> edit access to it, please send me your Confluence user name. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> have one yet, just register there:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>
Re: Website [WAS Re: Wiki]
Posted by Jonathan ellis <jb...@gmail.com>.
+1 patchable site.
But IMO the more we leave publicly editable in the wiki the better.
-Jonathan
On Mar 29, 2009, at 5:03 PM, Johan Oskarsson <jo...@oskarsson.nu> wrote:
> We now have a first version of the site running: http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra
>
> However, Matthieu commented on the wiki ticket here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15
> that he wants a decision on the site's future before moving on.
>
> The two options as far as I know:
>
> 1. Store the site and any source material in svn, publish to the
> apache.org site. It could be raw html, forrest xml+generated html, a
> script that generates html or something similar.
>
> 2. Use a wiki as the site. Confluence?
>
>
> Personally I prefer option 1, so we can accept website patches from
> anyone and leave the wiki as a publicly editable place for everyone
> to share information.
>
> I don't care if we use Forrest or not for the site, it was just an
> easy way to get started and a lot of Apache projects use it already.
> If option 1 is chosen we can discuss what tool to use later.
>
> What does everyone think? Should we initiate a vote about it?
>
> /Johan
>
> Sandeep Tata wrote:
>> I think the Forrest site is great to start with. If you check it into
>> the repository, others will be able to contribute patches much like
>> code and the burden of building up the website will not fall on just
>> the committers.
>> A publicly editable wiki might work too, but if only the committers
>> have edit permissions -- much of the work for building the site falls
>> on them. We want to quickly get to a point where the committers can
>> review patches and guide the community in adding value to the code.
>> Not be bogged down in editing websites :)
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
>>> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I guess. Isn't that easier? Is there something else that is the
>>>> norm?
>>>>
>>> No norm, just several different options. I personally like when
>>> the source
>>> used to generate the site can be checked in the repository but
>>> that's mostly
>>> a matter of taste. This for example is generated with Forrest:
>>>
>>> http://ant.apache.org/
>>> http://lucene.apache.org/
>>>
>>> This is generated by a set of Ruby scripts from Textile files:
>>>
>>> http://buildr.apache.org/
>>>
>>> And this is generated from Confluence using custom templates:
>>>
>>> http://geronimo.apache.org/
>>> http://ode.apache.org/
>>>
>>> FWIW, a Forrest site has already been contributed so that could be
>>> used to
>>> start with until a sexier option is implemented?
>>>
>>> Matthieu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Avinash
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com
>>>> >wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
>>>>> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just got myself added as an "Author" maybe couple of days
>>>>>> ago. I will
>>>>>> start working on it. But there are other things too on my
>>>>>> plate. I will
>>>>> get
>>>>>> around to it soon
>>>>>>
>>>>> So does that mean that you plan to use the wiki as a website?
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthieu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Avinash
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Sandeep Tata <sandeep.tata@gmail.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Prashant, Avinash, Jiansheng...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any update on the website?
