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Re: AW: Save All when switching to Terminal
FWIW I use the *Save files on focus lost* feature of
http://hg.netbeans.org/main/contrib/file/tip/autosave and have had
this mode on in NetBeans (and similarly for Emacs, etc.) for a long
time. (I do not use NB’s built-in terminal.) I cannot recall a single
time where this saved a file and caused a problem for me. If a change
was a mistake, there is always Ctrl-Z. The *Save* gesture is obsolete
IMHO.
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Re: Save All when switching to Terminal
Posted by Scott Palmer <sw...@gmail.com>.
Something like: “Context-sensitive autosave”
Tooltip can give a more complete description.
Scott
> On May 1, 2020, at 11:49 AM, Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> What I want is "autosave before anything I do might care", so using terminal is included. Any wordsmiths?
>
> That's a good idea. Saving can trigger various background operations that work best when the source code is in a syntactically valid state--Compile-on-Save, project indexing etc. So it's best not to do so at "random" times, while the user might still be typing etc.
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RE: AW: Save All when switching to Terminal
Posted by Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com>.
> What I want is "autosave before anything I do might care", so using terminal is included. Any wordsmiths?
That's a good idea. Saving can trigger various background operations that work best when the source code is in a syntactically valid state--Compile-on-Save, project indexing etc. So it's best not to do so at "random" times, while the user might still be typing etc.
-- Eirik
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Subject: Re: AW: Save All when switching to Terminal
In the proposal there's
> Let's add a new "Autosave" tab to editor options with the following
> things.
>
> [x] Autosave when XXXX lose focus
>
> [x] Autosave on every [ 10] minutes
I would drop the XXXX concept from a UI, that seems like an implementation detail. What I want is "autosave before anything I do might care", so using terminal is included. Any wordsmiths?
-ernie
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Re: AW: Save All when switching to Terminal
Posted by Ernie Rael <er...@raelity.com>.
In the proposal there's
> Let's add a new "Autosave" tab to editor options with the following
> things.
>
> [x] Autosave when XXXX lose focus
>
> [x] Autosave on every [ 10] minutes
I would drop the XXXX concept from a UI, that seems like an
implementation detail. What I want is "autosave before anything I do
might care", so using terminal is included. Any wordsmiths?
-ernie
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Re: Re: AW: Save All when switching to Terminal
Posted by Michel Graciano <mi...@gmail.com>.
Hello Eric,
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On Fri, May 8, 2020, 13:28 Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does the auto save only save when there are changes or anytime changing
> focus (i.e. and possibly no change present)?
>
It basically call "Save All" action after some time or focus change,
depending on configuration. So, it saves the file only when there is any
change to save. No history is generated if the opened files have no changes
to be saved.
Hope it fits your needs.
> This is probably a different feature but was curious ...in Eclipse there
> is a local history that is maintained overtime with new versions each time
> a save is made locally which allows some visibility to changes not yet
> under version control (i.e. git, svn, etc.). Although if this was added if
> not there assume all the auto save could expand the number of entries.
>
I personally think it won't be necessary based on what I described before.
What do you think?
Best regards and sorry for the delay
> Eric Bresie
> Ebresie@gmail.com
> > On May 1, 2020 at 12:09:17 PM CDT, Laszlo Kishalmi <
> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It seems the author would like to donate the code!
> >
> > On 5/1/20 9:50 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> > > Thanks Jesse!
> > >
> > > As far as I've checked this is what we need. It is missing from the
> > > 8.2 UC for whatever reason...
> > >
> > > @Geertjan as this one is in contrib, shall it be donated by Oracle?
> > >
> > > I'm trying to contact the author as well.
> > >
> > > On 5/1/20 7:09 AM, Jesse Glick wrote:
> > > > FWIW I use the *Save files on focus lost* feature of
> > > > http://hg.netbeans.org/main/contrib/file/tip/autosave and have had
> > > > this mode on in NetBeans (and similarly for Emacs, etc.) for a long
> > > > time. (I do not use NB’s built-in terminal.) I cannot recall a single
> > > > time where this saved a file and caused a problem for me. If a change
> > > > was a mistake, there is always Ctrl-Z. The *Save* gesture is obsolete
> > > > IMHO.
