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Posted to dev@esme.apache.org by Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yo...@gmail.com> on 2010/04/02 17:25:14 UTC
Re: Text wrapping in timeline and popular message/links (ESME-112 and ESME-186)
I wanted to test in IE7, but I cannot sign up for a new account on my machine (localhost:8080).
Is the signup page broken or is it only me?
/Anne
On 2. apr. 2010, at 08.27, Richard Hirsch wrote:
> Thanks for the UI-related work. It is great that others are doing UI work as
> well.
>
> Unfortunately, I'm on vacation and can't do a stax deployment until Tuesday.
> :-<
>
> D.
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Ethan Jewett <es...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I just checked in word-wrap based fixes for both the timeline and the
>> popular messages/links. Word on the street is that this actually
>> should work in IE as well. Can someone build trunk and test, at least
>> on IE7? Any really long link with only normal characters in it (not -)
>> should trigger the issue.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ethan
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>> <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> OK, so we need to find a way to deal with text wrapping.
>>> We should probably decide which browsers to support in release 1.1 and
>> take it from there.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28. mars 2010, at 19.22, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yup, understood re. big companies still using IE6. I was just
>>>> wondering if any of our specific users (Siemens, at least) still
>>>> consider it supported internally. If not, then it might make sense to
>>>> consider not supporting it if it is a lot of extra work.
>>>>
>>>> On the messages front, it's just messages with long links, or other
>>>> long unbroken text strings that suffer the wrapping problem.
>>>>
>>>> Ethan
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>>> <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Is the wrapping problem for messages for all messages or just those
>> containing long links?
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that many big companies still use IE6 and won't care
>> about end-of-life dates.
>>>>> @Dick: IE6 support is still important for Siemens right?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 28. mars 2010, at 16.28, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds like a good approach to me, but keep in mind that we still have
>>>>>> the wrapping problem for messages themselves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the situation with IE6 support at places that have this
>>>>>> deployed currently? I'm thinking since IE6 and most IE7 versions
>>>>>> end-of-life is July 13th, those working on the UI might not want to
>>>>>> put too much effort into it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>>>>> <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I am just afraid that text wrapping is something which will take a
>> significant amount of time to get right.
>>>>>>> Remember we have support the following browsers:
>>>>>>> IE6
>>>>>>> IE7
>>>>>>> IE8
>>>>>>> Safari
>>>>>>> Firefox
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we should put it in the backlog for now and remove these
>> features from the UI for the 1.1 release.
>>>>>>> What say you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 27. mars 2010, at 15.42, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Whoops! I just created ESME-186 and attached it there:
>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ESME-186
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Richard Hirsch <
>> hirsch.dick@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ethan Jewett <es...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Richard Hirsch <
>> hirsch.dick@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What I'd like to do is use JQuery tool tips to display the help.
>> I just
>>>>>>>>>>> finished converting the action page and just deleted the help.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That sounds just about perfect!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck. Do you have suggestion of how to display a long url?
>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> a mouse-over that displays the fulltext.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think for starters we could drop the # of clicks and get away
>> from a
>>>>>>>>>> table-based model to a list-based model in the html. That helps
>>>>>>>>>> compact things a bit and gives us more ability to use CSS for
>> managing
>>>>>>>>>> text display. The next step is to force wrapping, which to the
>> best of
>>>>>>>>>> my knowledge is not really possible in CSS2. Fortunately CSS3 has
>> the
>>>>>>>>>> "word-wrap:break-word" style, which does exactly what we want.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've attached a mock-up done using CSS3 using this approach. What
>> do you
>>>>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Email it to me directly, since the esme-dev mailing deamon usually
>> kills
>>>>>>>>> attachments.