>>>>>>> It has been several weeks since the project got into the
>>>>>>> incubator,
>>>>>>> but we still don't seem to have a website.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think using Johan's Forrest generate site to start with is a
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>> idea. Are you guys considering anything else? What's holding
>>>>>>> us up? Do
>>>>>>> you need any help with this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sandeep
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Matthieu Riou <
>>>>> matthieu.riou@gmail.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
>>>>> johan@oskarsson.nu
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok, I understand.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On the topic of website I have suggested and created a basic
>>>>> Forrest
>>>>>>>>> generated site here:
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nice!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No response from any of the committers on the jira or on the
>>>>>>>>> lists
>>>>> yet
>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I believe they weren't subscribed yet :) So what do other folks
>>>>> think
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> the website and using Forrest at least to get started?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Matthieu
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> /Johan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
>>>>>> johan@oskarsson.nu
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Out of curiosity is there a reason to use a wiki without
>>>>>>>>>>> public
>>>>>> edit
>>>>>>>>>>> access? Apache Hadoop, for example, have had one that is
>>>>> editable
>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>> anyone and they have not had any problems afaik. On the
>>>>>>>>>>> contrary
>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> believe a lot of useful updates wouldn't happen with a wiki
>>>>>>> restricted
>>>>>>>>>>> to committers only.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've started this way just because I don't know how the
>>>>>>>>>> wiki is
>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> used by the project yet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Some projects use the Confluence wiki as their website and
>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>> bundle
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> part of their distribution. In that context, only committers
>>>>> should
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>> to contribute. I don't think it's the case for Hadoop, they
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> separate
>>>>>>>>>> Forrest-generated website.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So depending on how the wiki is going to be used and how the
>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>>> Casssandra website will be built, we can decide to have it
>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> /Johan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've just created a new Confluence space for Cassandra,
>>>>> Avinash's
>>>>>>>>>>> planning
>>>>>>>>>>>> to use it and most projects find it handy anyway. If other
>>>>>>> committers
>>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>>> edit access to it, please send me your Confluence user
>>>>>>>>>>>> name. If
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> have one yet, just register there:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>
Re: Website [WAS Re: Wiki]
Posted by Johan Oskarsson <jo...@oskarsson.nu>.
We now have a first version of the site running:
http://incubator.apache.org/cassandra
However, Matthieu commented on the wiki ticket here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-15
that he wants a decision on the site's future before moving on.
The two options as far as I know:
1. Store the site and any source material in svn, publish to the
apache.org site. It could be raw html, forrest xml+generated html, a
script that generates html or something similar.
2. Use a wiki as the site. Confluence?
Personally I prefer option 1, so we can accept website patches from
anyone and leave the wiki as a publicly editable place for everyone to
share information.
I don't care if we use Forrest or not for the site, it was just an easy
way to get started and a lot of Apache projects use it already. If
option 1 is chosen we can discuss what tool to use later.
What does everyone think? Should we initiate a vote about it?
/Johan
Sandeep Tata wrote:
> I think the Forrest site is great to start with. If you check it into
> the repository, others will be able to contribute patches much like
> code and the burden of building up the website will not fall on just
> the committers.
>
> A publicly editable wiki might work too, but if only the committers
> have edit permissions -- much of the work for building the site falls
> on them. We want to quickly get to a point where the committers can
> review patches and guide the community in adding value to the code.
> Not be bogged down in editing websites :)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
>> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I guess. Isn't that easier? Is there something else that is the norm?
>>>
>> No norm, just several different options. I personally like when the source
>> used to generate the site can be checked in the repository but that's mostly
>> a matter of taste. This for example is generated with Forrest:
>>
>> http://ant.apache.org/
>> http://lucene.apache.org/
>>
>> This is generated by a set of Ruby scripts from Textile files:
>>
>> http://buildr.apache.org/
>>
>> And this is generated from Confluence using custom templates:
>>
>> http://geronimo.apache.org/
>> http://ode.apache.org/
>>
>> FWIW, a Forrest site has already been contributed so that could be used to
>> start with until a sexier option is implemented?
>>
>> Matthieu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Avinash
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
>>>> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just got myself added as an "Author" maybe couple of days ago. I will
>>>>> start working on it. But there are other things too on my plate. I will
>>>> get
>>>>> around to it soon
>>>>>
>>>> So does that mean that you plan to use the wiki as a website?
>>>>
>>>> Matthieu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Avinash
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Sandeep Tata <sandeep.tata@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Prashant, Avinash, Jiansheng...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any update on the website?
