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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com> on 2013/08/02 23:33:06 UTC

Reporting due dates

Greets,

"Marvin" sent out report reminders earlier today.  Here's my proposed timeline
for preparing our August report:

    Wed August 7 -- Podling reports due by end of day
    Tue August 13 -- Mentor signoff due by end of day
    Tue August 13 -- Shepherd reviews due by end of day
    Tue August 13 -- Summary due by end of day
    Wed August 14 -- IPMC Chair submits report (on time!)
    Wed August 21 -- Board meeting

Note that this month's schedule differs from the one I laid out for our July
report, primarily because of a mistake I made last month -- I had thought that
"Marvin" gave podlings a week and a half to submit their reports rather than
only five days.  This time I'm proposing that we adhere to Marvin's compressed
schedule -- so podling reports are due in less than a week.

In the future, I would like to send out podling reminders one week earlier.
That way, podlings will get the same amount of time that TLPs get, while still
allowing the IPMC several days for Mentor signoff and Shepherd review before
the Chair submits the report -- on time for a change, instead of a couple days
late as has been the Incubator's bad habit.

I believe that changing the timing for reminders will require modifications to
the reminders.pl script (a.k.a. "Marvin"), which is tricky because it looks
like it's hard to run without actually sending email.

  https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/tools/board_reminders

What I'm tempted to do is refactor some of the code in reminders.pl into a
handful of modules which can be run in non-production mode, making it
possible to write some tests and make changes with greater confidence.
Although this would be a fair amount of work, it's probably less in the long run
than making blind, untestable changes to the current monolithic script and
then cleaning up the huge mess when things go wrong (e.g. because every TLP
receives a reminder with the wrong date).

Thoughts?

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: Reporting due dates

Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi Marvin,

It would be good to get shepherd assignments. I have some travel coming ...

Thanks,
Dave

On Aug 2, 2013, at 2:33 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:

> Greets,
> 
> "Marvin" sent out report reminders earlier today.  Here's my proposed timeline
> for preparing our August report:
> 
>    Wed August 7 -- Podling reports due by end of day
>    Tue August 13 -- Mentor signoff due by end of day
>    Tue August 13 -- Shepherd reviews due by end of day
>    Tue August 13 -- Summary due by end of day
>    Wed August 14 -- IPMC Chair submits report (on time!)
>    Wed August 21 -- Board meeting
> 
> Note that this month's schedule differs from the one I laid out for our July
> report, primarily because of a mistake I made last month -- I had thought that
> "Marvin" gave podlings a week and a half to submit their reports rather than
> only five days.  This time I'm proposing that we adhere to Marvin's compressed
> schedule -- so podling reports are due in less than a week.
> 
> In the future, I would like to send out podling reminders one week earlier.
> That way, podlings will get the same amount of time that TLPs get, while still
> allowing the IPMC several days for Mentor signoff and Shepherd review before
> the Chair submits the report -- on time for a change, instead of a couple days
> late as has been the Incubator's bad habit.
> 
> I believe that changing the timing for reminders will require modifications to
> the reminders.pl script (a.k.a. "Marvin"), which is tricky because it looks
> like it's hard to run without actually sending email.
> 
>  https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/tools/board_reminders
> 
> What I'm tempted to do is refactor some of the code in reminders.pl into a
> handful of modules which can be run in non-production mode, making it
> possible to write some tests and make changes with greater confidence.
> Although this would be a fair amount of work, it's probably less in the long run
> than making blind, untestable changes to the current monolithic script and
> then cleaning up the huge mess when things go wrong (e.g. because every TLP
> receives a reminder with the wrong date).
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Marvin Humphrey
> 
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Name search (was Re: Reporting due dates)

Posted by Kevin Minder <ke...@hortonworks.com>.
Hey Chris,
The name search Jira remains open.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-25

I think the process stalled at a bunch of open ended questions from the 
trademark team.
Here is the link for that last exchange with Shane from Trademark
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/knox-dev/201303.mbox/%3C51390E5E.5020202@hortonworks.com%3E

IMPORTANT: Please see this note from Shane about mailing list use for 
these discussions.
 >The appropriate place to have discussions about future trademark 
issues is on trademarks@ and the podling's private@ list.

Kevin.