>>>>>>>>> Or attach it to JIRA-100 item.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As a last resort, if we can't find a way to extend this to
>> non-CSS3
>>>>>>>>>> browsers, we could probably do some fancy JS or something to
>> insert
>>>>>>>>>> spaces into the text representation of the link, allowing it to
>> wrap.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What about creating dialogs but not modal dialogs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think modal dialogs and normal dialogs suffer from the same
>>>>>>>>>> disadvantages in this situation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Text wrapping in timeline and popular message/links (ESME-112 and ESME-186)
Posted by Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yo...@gmail.com>.
I don't get an error at all - it just looks like the signup button isn't working, it just refreshes the page but doesn't sing me up.
From what I can tell it is an IE issue (tested on IE6/7/8) as it works on FF.
On 3. apr. 2010, at 15.30, Richard Hirsch wrote:
> The code drop from Monday. What sort of error do you get? Does it work on
> FF?
>
> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> It works on the perf stax instance.
>> Which revision is deployed there?
>>
>> On 3. apr. 2010, at 08.33, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>>
>>> Have you tried it on perf stax instance?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <
>> yojibee@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wanted to test in IE7, but I cannot sign up for a new account on my
>>>> machine (localhost:8080).
>>>> Is the signup page broken or is it only me?
>>>>
>>>> /Anne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2. apr. 2010, at 08.27, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the UI-related work. It is great that others are doing UI
>> work
>>>> as
>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, I'm on vacation and can't do a stax deployment until
>>>> Tuesday.
>>>>> :-<
>>>>>
>>>>> D.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Ethan Jewett <es...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just checked in word-wrap based fixes for both the timeline and the
>>>>>> popular messages/links. Word on the street is that this actually
>>>>>> should work in IE as well. Can someone build trunk and test, at least
>>>>>> on IE7? Any really long link with only normal characters in it (not -)
>>>>>> should trigger the issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>>>>> <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> OK, so we need to find a way to deal with text wrapping.
>>>>>>> We should probably decide which browsers to support in release 1.1
>> and
>>>>>> take it from there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 28. mars 2010, at 19.22, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yup, understood re. big companies still using IE6. I was just
>>>>>>>> wondering if any of our specific users (Siemens, at least) still
>>>>>>>> consider it supported internally. If not, then it might make sense
>> to
>>>>>>>> consider not supporting it if it is a lot of extra work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the messages front, it's just messages with long links, or other
>>>>>>>> long unbroken text strings that suffer the wrapping problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>>>>>>> <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Is the wrapping problem for messages for all messages or just those
>>>>>> containing long links?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The problem is that many big companies still use IE6 and won't care
>>>>>> about end-of-life dates.
>>>>>>>>> @Dick: IE6 support is still important for Siemens right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 28. mars 2010, at 16.28, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like a good approach to me, but keep in mind that we still
>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> the wrapping problem for messages themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is the situation with IE6 support at places that have this
>>>>>>>>>> deployed currently? I'm thinking since IE6 and most IE7 versions
>>>>>>>>>> end-of-life is July 13th, those working on the UI might not want
>> to
>>>>>>>>>> put too much effort into it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>>>>>>>>> <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I am just afraid that text wrapping is something which will take
>> a
>>>>>> significant amount of time to get right.
>>>>>>>>>>> Remember we have support the following browsers:
>>>>>>>>>>> IE6
>>>>>>>>>>> IE7
>>>>>>>>>>> IE8
>>>>>>>>>>> Safari
>>>>>>>>>>> Firefox
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think we should put it in the backlog for now and remove these
>>>>>> features from the UI for the 1.1 release.
>>>>>>>>>>> What say you?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 27. mars 2010, at 15.42, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Whoops! I just created ESME-186 and attached it there:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ESME-186
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Richard Hirsch <
>>>>>> hirsch.dick@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ethan Jewett <
>>>> esjewett@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Richard Hirsch <
>>>>>> hirsch.dick@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I'd like to do is use JQuery tool tips to display the
>>>> help.
>>>>>> I just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finished converting the action page and just deleted the
>> help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That sounds just about perfect!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck. Do you have suggestion of how to display a long
>>>> url?