>>>>>> It has been several weeks since the project got into the incubator,
>>>>>> but we still don't seem to have a website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think using Johan's Forrest generate site to start with is a good
>>>>>> idea. Are you guys considering anything else? What's holding us up? Do
>>>>>> you need any help with this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sandeep
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Matthieu Riou <
>>>> matthieu.riou@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
>>>> johan@oskarsson.nu
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok, I understand.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the topic of website I have suggested and created a basic
>>>> Forrest
>>>>>>>> generated site here:
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No response from any of the committers on the jira or on the lists
>>>> yet
>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe they weren't subscribed yet :) So what do other folks
>>>> think
>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> the website and using Forrest at least to get started?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Matthieu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /Johan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
>>>>> johan@oskarsson.nu
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Out of curiosity is there a reason to use a wiki without public
>>>>> edit
>>>>>>>>>> access? Apache Hadoop, for example, have had one that is
>>>> editable
>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>> anyone and they have not had any problems afaik. On the contrary
>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> believe a lot of useful updates wouldn't happen with a wiki
>>>>>> restricted
>>>>>>>>>> to committers only.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've started this way just because I don't know how the wiki is
>>>>> going
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> used by the project yet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some projects use the Confluence wiki as their website and even
>>>>> bundle
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> part of their distribution. In that context, only committers
>>>> should
>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>> to contribute. I don't think it's the case for Hadoop, they have
>>>> a
>>>>>>>> separate
>>>>>>>>> Forrest-generated website.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So depending on how the wiki is going to be used and how the
>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>> Casssandra website will be built, we can decide to have it work
>>>>> either
>>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Matthieu
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> /Johan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu Riou wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've just created a new Confluence space for Cassandra,
>>>> Avinash's
>>>>>>>>>> planning
>>>>>>>>>>> to use it and most projects find it handy anyway. If other
>>>>>> committers
>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>>> edit access to it, please send me your Confluence user name. If
>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>> have one yet, just register there:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Matthieu
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>
Re: Website [WAS Re: Wiki]
Posted by Sandeep Tata <sa...@gmail.com>.
I think the Forrest site is great to start with. If you check it into
the repository, others will be able to contribute patches much like
code and the burden of building up the website will not fall on just
the committers.
A publicly editable wiki might work too, but if only the committers
have edit permissions -- much of the work for building the site falls
on them. We want to quickly get to a point where the committers can
review patches and guide the community in adding value to the code.
Not be bogged down in editing websites :)
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I guess. Isn't that easier? Is there something else that is the norm?
>>
>
> No norm, just several different options. I personally like when the source
> used to generate the site can be checked in the repository but that's mostly
> a matter of taste. This for example is generated with Forrest:
>
> http://ant.apache.org/
> http://lucene.apache.org/
>
> This is generated by a set of Ruby scripts from Textile files:
>
> http://buildr.apache.org/
>
> And this is generated from Confluence using custom templates:
>
> http://geronimo.apache.org/
> http://ode.apache.org/
>
> FWIW, a Forrest site has already been contributed so that could be used to
> start with until a sexier option is implemented?
>
> Matthieu
>
>
>
>
>> Avinash
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
>>> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I just got myself added as an "Author" maybe couple of days ago. I will
>>> > start working on it. But there are other things too on my plate. I will
>>> get
>>> > around to it soon
>>> >
>>>
>>> So does that mean that you plan to use the wiki as a website?
>>>
>>> Matthieu
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Avinash
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Sandeep Tata <sandeep.tata@gmail.com
>>> > >wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Prashant, Avinash, Jiansheng...
>>> > >
>>> > > Any update on the website?
>>> > > It has been several weeks since the project got into the incubator,
>>> > > but we still don't seem to have a website.
>>> > >
>>> > > I think using Johan's Forrest generate site to start with is a good
>>> > > idea. Are you guys considering anything else? What's holding us up? Do
>>> > > you need any help with this?
>>> > >
>>> > > Sandeep
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Matthieu Riou <
>>> matthieu.riou@gmail.com
>>> > >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
>>> johan@oskarsson.nu
>>> > > >wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >> Ok, I understand.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> On the topic of website I have suggested and created a basic
>>> Forrest
>>> > > >> generated site here:
>>> > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Nice!