On 8/12/13 1:33 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote:
> Signed off, great work Kevin.
>
> Where do we sit with the naming issue for Knox? I thought we were
> good on that, but can't remember exactly.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
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> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Minder <ke...@hortonworks.com>
> Reply-To: "dev@knox.incubator.apache.org" <de...@knox.incubator.apache.org>
> Date: Friday, August 9, 2013 8:57 AM
> To: "dev@knox.incubator.apache.org" <de...@knox.incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: FW: Reporting due dates
>
>> Done,
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2013
>>
>> Mentors,
>> Please review and signoff.
>>
>> Chris,
>> Anything you want to add to spice it up would be great.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Kevin.
>>
>> On 8/8/13 1:10 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote:
>>> Knox'ers FYI need to write a report for August for the IPMC..
>>>
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>> Senior Computer Scientist
>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>>> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
>>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> Date: Thursday, August 8, 2013 8:37 AM
>>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Reporting due dates
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Marvin Humphrey
>>>> <ma...@rectangular.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>       Wed August 7 -- Podling reports due by end of day
>>>>>       Tue August 13 -- Mentor signoff due by end of day
>>>>>       Tue August 13 -- Shepherd reviews due by end of day
>>>>>       Tue August 13 -- Summary due by end of day
>>>>>       Wed August 14 -- IPMC Chair submits report (on time!)
>>>>>       Wed August 21 -- Board meeting
>>>> Thanks to Ambari, Blur, Droids, Hadoop Development Tools, MetaModel,
>>>> Olingo,
>>>> Open Climate Workbench, Samza, Spark and Tez -- all of whom have
>>>> adapted
>>>> to
>>>> this month's compressed schedule and filed their reports.
>>>>
>>>> If Knox, NPanday and Tashi could please file their reports soon, that
>>>> would be
>>>> great.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks also to the Mentors who have already signed off on the reports
>>>> their
>>>> podlings have prepared.  Participation seems to have increased this
>>>> month, and
>>>> we have a few days left to improve further.
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2013
>>>>
>>>> Marvin Humphrey
>>>>
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Re: Reporting due dates

Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Signed off, great work Kevin.

Where do we sit with the naming issue for Knox? I thought we were
good on that, but can't remember exactly.

Cheers,
Chris

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Minder <ke...@hortonworks.com>
Reply-To: "dev@knox.incubator.apache.org" <de...@knox.incubator.apache.org>
Date: Friday, August 9, 2013 8:57 AM
To: "dev@knox.incubator.apache.org" <de...@knox.incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: FW: Reporting due dates

>Done,
>https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2013
>
>Mentors,
>Please review and signoff.
>
>Chris,
>Anything you want to add to spice it up would be great.
>
>Thanks.
>Kevin.
>
>On 8/8/13 1:10 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote:
>> Knox'ers FYI need to write a report for August for the IPMC..
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
>> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>> Date: Thursday, August 8, 2013 8:37 AM
>> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Reporting due dates
>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Marvin Humphrey
>>><ma...@rectangular.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>      Wed August 7 -- Podling reports due by end of day
>>>>      Tue August 13 -- Mentor signoff due by end of day
>>>>      Tue August 13 -- Shepherd reviews due by end of day
>>>>      Tue August 13 -- Summary due by end of day
>>>>      Wed August 14 -- IPMC Chair submits report (on time!)
>>>>      Wed August 21 -- Board meeting
>>> Thanks to Ambari, Blur, Droids, Hadoop Development Tools, MetaModel,
>>> Olingo,
>>> Open Climate Workbench, Samza, Spark and Tez -- all of whom have
>>>adapted
>>> to
>>> this month's compressed schedule and filed their reports.
>>>
>>> If Knox, NPanday and Tashi could please file their reports soon, that
>>> would be
>>> great.
>>>
>>> Thanks also to the Mentors who have already signed off on the reports
>>> their
>>> podlings have prepared.  Participation seems to have increased this
>>> month, and
>>> we have a few days left to improve further.
>>>
>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2013
>>>
>>> Marvin Humphrey
>>>
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>


Re: FW: Reporting due dates

Posted by Kevin Minder <ke...@hortonworks.com>.
Done,
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2013

Mentors,
Please review and signoff.

Chris,
Anything you want to add to spice it up would be great.

Thanks.
Kevin.