>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a mouse-over that displays the fulltext.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think for starters we could drop the # of clicks and get
>> away
>>>>>> from a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table-based model to a list-based model in the html. That
>> helps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compact things a bit and gives us more ability to use CSS for
>>>>>> managing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text display. The next step is to force wrapping, which to the
>>>>>> best of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my knowledge is not really possible in CSS2. Fortunately CSS3
>>>> has
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "word-wrap:break-word" style, which does exactly what we want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've attached a mock-up done using CSS3 using this approach.
>>>> What
>>>>>> do you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email it to me directly, since the esme-dev mailing deamon
>>>> usually
>>>>>> kills
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attachments.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or attach it to JIRA-100 item.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a last resort, if we can't find a way to extend this to
>>>>>> non-CSS3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browsers, we could probably do some fancy JS or something to
>>>>>> insert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spaces into the text representation of the link, allowing it
>> to
>>>>>> wrap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about creating dialogs but not modal dialogs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think modal dialogs and normal dialogs suffer from the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disadvantages in this situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: Text wrapping in timeline and popular message/links (ESME-112 and ESME-186)
Posted by Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yo...@gmail.com>.
Until I can signup with IE7/8 I cannot test it unfortunately, but can confirm that it looks good on FF (Win)
On 3. apr. 2010, at 15.30, Richard Hirsch wrote:
> The code drop from Monday. What sort of error do you get? Does it work on
> FF?
>
> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> It works on the perf stax instance.
>> Which revision is deployed there?
>>
>> On 3. apr. 2010, at 08.33, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>>
>>> Have you tried it on perf stax instance?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <
>> yojibee@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wanted to test in IE7, but I cannot sign up for a new account on my
>>>> machine (localhost:8080).
>>>> Is the signup page broken or is it only me?
>>>>
>>>> /Anne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2. apr. 2010, at 08.27, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the UI-related work. It is great that others are doing UI
>> work
>>>> as
>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, I'm on vacation and can't do a stax deployment until
>>>> Tuesday.
>>>>> :-<
>>>>>
>>>>> D.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Ethan Jewett <es...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just checked in word-wrap based fixes for both the timeline and the
>>>>>> popular messages/links. Word on the street is that this actually
>>>>>> should work in IE as well. Can someone build trunk and test, at least
>>>>>> on IE7? Any really long link with only normal characters in it (not -)
>>>>>> should trigger the issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>>>>> <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> OK, so we need to find a way to deal with text wrapping.
>>>>>>> We should probably decide which browsers to support in release 1.1
>> and
>>>>>> take it from there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 28. mars 2010, at 19.22, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yup, understood re. big companies still using IE6. I was just
>>>>>>>> wondering if any of our specific users (Siemens, at least) still
>>>>>>>> consider it supported internally. If not, then it might make sense
>> to
>>>>>>>> consider not supporting it if it is a lot of extra work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the messages front, it's just messages with long links, or other
>>>>>>>> long unbroken text strings that suffer the wrapping problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>>>>>>> <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Is the wrapping problem for messages for all messages or just those
>>>>>> containing long links?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The problem is that many big companies still use IE6 and won't care
>>>>>> about end-of-life dates.
>>>>>>>>> @Dick: IE6 support is still important for Siemens right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 28. mars 2010, at 16.28, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like a good approach to me, but keep in mind that we still
>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> the wrapping problem for messages themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is the situation with IE6 support at places that have this
>>>>>>>>>> deployed currently? I'm thinking since IE6 and most IE7 versions
>>>>>>>>>> end-of-life is July 13th, those working on the UI might not want
>> to
>>>>>>>>>> put too much effort into it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>>>>>>>>> <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I am just afraid that text wrapping is something which will take
>> a
>>>>>> significant amount of time to get right.