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >> No response from any of the committers on the jira or on the lists
>>> yet
>>> > > >> though.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I believe they weren't subscribed yet :) So what do other folks
>>> think
>>> > > about
>>> > > > the website and using Forrest at least to get started?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Cheers,
>>> > > > Matthieu
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> /Johan
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> Matthieu Riou wrote:
>>> > > >> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
>>> > johan@oskarsson.nu
>>> > > >> >wrote:
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >> Out of curiosity is there a reason to use a wiki without public
>>> > edit
>>> > > >> >> access? Apache Hadoop, for example, have had one that is
>>> editable
>>> > by
>>> > > >> >> anyone and they have not had any problems afaik. On the contrary
>>> I
>>> > > >> >> believe a lot of useful updates wouldn't happen with a wiki
>>> > > restricted
>>> > > >> >> to committers only.
>>> > > >> >>
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > I've started this way just because I don't know how the wiki is
>>> > going
>>> > > to
>>> > > >> be
>>> > > >> > used by the project yet.
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > Some projects use the Confluence wiki as their website and even
>>> > bundle
>>> > > it
>>> > > >> as
>>> > > >> > part of their distribution. In that context, only committers
>>> should
>>> > be
>>> > > >> able
>>> > > >> > to contribute. I don't think it's the case for Hadoop, they have
>>> a
>>> > > >> separate
>>> > > >> > Forrest-generated website.
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > So depending on how the wiki is going to be used and how the
>>> Apache
>>> > > >> > Casssandra website will be built, we can decide to have it work
>>> > either
>>> > > >> way.
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > Cheers,
>>> > > >> > Matthieu
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> >> /Johan
>>> > > >> >>
>>> > > >> >> Matthieu Riou wrote:
>>> > > >> >>> Hi guys,
>>> > > >> >>>
>>> > > >> >>> I've just created a new Confluence space for Cassandra,
>>> Avinash's
>>> > > >> >> planning
>>> > > >> >>> to use it and most projects find it handy anyway. If other
>>> > > committers
>>> > > >> >> want
>>> > > >> >>> edit access to it, please send me your Confluence user name. If
>>> > you
>>> > > >> don't
>>> > > >> >>> have one yet, just register there:
>>> > > >> >>>
>>> > > >> >>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence
>>> > > >> >>>
>>> > > >> >>> Cheers,
>>> > > >> >>> Matthieu
>>> > > >> >>>
>>> > > >> >>
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Website [WAS Re: Wiki]
Posted by Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
> I guess. Isn't that easier? Is there something else that is the norm?
>
No norm, just several different options. I personally like when the source
used to generate the site can be checked in the repository but that's mostly
a matter of taste. This for example is generated with Forrest:
http://ant.apache.org/
http://lucene.apache.org/
This is generated by a set of Ruby scripts from Textile files:
http://buildr.apache.org/
And this is generated from Confluence using custom templates:
http://geronimo.apache.org/
http://ode.apache.org/
FWIW, a Forrest site has already been contributed so that could be used to
start with until a sexier option is implemented?
Matthieu
> Avinash
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
>> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I just got myself added as an "Author" maybe couple of days ago. I will
>> > start working on it. But there are other things too on my plate. I will
>> get
>> > around to it soon
>> >
>>
>> So does that mean that you plan to use the wiki as a website?
>>
>> Matthieu
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Avinash
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Sandeep Tata <sandeep.tata@gmail.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Prashant, Avinash, Jiansheng...
>> > >
>> > > Any update on the website?
>> > > It has been several weeks since the project got into the incubator,
>> > > but we still don't seem to have a website.
>> > >
>> > > I think using Johan's Forrest generate site to start with is a good
>> > > idea. Are you guys considering anything else? What's holding us up? Do
>> > > you need any help with this?
>> > >
>> > > Sandeep
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Matthieu Riou <
>> matthieu.riou@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
>> johan@oskarsson.nu
>> > > >wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Ok, I understand.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On the topic of website I have suggested and created a basic
>> Forrest
>> > > >> generated site here:
>> > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > > Nice!
