You Can't Say WebApp! -- was cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0/service/java ServiceController.java

[Jason Brittain <ja...@yahoo.com>]

pier@apache.org wrote:

> pier        01/06/25 18:32:07
> 
> Added:       service/java ServiceController.java
> Log:
> Full UNIX service implementation checkin

[snip]

> * 4. The names  "The  Jakarta  Project",  "WebApp", 
and  "Apache  Software *
> *    Foundation"  must not be used  to endorse or
promote  products derived *
> *    from this  software without  prior  written 
permission.  For  written *
> *    permission, please contact <ap...@apache.org>.
                       *

I fully realize the intent of the above clause in the
license for mod_webapp, but I have to ask..  
The term "web application" and "web app" have been
used
for years, especially with the word "server" on the
end, it's become a generic but descriptive label that
is today widely used in all kinds of documentation
for commercial products and open source projects.

Even though you've removed the space between the two
words web and app, to me it doesn't really change
the term significantly.  Am I alone here?

What the license above is saying is that noone can
take
Tomcat 4 (with mod_webapp and its pure-Java-side
connector), modify some part of the source, and use
the term WebApp to "endorse or promote" their project
or product.

So, are you and/or the Apache Software Foundation now
claiming exclusive rights to the use of the name
WebApp as this license clause claims?

--
Jason Brittain
<ja...@yahoo.com>



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Re: You Can't Say WebApp! -- was cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0/service/java ServiceController.java

[Jon Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>]

on 6/28/01 11:29 AM, "Pier P. Fumagalli" <pi...@betaversion.org> wrote:

> It's a mistake in the license for the service code, that shouldn't be there,
> as it's in the WebApp Module (wrong copy and paste) and I should probably
> change it in webapp to say "WebApp Module"
> 
>   Pier

To make it even more clear, it should say:

"Apache WebApp Module"

Wow...good catch Jason...

-jon

Re: You Can't Say WebApp! -- was cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0/service/java ServiceController.java

["Pier P. Fumagalli" <pi...@betaversion.org>]

Jason Brittain at jason_brittain@yahoo.com wrote:

> 
> pier@apache.org wrote:
> 
>> pier        01/06/25 18:32:07
>> 
>> Added:       service/java ServiceController.java
>> Log:
>> Full UNIX service implementation checkin
> 
> [snip]
> 
>> * 4. The names  "The  Jakarta  Project",  "WebApp",
> and  "Apache  Software *
>> *    Foundation"  must not be used  to endorse or
> promote  products derived *
>> *    from this  software without  prior  written
> permission.  For  written *
>> *    permission, please contact <ap...@apache.org>.
>                      *
> 
> I fully realize the intent of the above clause in the
> license for mod_webapp, but I have to ask..
> The term "web application" and "web app" have been
> used
> for years, especially with the word "server" on the
> end, it's become a generic but descriptive label that
> is today widely used in all kinds of documentation
> for commercial products and open source projects.
> 
> Even though you've removed the space between the two
> words web and app, to me it doesn't really change
> the term significantly.  Am I alone here?
> 
> What the license above is saying is that noone can
> take
> Tomcat 4 (with mod_webapp and its pure-Java-side
> connector), modify some part of the source, and use
> the term WebApp to "endorse or promote" their project
> or product.
> 
> So, are you and/or the Apache Software Foundation now
> claiming exclusive rights to the use of the name
> WebApp as this license clause claims?

It's a mistake in the license for the service code, that shouldn't be there,
as it's in the WebApp Module (wrong copy and paste) and I should probably
change it in webapp to say "WebApp Module"

    Pier