>>>>>>>>>>> Remember we have support the following browsers:
>>>>>>>>>>> IE6
>>>>>>>>>>> IE7
>>>>>>>>>>> IE8
>>>>>>>>>>> Safari
>>>>>>>>>>> Firefox
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think we should put it in the backlog for now and remove these
>>>>>> features from the UI for the 1.1 release.
>>>>>>>>>>> What say you?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 27. mars 2010, at 15.42, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Whoops! I just created ESME-186 and attached it there:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ESME-186
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Richard Hirsch <
>>>>>> hirsch.dick@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ethan Jewett <
>>>> esjewett@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Richard Hirsch <
>>>>>> hirsch.dick@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I'd like to do is use JQuery tool tips to display the
>>>> help.
>>>>>> I just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finished converting the action page and just deleted the
>> help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That sounds just about perfect!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck. Do you have suggestion of how to display a long
>>>> url?
>>>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a mouse-over that displays the fulltext.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think for starters we could drop the # of clicks and get
>> away
>>>>>> from a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table-based model to a list-based model in the html. That
>> helps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compact things a bit and gives us more ability to use CSS for
>>>>>> managing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text display. The next step is to force wrapping, which to the
>>>>>> best of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my knowledge is not really possible in CSS2. Fortunately CSS3
>>>> has
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "word-wrap:break-word" style, which does exactly what we want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've attached a mock-up done using CSS3 using this approach.
>>>> What
>>>>>> do you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Email it to me directly, since the esme-dev mailing deamon
>>>> usually
>>>>>> kills
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attachments.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or attach it to JIRA-100 item.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a last resort, if we can't find a way to extend this to
>>>>>> non-CSS3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browsers, we could probably do some fancy JS or something to
>>>>>> insert
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spaces into the text representation of the link, allowing it
>> to
>>>>>> wrap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about creating dialogs but not modal dialogs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think modal dialogs and normal dialogs suffer from the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disadvantages in this situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: Text wrapping in timeline and popular message/links (ESME-112 and
ESME-186)
Posted by Richard Hirsch <hi...@gmail.com>.
The code drop from Monday. What sort of error do you get? Does it work on
FF?
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yo...@gmail.com>wrote:
> It works on the perf stax instance.
> Which revision is deployed there?
>
> On 3. apr. 2010, at 08.33, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>
> > Have you tried it on perf stax instance?
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <
> yojibee@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> I wanted to test in IE7, but I cannot sign up for a new account on my
> >> machine (localhost:8080).
> >> Is the signup page broken or is it only me?
> >>
> >> /Anne
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2. apr. 2010, at 08.27, Richard Hirsch wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks for the UI-related work. It is great that others are doing UI
> work
> >> as
> >>> well.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately, I'm on vacation and can't do a stax deployment until
> >> Tuesday.
> >>> :-<
> >>>
> >>> D.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Ethan Jewett <es...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I just checked in word-wrap based fixes for both the timeline and the
> >>>> popular messages/links. Word on the street is that this actually
> >>>> should work in IE as well. Can someone build trunk and test, at least
> >>>> on IE7? Any really long link with only normal characters in it (not -)
> >>>> should trigger the issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Ethan
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> >>>> <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> OK, so we need to find a way to deal with text wrapping.
> >>>>> We should probably decide which browsers to support in release 1.1
> and
> >>>> take it from there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 28. mars 2010, at 19.22, Ethan Jewett wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Yup, understood re. big companies still using IE6. I was just
> >>>>>> wondering if any of our specific users (Siemens, at least) still
> >>>>>> consider it supported internally. If not, then it might make sense
> to
> >>>>>> consider not supporting it if it is a lot of extra work.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On the messages front, it's just messages with long links, or other
> >>>>>> long unbroken text strings that suffer the wrapping problem.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ethan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> >>>>>> <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Is the wrapping problem for messages for all messages or just those
> >>>> containing long links?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The problem is that many big companies still use IE6 and won't care
> >>>> about end-of-life dates.