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >> No response from any of the committers on the jira or on the lists
>> yet
>> > > >> though.
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > > I believe they weren't subscribed yet :) So what do other folks
>> think
>> > > about
>> > > > the website and using Forrest at least to get started?
>> > > >
>> > > > Cheers,
>> > > > Matthieu
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >>
>> > > >> /Johan
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Matthieu Riou wrote:
>> > > >> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
>> > johan@oskarsson.nu
>> > > >> >wrote:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >> Out of curiosity is there a reason to use a wiki without public
>> > edit
>> > > >> >> access? Apache Hadoop, for example, have had one that is
>> editable
>> > by
>> > > >> >> anyone and they have not had any problems afaik. On the contrary
>> I
>> > > >> >> believe a lot of useful updates wouldn't happen with a wiki
>> > > restricted
>> > > >> >> to committers only.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > I've started this way just because I don't know how the wiki is
>> > going
>> > > to
>> > > >> be
>> > > >> > used by the project yet.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Some projects use the Confluence wiki as their website and even
>> > bundle
>> > > it
>> > > >> as
>> > > >> > part of their distribution. In that context, only committers
>> should
>> > be
>> > > >> able
>> > > >> > to contribute. I don't think it's the case for Hadoop, they have
>> a
>> > > >> separate
>> > > >> > Forrest-generated website.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > So depending on how the wiki is going to be used and how the
>> Apache
>> > > >> > Casssandra website will be built, we can decide to have it work
>> > either
>> > > >> way.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Cheers,
>> > > >> > Matthieu
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >> /Johan
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Matthieu Riou wrote:
>> > > >> >>> Hi guys,
>> > > >> >>>
>> > > >> >>> I've just created a new Confluence space for Cassandra,
>> Avinash's
>> > > >> >> planning
>> > > >> >>> to use it and most projects find it handy anyway. If other
>> > > committers
>> > > >> >> want
>> > > >> >>> edit access to it, please send me your Confluence user name. If
>> > you
>> > > >> don't
>> > > >> >>> have one yet, just register there:
>> > > >> >>>
>> > > >> >>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence
>> > > >> >>>
>> > > >> >>> Cheers,
>> > > >> >>> Matthieu
>> > > >> >>>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Website [WAS Re: Wiki]
Posted by Avinash Lakshman <av...@gmail.com>.
I guess. Isn't that easier? Is there something else that is the norm?
Avinash
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
> avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I just got myself added as an "Author" maybe couple of days ago. I will
> > start working on it. But there are other things too on my plate. I will
> get
> > around to it soon
> >
>
> So does that mean that you plan to use the wiki as a website?
>
> Matthieu
>
>
> >
> > Avinash
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Sandeep Tata <sandeep.tata@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Prashant, Avinash, Jiansheng...
> > >
> > > Any update on the website?
> > > It has been several weeks since the project got into the incubator,
> > > but we still don't seem to have a website.
> > >
> > > I think using Johan's Forrest generate site to start with is a good
> > > idea. Are you guys considering anything else? What's holding us up? Do
> > > you need any help with this?
> > >
> > > Sandeep
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Matthieu Riou <
> matthieu.riou@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
> johan@oskarsson.nu
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Ok, I understand.