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Re: Re: AW: Save All when switching to Terminal
Posted by Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com>.
Does the auto save only save when there are changes or anytime changing focus (i.e. and possibly no change present)?
This is probably a different feature but was curious ...in Eclipse there is a local history that is maintained overtime with new versions each time a save is made locally which allows some visibility to changes not yet under version control (i.e. git, svn, etc.). Although if this was added if not there assume all the auto save could expand the number of entries.
Eric Bresie
Ebresie@gmail.com
> On May 1, 2020 at 12:09:17 PM CDT, Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It seems the author would like to donate the code!
>
> On 5/1/20 9:50 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> > Thanks Jesse!
> >
> > As far as I've checked this is what we need. It is missing from the
> > 8.2 UC for whatever reason...
> >
> > @Geertjan as this one is in contrib, shall it be donated by Oracle?
> >
> > I'm trying to contact the author as well.
> >
> > On 5/1/20 7:09 AM, Jesse Glick wrote:
> > > FWIW I use the *Save files on focus lost* feature of
> > > http://hg.netbeans.org/main/contrib/file/tip/autosave and have had
> > > this mode on in NetBeans (and similarly for Emacs, etc.) for a long
> > > time. (I do not use NB’s built-in terminal.) I cannot recall a single
> > > time where this saved a file and caused a problem for me. If a change
> > > was a mistake, there is always Ctrl-Z. The *Save* gesture is obsolete
> > > IMHO.
> > >
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Re: Re: AW: Save All when switching to Terminal
Posted by Michel Graciano <mi...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Will I need to change it or is it OK? If needed I will do tomorrow.
Thank you
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Michel Graciano
On Fri, May 8, 2020, 13:03 Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not sure if this will cause issues but I see a few reverse domain name
> references like
>
> org/netbeans/modules
>
> I believe with migration to the Apache infrastructure, I’m it sure if that
> is available
>
> Does something need to get redirected or copied over to the
> Netbeans.apache.org infrastructure in some way?
>
> Eric Bresie
> Ebresie@gmail.com
>
> On May 1, 2020 at 7:25:27 PM CDT, Michel Graciano <
> michel.graciano@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey guys,
> PR just sent https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2119
>
> Feel free to send me any issues. Its been a while I haven't sent any code
> to NB.
>
> Best regards.
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 2:56 PM Patrick Musembi <pa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks mike
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2020, 20:19 Michel Graciano <mi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello guys,
> I will work the donation of this soon. Hope to get a PR asap. I am glad
> that this old work is really appreciated.
>
> Best regards.
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 2:09 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
>
> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com>
>
> wrote:
>
> It seems the author would like to donate the code!
>
> On 5/1/20 9:50 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>
> Thanks Jesse!
>
> As far as I've checked this is what we need. It is missing from the
> 8.2 UC for whatever reason...
>
> @Geertjan as this one is in contrib, shall it be donated by Oracle?
>
> I'm trying to contact the author as well.
>
> On 5/1/20 7:09 AM, Jesse Glick wrote:
>
> FWIW I use the *Save files on focus lost* feature of
> http://hg.netbeans.org/main/contrib/file/tip/autosave and have had
> this mode on in NetBeans (and similarly for Emacs, etc.) for a long
> time. (I do not use NB’s built-in terminal.) I cannot recall a
>
> single
>
> time where this saved a file and caused a problem for me. If a
>
> change
>
> was a mistake, there is always Ctrl-Z. The *Save* gesture is
>
> obsolete
>
> IMHO.
>
>
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Re: Re: AW: Save All when switching to Terminal
Posted by Eric Bresie <eb...@gmail.com>.