> >>>>>>> @Dick: IE6 support is still important for Siemens right?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 28. mars 2010, at 16.28, Ethan Jewett wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sounds like a good approach to me, but keep in mind that we still
> >> have
> >>>>>>>> the wrapping problem for messages themselves.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What is the situation with IE6 support at places that have this
> >>>>>>>> deployed currently? I'm thinking since IE6 and most IE7 versions
> >>>>>>>> end-of-life is July 13th, those working on the UI might not want
> to
> >>>>>>>> put too much effort into it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ethan
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> >>>>>>>> <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> I am just afraid that text wrapping is something which will take
> a
> >>>> significant amount of time to get right.
> >>>>>>>>> Remember we have support the following browsers:
> >>>>>>>>> IE6
> >>>>>>>>> IE7
> >>>>>>>>> IE8
> >>>>>>>>> Safari
> >>>>>>>>> Firefox
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I think we should put it in the backlog for now and remove these
> >>>> features from the UI for the 1.1 release.
> >>>>>>>>> What say you?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 27. mars 2010, at 15.42, Ethan Jewett wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Whoops! I just created ESME-186 and attached it there:
> >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ESME-186
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Ethan
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Richard Hirsch <
> >>>> hirsch.dick@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ethan Jewett <
> >> esjewett@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Richard Hirsch <
> >>>> hirsch.dick@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What I'd like to do is use JQuery tool tips to display the
> >> help.
> >>>> I just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> finished converting the action page and just deleted the
> help.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> That sounds just about perfect!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck. Do you have suggestion of how to display a long
> >> url?
> >>>> Maybe
> >>>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a mouse-over that displays the fulltext.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think for starters we could drop the # of clicks and get
> away
> >>>> from a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> table-based model to a list-based model in the html. That
> helps
> >>>>>>>>>>>> compact things a bit and gives us more ability to use CSS for
> >>>> managing
> >>>>>>>>>>>> text display. The next step is to force wrapping, which to the
> >>>> best of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> my knowledge is not really possible in CSS2. Fortunately CSS3
> >> has
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "word-wrap:break-word" style, which does exactly what we want.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've attached a mock-up done using CSS3 using this approach.
> >> What
> >>>> do you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> think?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Email it to me directly, since the esme-dev mailing deamon
> >> usually
> >>>> kills
> >>>>>>>>>>> attachments.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Or attach it to JIRA-100 item.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> As a last resort, if we can't find a way to extend this to
> >>>> non-CSS3
> >>>>>>>>>>>> browsers, we could probably do some fancy JS or something to
> >>>> insert
> >>>>>>>>>>>> spaces into the text representation of the link, allowing it
> to
> >>>> wrap.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> What about creating dialogs but not modal dialogs.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think modal dialogs and normal dialogs suffer from the same
> >>>>>>>>>>>> disadvantages in this situation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ethan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: Text wrapping in timeline and popular message/links (ESME-112 and ESME-186)
Posted by Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yo...@gmail.com>.
It works on the perf stax instance.
Which revision is deployed there?
On 3. apr. 2010, at 08.33, Richard Hirsch wrote:
> Have you tried it on perf stax instance?
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yo...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I wanted to test in IE7, but I cannot sign up for a new account on my
>> machine (localhost:8080).
>> Is the signup page broken or is it only me?
>>
>> /Anne
>>
>>
>> On 2. apr. 2010, at 08.27, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the UI-related work. It is great that others are doing UI work
>> as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I'm on vacation and can't do a stax deployment until
>> Tuesday.
>>> :-<
>>>
>>> D.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Ethan Jewett <es...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just checked in word-wrap based fixes for both the timeline and the
>>>> popular messages/links. Word on the street is that this actually
>>>> should work in IE as well. Can someone build trunk and test, at least
>>>> on IE7? Any really long link with only normal characters in it (not -)
>>>> should trigger the issue.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ethan
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>>> <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> OK, so we need to find a way to deal with text wrapping.