> > > >>
> > > >> On the topic of website I have suggested and created a basic Forrest
> > > >> generated site here:
> > > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Nice!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> No response from any of the committers on the jira or on the lists
> yet
> > > >> though.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > I believe they weren't subscribed yet :) So what do other folks think
> > > about
> > > > the website and using Forrest at least to get started?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Matthieu
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> /Johan
> > > >>
> > > >> Matthieu Riou wrote:
> > > >> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
> > johan@oskarsson.nu
> > > >> >wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Out of curiosity is there a reason to use a wiki without public
> > edit
> > > >> >> access? Apache Hadoop, for example, have had one that is editable
> > by
> > > >> >> anyone and they have not had any problems afaik. On the contrary
> I
> > > >> >> believe a lot of useful updates wouldn't happen with a wiki
> > > restricted
> > > >> >> to committers only.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I've started this way just because I don't know how the wiki is
> > going
> > > to
> > > >> be
> > > >> > used by the project yet.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Some projects use the Confluence wiki as their website and even
> > bundle
> > > it
> > > >> as
> > > >> > part of their distribution. In that context, only committers
> should
> > be
> > > >> able
> > > >> > to contribute. I don't think it's the case for Hadoop, they have a
> > > >> separate
> > > >> > Forrest-generated website.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > So depending on how the wiki is going to be used and how the
> Apache
> > > >> > Casssandra website will be built, we can decide to have it work
> > either
> > > >> way.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Cheers,
> > > >> > Matthieu
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> /Johan
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Matthieu Riou wrote:
> > > >> >>> Hi guys,
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> I've just created a new Confluence space for Cassandra,
> Avinash's
> > > >> >> planning
> > > >> >>> to use it and most projects find it handy anyway. If other
> > > committers
> > > >> >> want
> > > >> >>> edit access to it, please send me your Confluence user name. If
> > you
> > > >> don't
> > > >> >>> have one yet, just register there:
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Cheers,
> > > >> >>> Matthieu
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Website [WAS Re: Wiki]
Posted by Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just got myself added as an "Author" maybe couple of days ago. I will
> start working on it. But there are other things too on my plate. I will get
> around to it soon
>
So does that mean that you plan to use the wiki as a website?
Matthieu
>
> Avinash
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Sandeep Tata <sandeep.tata@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Prashant, Avinash, Jiansheng...
> >
> > Any update on the website?
> > It has been several weeks since the project got into the incubator,
> > but we still don't seem to have a website.
> >
> > I think using Johan's Forrest generate site to start with is a good
> > idea. Are you guys considering anything else? What's holding us up? Do
> > you need any help with this?
> >
> > Sandeep
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Johan Oskarsson <johan@oskarsson.nu
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ok, I understand.
> > >>
> > >> On the topic of website I have suggested and created a basic Forrest
> > >> generated site here:
> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2
> > >>
> > >
> > > Nice!
> > >
> > >
> > >> No response from any of the committers on the jira or on the lists yet
> > >> though.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I believe they weren't subscribed yet :) So what do other folks think
> > about
> > > the website and using Forrest at least to get started?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Matthieu
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> /Johan
> > >>
> > >> Matthieu Riou wrote:
> > >> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
> johan@oskarsson.nu
> > >> >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Out of curiosity is there a reason to use a wiki without public
> edit
> > >> >> access? Apache Hadoop, for example, have had one that is editable
> by
> > >> >> anyone and they have not had any problems afaik. On the contrary I
> > >> >> believe a lot of useful updates wouldn't happen with a wiki
> > restricted
> > >> >> to committers only.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> > I've started this way just because I don't know how the wiki is
> going
> > to
> > >> be
> > >> > used by the project yet.
> > >> >
> > >> > Some projects use the Confluence wiki as their website and even
> bundle
> > it
> > >> as
> > >> > part of their distribution. In that context, only committers should
> be
> > >> able
> > >> > to contribute. I don't think it's the case for Hadoop, they have a
> > >> separate
> > >> > Forrest-generated website.
> > >> >
> > >> > So depending on how the wiki is going to be used and how the Apache
> > >> > Casssandra website will be built, we can decide to have it work
> either
> > >> way.
> > >> >
> > >> > Cheers,
> > >> > Matthieu
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> /Johan
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Matthieu Riou wrote:
> > >> >>> Hi guys,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I've just created a new Confluence space for Cassandra, Avinash's
> > >> >> planning
> > >> >>> to use it and most projects find it handy anyway. If other
> > committers
> > >> >> want
> > >> >>> edit access to it, please send me your Confluence user name. If
> you
> > >> don't
> > >> >>> have one yet, just register there:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Cheers,
> > >> >>> Matthieu
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
Re: Website [WAS Re: Wiki]
Posted by Prashant Malik <pm...@gmail.com>.