Not sure if this will cause issues but I see a few reverse domain name references like
org/netbeans/modules
I believe with migration to the Apache infrastructure, I’m it sure if that is available
Does something need to get redirected or copied over to the Netbeans.apache.org infrastructure in some way?
Eric Bresie
Ebresie@gmail.com
> On May 1, 2020 at 7:25:27 PM CDT, Michel Graciano <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey guys,
> PR just sent https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2119
>
> Feel free to send me any issues. Its been a while I haven't sent any code
> to NB.
>
> Best regards.
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 2:56 PM Patrick Musembi <pa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks mike
> >
> > On Fri, May 1, 2020, 20:19 Michel Graciano <mi...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello guys,
> > > I will work the donation of this soon. Hope to get a PR asap. I am glad
> > > that this old work is really appreciated.
> > >
> > > Best regards.
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 2:09 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
> > laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > It seems the author would like to donate the code!
> > > >
> > > > On 5/1/20 9:50 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> > > > > Thanks Jesse!
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as I've checked this is what we need. It is missing from the
> > > > > 8.2 UC for whatever reason...
> > > > >
> > > > > @Geertjan as this one is in contrib, shall it be donated by Oracle?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to contact the author as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/1/20 7:09 AM, Jesse Glick wrote:
> > > > > > FWIW I use the *Save files on focus lost* feature of
> > > > > > http://hg.netbeans.org/main/contrib/file/tip/autosave and have had
> > > > > > this mode on in NetBeans (and similarly for Emacs, etc.) for a long
> > > > > > time. (I do not use NB’s built-in terminal.) I cannot recall a
> > single
> > > > > > time where this saved a file and caused a problem for me. If a
> > change
> > > > > > was a mistake, there is always Ctrl-Z. The *Save* gesture is
> > obsolete
> > > > > > IMHO.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > Michel Graciano
> > > http://www.codigoefetivo.com.br/
> > > http://www.michelgraciano.com.br
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
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> http://www.codigoefetivo.com.br/
> http://www.michelgraciano.com.br
Re: AW: Save All when switching to Terminal
Posted by Michel Graciano <mi...@gmail.com>.
Hey guys,
PR just sent https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2119
Feel free to send me any issues. Its been a while I haven't sent any code
to NB.
Best regards.
On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 2:56 PM Patrick Musembi <pa...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks mike
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2020, 20:19 Michel Graciano <mi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello guys,
> > I will work the donation of this soon. Hope to get a PR asap. I am glad
> > that this old work is really appreciated.
> >
> > Best regards.
> >
> > On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 2:09 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <
> laszlo.kishalmi@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It seems the author would like to donate the code!
> > >
> > > On 5/1/20 9:50 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> > > > Thanks Jesse!
> > > >
> > > > As far as I've checked this is what we need. It is missing from the
> > > > 8.2 UC for whatever reason...
> > > >
> > > > @Geertjan as this one is in contrib, shall it be donated by Oracle?
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to contact the author as well.
> > > >
> > > > On 5/1/20 7:09 AM, Jesse Glick wrote:
> > > >> FWIW I use the *Save files on focus lost* feature of
> > > >> http://hg.netbeans.org/main/contrib/file/tip/autosave and have had
> > > >> this mode on in NetBeans (and similarly for Emacs, etc.) for a long
> > > >> time. (I do not use NB’s built-in terminal.) I cannot recall a
> single
> > > >> time where this saved a file and caused a problem for me. If a
> change
> > > >> was a mistake, there is always Ctrl-Z. The *Save* gesture is
> obsolete
> > > >> IMHO.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > >>
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
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> > http://www.codigoefetivo.com.br/
> > http://www.michelgraciano.com.br
> >
>
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Re: AW: Save All when switching to Terminal
Posted by Patrick Musembi <pa...@gmail.com>.
Thanks mike
On Fri, May 1, 2020, 20:19 Michel Graciano <mi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hello guys,
> I will work the donation of this soon. Hope to get a PR asap. I am glad
> that this old work is really appreciated.
>
> Best regards.