>>>>> We should probably decide which browsers to support in release 1.1 and
>>>> take it from there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 28. mars 2010, at 19.22, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yup, understood re. big companies still using IE6. I was just
>>>>>> wondering if any of our specific users (Siemens, at least) still
>>>>>> consider it supported internally. If not, then it might make sense to
>>>>>> consider not supporting it if it is a lot of extra work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the messages front, it's just messages with long links, or other
>>>>>> long unbroken text strings that suffer the wrapping problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>>>>> <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Is the wrapping problem for messages for all messages or just those
>>>> containing long links?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem is that many big companies still use IE6 and won't care
>>>> about end-of-life dates.
>>>>>>> @Dick: IE6 support is still important for Siemens right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 28. mars 2010, at 16.28, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sounds like a good approach to me, but keep in mind that we still
>> have
>>>>>>>> the wrapping problem for messages themselves.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is the situation with IE6 support at places that have this
>>>>>>>> deployed currently? I'm thinking since IE6 and most IE7 versions
>>>>>>>> end-of-life is July 13th, those working on the UI might not want to
>>>>>>>> put too much effort into it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
>>>>>>>> <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I am just afraid that text wrapping is something which will take a
>>>> significant amount of time to get right.
>>>>>>>>> Remember we have support the following browsers:
>>>>>>>>> IE6
>>>>>>>>> IE7
>>>>>>>>> IE8
>>>>>>>>> Safari
>>>>>>>>> Firefox
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think we should put it in the backlog for now and remove these
>>>> features from the UI for the 1.1 release.
>>>>>>>>> What say you?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 27. mars 2010, at 15.42, Ethan Jewett wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Whoops! I just created ESME-186 and attached it there:
>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ESME-186
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Richard Hirsch <
>>>> hirsch.dick@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ethan Jewett <
>> esjewett@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Richard Hirsch <
>>>> hirsch.dick@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I'd like to do is use JQuery tool tips to display the
>> help.
>>>> I just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> finished converting the action page and just deleted the help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That sounds just about perfect!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck. Do you have suggestion of how to display a long
>> url?
>>>> Maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a mouse-over that displays the fulltext.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think for starters we could drop the # of clicks and get away
>>>> from a
>>>>>>>>>>>> table-based model to a list-based model in the html. That helps
>>>>>>>>>>>> compact things a bit and gives us more ability to use CSS for
>>>> managing
>>>>>>>>>>>> text display. The next step is to force wrapping, which to the
>>>> best of
>>>>>>>>>>>> my knowledge is not really possible in CSS2. Fortunately CSS3
>> has
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> "word-wrap:break-word" style, which does exactly what we want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've attached a mock-up done using CSS3 using this approach.
>> What
>>>> do you
>>>>>>>>>>>> think?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Email it to me directly, since the esme-dev mailing deamon
>> usually
>>>> kills
>>>>>>>>>>> attachments.
>>>>>>>>>>> Or attach it to JIRA-100 item.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As a last resort, if we can't find a way to extend this to
>>>> non-CSS3
>>>>>>>>>>>> browsers, we could probably do some fancy JS or something to
>>>> insert
>>>>>>>>>>>> spaces into the text representation of the link, allowing it to
>>>> wrap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about creating dialogs but not modal dialogs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think modal dialogs and normal dialogs suffer from the same
>>>>>>>>>>>> disadvantages in this situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ethan
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: Text wrapping in timeline and popular message/links (ESME-112 and
ESME-186)
Posted by Richard Hirsch <hi...@gmail.com>.
Have you tried it on perf stax instance?
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe <yo...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I wanted to test in IE7, but I cannot sign up for a new account on my
> machine (localhost:8080).
> Is the signup page broken or is it only me?
>
> /Anne
>
>
> On 2. apr. 2010, at 08.27, Richard Hirsch wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the UI-related work. It is great that others are doing UI work
> as
> > well.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I'm on vacation and can't do a stax deployment until
> Tuesday.