This week is going to be busy with FB work but I will be taking a shot at
this over the weekend . I have some material ready that I created for our
internal website
so that should be hepful.
- Prashant
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Avinash Lakshman <
avinash.lakshman@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just got myself added as an "Author" maybe couple of days ago. I will
> start working on it. But there are other things too on my plate. I will get
> around to it soon
>
> Avinash
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Sandeep Tata <sandeep.tata@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Prashant, Avinash, Jiansheng...
> >
> > Any update on the website?
> > It has been several weeks since the project got into the incubator,
> > but we still don't seem to have a website.
> >
> > I think using Johan's Forrest generate site to start with is a good
> > idea. Are you guys considering anything else? What's holding us up? Do
> > you need any help with this?
> >
> > Sandeep
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Johan Oskarsson <johan@oskarsson.nu
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ok, I understand.
> > >>
> > >> On the topic of website I have suggested and created a basic Forrest
> > >> generated site here:
> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2
> > >>
> > >
> > > Nice!
> > >
> > >
> > >> No response from any of the committers on the jira or on the lists yet
> > >> though.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I believe they weren't subscribed yet :) So what do other folks think
> > about
> > > the website and using Forrest at least to get started?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Matthieu
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> /Johan
> > >>
> > >> Matthieu Riou wrote:
> > >> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Johan Oskarsson <
> johan@oskarsson.nu
> > >> >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Out of curiosity is there a reason to use a wiki without public
> edit
> > >> >> access? Apache Hadoop, for example, have had one that is editable
> by
> > >> >> anyone and they have not had any problems afaik. On the contrary I
> > >> >> believe a lot of useful updates wouldn't happen with a wiki
> > restricted
> > >> >> to committers only.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> > I've started this way just because I don't know how the wiki is
> going
> > to
> > >> be
> > >> > used by the project yet.
> > >> >
> > >> > Some projects use the Confluence wiki as their website and even
> bundle
> > it
> > >> as
> > >> > part of their distribution. In that context, only committers should
> be
> > >> able
> > >> > to contribute. I don't think it's the case for Hadoop, they have a
> > >> separate
> > >> > Forrest-generated website.
> > >> >
> > >> > So depending on how the wiki is going to be used and how the Apache
> > >> > Casssandra website will be built, we can decide to have it work
> either
> > >> way.
> > >> >
> > >> > Cheers,
> > >> > Matthieu
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> /Johan
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Matthieu Riou wrote:
> > >> >>> Hi guys,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I've just created a new Confluence space for Cassandra, Avinash's
> > >> >> planning
> > >> >>> to use it and most projects find it handy anyway. If other
> > committers
> > >> >> want
> > >> >>> edit access to it, please send me your Confluence user name. If
> you
> > >> don't
> > >> >>> have one yet, just register there:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Cheers,
> > >> >>> Matthieu
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
Re: Website [WAS Re: Wiki]
Posted by Avinash Lakshman <av...@gmail.com>.
I just got myself added as an "Author" maybe couple of days ago. I will
start working on it. But there are other things too on my plate. I will get
around to it soon
Avinash
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Sandeep Tata <sa...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Prashant, Avinash, Jiansheng...
>
> Any update on the website?
> It has been several weeks since the project got into the incubator,
> but we still don't seem to have a website.
>
> I think using Johan's Forrest generate site to start with is a good
> idea. Are you guys considering anything else? What's holding us up? Do
> you need any help with this?
>
> Sandeep
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Johan Oskarsson <johan@oskarsson.nu
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Ok, I understand.
> >>
> >> On the topic of website I have suggested and created a basic Forrest
> >> generated site here:
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2
> >>
> >
> > Nice!
> >
> >
> >> No response from any of the committers on the jira or on the lists yet
> >> though.