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 2:09 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > It seems the author would like to donate the code!
> >
> > On 5/1/20 9:50 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> > > Thanks Jesse!
> > >
> > > As far as I've checked this is what we need. It is missing from the
> > > 8.2 UC for whatever reason...
> > >
> > > @Geertjan as this one is in contrib, shall it be donated by Oracle?
> > >
> > > I'm trying to contact the author as well.
> > >
> > > On 5/1/20 7:09 AM, Jesse Glick wrote:
> > >> FWIW I use the *Save files on focus lost* feature of
> > >> http://hg.netbeans.org/main/contrib/file/tip/autosave and have had
> > >> this mode on in NetBeans (and similarly for Emacs, etc.) for a long
> > >> time. (I do not use NB’s built-in terminal.) I cannot recall a single
> > >> time where this saved a file and caused a problem for me. If a change
> > >> was a mistake, there is always Ctrl-Z. The *Save* gesture is obsolete
> > >> IMHO.
> > >>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.apache.org
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> >
> >
> >
>
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> http://www.codigoefetivo.com.br/
> http://www.michelgraciano.com.br
>
Re: AW: Save All when switching to Terminal
Posted by Michel Graciano <mi...@gmail.com>.
Hello guys,
I will work the donation of this soon. Hope to get a PR asap. I am glad
that this old work is really appreciated.
Best regards.
On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 2:09 PM Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> It seems the author would like to donate the code!
>
> On 5/1/20 9:50 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> > Thanks Jesse!
> >
> > As far as I've checked this is what we need. It is missing from the
> > 8.2 UC for whatever reason...
> >
> > @Geertjan as this one is in contrib, shall it be donated by Oracle?
> >
> > I'm trying to contact the author as well.
> >
> > On 5/1/20 7:09 AM, Jesse Glick wrote:
> >> FWIW I use the *Save files on focus lost* feature of
> >> http://hg.netbeans.org/main/contrib/file/tip/autosave and have had
> >> this mode on in NetBeans (and similarly for Emacs, etc.) for a long
> >> time. (I do not use NB’s built-in terminal.) I cannot recall a single
> >> time where this saved a file and caused a problem for me. If a change
> >> was a mistake, there is always Ctrl-Z. The *Save* gesture is obsolete
> >> IMHO.
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: AW: Save All when switching to Terminal
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
It seems the author would like to donate the code!
On 5/1/20 9:50 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> Thanks Jesse!
>
> As far as I've checked this is what we need. It is missing from the
> 8.2 UC for whatever reason...
>
> @Geertjan as this one is in contrib, shall it be donated by Oracle?
>
> I'm trying to contact the author as well.
>
> On 5/1/20 7:09 AM, Jesse Glick wrote:
>> FWIW I use the *Save files on focus lost* feature of
>> http://hg.netbeans.org/main/contrib/file/tip/autosave and have had
>> this mode on in NetBeans (and similarly for Emacs, etc.) for a long
>> time. (I do not use NB’s built-in terminal.) I cannot recall a single
>> time where this saved a file and caused a problem for me. If a change
>> was a mistake, there is always Ctrl-Z. The *Save* gesture is obsolete
>> IMHO.
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.apache.org
>>
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Re: AW: Save All when switching to Terminal
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Jesse!
As far as I've checked this is what we need. It is missing from the 8.2
UC for whatever reason...
@Geertjan as this one is in contrib, shall it be donated by Oracle?
I'm trying to contact the author as well.
On 5/1/20 7:09 AM, Jesse Glick wrote:
> FWIW I use the *Save files on focus lost* feature of
> http://hg.netbeans.org/main/contrib/file/tip/autosave and have had
> this mode on in NetBeans (and similarly for Emacs, etc.) for a long
> time. (I do not use NB’s built-in terminal.) I cannot recall a single
> time where this saved a file and caused a problem for me. If a change
> was a mistake, there is always Ctrl-Z. The *Save* gesture is obsolete
> IMHO.
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