> > :-<
> >
> > D.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Ethan Jewett <es...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I just checked in word-wrap based fixes for both the timeline and the
> >> popular messages/links. Word on the street is that this actually
> >> should work in IE as well. Can someone build trunk and test, at least
> >> on IE7? Any really long link with only normal characters in it (not -)
> >> should trigger the issue.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ethan
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> >> <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> OK, so we need to find a way to deal with text wrapping.
> >>> We should probably decide which browsers to support in release 1.1 and
> >> take it from there.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 28. mars 2010, at 19.22, Ethan Jewett wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Yup, understood re. big companies still using IE6. I was just
> >>>> wondering if any of our specific users (Siemens, at least) still
> >>>> consider it supported internally. If not, then it might make sense to
> >>>> consider not supporting it if it is a lot of extra work.
> >>>>
> >>>> On the messages front, it's just messages with long links, or other
> >>>> long unbroken text strings that suffer the wrapping problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ethan
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> >>>> <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Is the wrapping problem for messages for all messages or just those
> >> containing long links?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The problem is that many big companies still use IE6 and won't care
> >> about end-of-life dates.
> >>>>> @Dick: IE6 support is still important for Siemens right?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 28. mars 2010, at 16.28, Ethan Jewett wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Sounds like a good approach to me, but keep in mind that we still
> have
> >>>>>> the wrapping problem for messages themselves.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is the situation with IE6 support at places that have this
> >>>>>> deployed currently? I'm thinking since IE6 and most IE7 versions
> >>>>>> end-of-life is July 13th, those working on the UI might not want to
> >>>>>> put too much effort into it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ethan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Anne Kathrine Petterøe
> >>>>>> <yo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> I am just afraid that text wrapping is something which will take a
> >> significant amount of time to get right.
> >>>>>>> Remember we have support the following browsers:
> >>>>>>> IE6
> >>>>>>> IE7
> >>>>>>> IE8
> >>>>>>> Safari
> >>>>>>> Firefox
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think we should put it in the backlog for now and remove these
> >> features from the UI for the 1.1 release.
> >>>>>>> What say you?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 27. mars 2010, at 15.42, Ethan Jewett wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Whoops! I just created ESME-186 and attached it there:
> >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ESME-186
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ethan
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Richard Hirsch <
> >> hirsch.dick@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ethan Jewett <
> esjewett@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Richard Hirsch <
> >> hirsch.dick@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> What I'd like to do is use JQuery tool tips to display the
> help.
> >> I just
> >>>>>>>>>>> finished converting the action page and just deleted the help.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> That sounds just about perfect!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Good luck. Do you have suggestion of how to display a long
> url?
> >> Maybe
> >>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> a mouse-over that displays the fulltext.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think for starters we could drop the # of clicks and get away
> >> from a
> >>>>>>>>>> table-based model to a list-based model in the html. That helps
> >>>>>>>>>> compact things a bit and gives us more ability to use CSS for
> >> managing
> >>>>>>>>>> text display. The next step is to force wrapping, which to the
> >> best of
> >>>>>>>>>> my knowledge is not really possible in CSS2. Fortunately CSS3
> has
> >> the
> >>>>>>>>>> "word-wrap:break-word" style, which does exactly what we want.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I've attached a mock-up done using CSS3 using this approach.
> What
> >> do you
> >>>>>>>>>> think?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Email it to me directly, since the esme-dev mailing deamon
> usually
> >> kills
> >>>>>>>>> attachments.
> >>>>>>>>> Or attach it to JIRA-100 item.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> As a last resort, if we can't find a way to extend this to
> >> non-CSS3
> >>>>>>>>>> browsers, we could probably do some fancy JS or something to
> >> insert
> >>>>>>>>>> spaces into the text representation of the link, allowing it to
> >> wrap.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> What about creating dialogs but not modal dialogs.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think modal dialogs and normal dialogs suffer from the same
> >>>>>>>>>> disadvantages in this situation.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Ethan
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>