> >>
> >
> > I believe they weren't subscribed yet :) So what do other folks think
> about
> > the website and using Forrest at least to get started?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Matthieu
> >
> >
> >>
> >> /Johan
> >>
> >> Matthieu Riou wrote:
> >> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Johan Oskarsson <johan@oskarsson.nu
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Out of curiosity is there a reason to use a wiki without public edit
> >> >> access? Apache Hadoop, for example, have had one that is editable by
> >> >> anyone and they have not had any problems afaik. On the contrary I
> >> >> believe a lot of useful updates wouldn't happen with a wiki
> restricted
> >> >> to committers only.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I've started this way just because I don't know how the wiki is going
> to
> >> be
> >> > used by the project yet.
> >> >
> >> > Some projects use the Confluence wiki as their website and even bundle
> it
> >> as
> >> > part of their distribution. In that context, only committers should be
> >> able
> >> > to contribute. I don't think it's the case for Hadoop, they have a
> >> separate
> >> > Forrest-generated website.
> >> >
> >> > So depending on how the wiki is going to be used and how the Apache
> >> > Casssandra website will be built, we can decide to have it work either
> >> way.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Matthieu
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> /Johan
> >> >>
> >> >> Matthieu Riou wrote:
> >> >>> Hi guys,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I've just created a new Confluence space for Cassandra, Avinash's
> >> >> planning
> >> >>> to use it and most projects find it handy anyway. If other
> committers
> >> >> want
> >> >>> edit access to it, please send me your Confluence user name. If you
> >> don't
> >> >>> have one yet, just register there:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Cheers,
> >> >>> Matthieu
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
Re: Website [WAS Re: Wiki]
Posted by Sandeep Tata <sa...@gmail.com>.
Prashant, Avinash, Jiansheng...
Any update on the website?
It has been several weeks since the project got into the incubator,
but we still don't seem to have a website.
I think using Johan's Forrest generate site to start with is a good
idea. Are you guys considering anything else? What's holding us up? Do
you need any help with this?
Sandeep
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Johan Oskarsson <jo...@oskarsson.nu>wrote:
>
>> Ok, I understand.
>>
>> On the topic of website I have suggested and created a basic Forrest
>> generated site here:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2
>>
>
> Nice!
>
>
>> No response from any of the committers on the jira or on the lists yet
>> though.
>>
>
> I believe they weren't subscribed yet :) So what do other folks think about
> the website and using Forrest at least to get started?
>
> Cheers,
> Matthieu
>
>
>>
>> /Johan
>>
>> Matthieu Riou wrote:
>> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Johan Oskarsson <johan@oskarsson.nu
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Out of curiosity is there a reason to use a wiki without public edit
>> >> access? Apache Hadoop, for example, have had one that is editable by
>> >> anyone and they have not had any problems afaik. On the contrary I
>> >> believe a lot of useful updates wouldn't happen with a wiki restricted
>> >> to committers only.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I've started this way just because I don't know how the wiki is going to
>> be
>> > used by the project yet.
>> >
>> > Some projects use the Confluence wiki as their website and even bundle it
>> as
>> > part of their distribution. In that context, only committers should be
>> able
>> > to contribute. I don't think it's the case for Hadoop, they have a
>> separate
>> > Forrest-generated website.
>> >
>> > So depending on how the wiki is going to be used and how the Apache
>> > Casssandra website will be built, we can decide to have it work either
>> way.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Matthieu
>> >
>> >
>> >> /Johan
>> >>
>> >> Matthieu Riou wrote:
>> >>> Hi guys,
>> >>>
>> >>> I've just created a new Confluence space for Cassandra, Avinash's
>> >> planning
>> >>> to use it and most projects find it handy anyway. If other committers
>> >> want
>> >>> edit access to it, please send me your Confluence user name. If you
>> don't
>> >>> have one yet, just register there:
>> >>>
>> >>> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Matthieu
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>