On 8/8/13 1:10 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote:
> Knox'ers FYI need to write a report for August for the IPMC..
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> Date: Thursday, August 8, 2013 8:37 AM
> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Reporting due dates
>
>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
>> wrote:
>>>      Wed August 7 -- Podling reports due by end of day
>>>      Tue August 13 -- Mentor signoff due by end of day
>>>      Tue August 13 -- Shepherd reviews due by end of day
>>>      Tue August 13 -- Summary due by end of day
>>>      Wed August 14 -- IPMC Chair submits report (on time!)
>>>      Wed August 21 -- Board meeting
>> Thanks to Ambari, Blur, Droids, Hadoop Development Tools, MetaModel,
>> Olingo,
>> Open Climate Workbench, Samza, Spark and Tez -- all of whom have adapted
>> to
>> this month's compressed schedule and filed their reports.
>>
>> If Knox, NPanday and Tashi could please file their reports soon, that
>> would be
>> great.
>>
>> Thanks also to the Mentors who have already signed off on the reports
>> their
>> podlings have prepared.  Participation seems to have increased this
>> month, and
>> we have a few days left to improve further.
>>
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2013
>>
>> Marvin Humphrey
>>
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Re: FW: Reporting due dates

Posted by Kevin Minder <ke...@hortonworks.com>.
Yep.  I'll do it today.

On 8/8/13 1:10 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote:
> Knox'ers FYI need to write a report for August for the IPMC..
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
> Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> Date: Thursday, August 8, 2013 8:37 AM
> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Reporting due dates
>
>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
>> wrote:
>>>      Wed August 7 -- Podling reports due by end of day
>>>      Tue August 13 -- Mentor signoff due by end of day
>>>      Tue August 13 -- Shepherd reviews due by end of day
>>>      Tue August 13 -- Summary due by end of day
>>>      Wed August 14 -- IPMC Chair submits report (on time!)
>>>      Wed August 21 -- Board meeting
>> Thanks to Ambari, Blur, Droids, Hadoop Development Tools, MetaModel,
>> Olingo,
>> Open Climate Workbench, Samza, Spark and Tez -- all of whom have adapted
>> to
>> this month's compressed schedule and filed their reports.
>>
>> If Knox, NPanday and Tashi could please file their reports soon, that
>> would be
>> great.
>>
>> Thanks also to the Mentors who have already signed off on the reports
>> their
>> podlings have prepared.  Participation seems to have increased this
>> month, and
>> we have a few days left to improve further.
>>
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2013
>>
>> Marvin Humphrey
>>
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FW: Reporting due dates

Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Knox'ers FYI need to write a report for August for the IPMC..

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++






-----Original Message-----
From: Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Thursday, August 8, 2013 8:37 AM
To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Reporting due dates

>On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
>wrote:
>>     Wed August 7 -- Podling reports due by end of day
>>     Tue August 13 -- Mentor signoff due by end of day
>>     Tue August 13 -- Shepherd reviews due by end of day
>>     Tue August 13 -- Summary due by end of day
>>     Wed August 14 -- IPMC Chair submits report (on time!)
>>     Wed August 21 -- Board meeting
>
>Thanks to Ambari, Blur, Droids, Hadoop Development Tools, MetaModel,
>Olingo,
>Open Climate Workbench, Samza, Spark and Tez -- all of whom have adapted
>to
>this month's compressed schedule and filed their reports.
>
>If Knox, NPanday and Tashi could please file their reports soon, that
>would be
>great.
>
>Thanks also to the Mentors who have already signed off on the reports
>their
>podlings have prepared.  Participation seems to have increased this
>month, and
>we have a few days left to improve further.
>
>https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2013
>
>Marvin Humphrey
>
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Re: Reporting due dates

Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
>     Wed August 7 -- Podling reports due by end of day
>     Tue August 13 -- Mentor signoff due by end of day
>     Tue August 13 -- Shepherd reviews due by end of day
>     Tue August 13 -- Summary due by end of day
>     Wed August 14 -- IPMC Chair submits report (on time!)
>     Wed August 21 -- Board meeting

Thanks to Ambari, Blur, Droids, Hadoop Development Tools, MetaModel, Olingo,
Open Climate Workbench, Samza, Spark and Tez -- all of whom have adapted to
this month's compressed schedule and filed their reports.

If Knox, NPanday and Tashi could please file their reports soon, that would be
great.

Thanks also to the Mentors who have already signed off on the reports their
podlings have prepared.  Participation seems to have increased this month, and
we have a few days left to improve further.

https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/August2013

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: Reporting due dates

Posted by Joseph Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com>.
Jim added support for premonth notices  several months ago.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Joseph Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I run the script by hand because it requires a password for the svn checkouts.
>> 
>> If you need it to run a full week prior to the podling reports due date, just ask.
> 
> Thanks, Joe -- I plan to take you up on that.
> 
> For what it's worth -- looking at the code, I had some questions as to whether
> or not running the script before the month transitions might cause problems in
> terms of either deadline dates or recipient list.  I suppose we can just roll
> with it if only Incubator podlings might be affected or if you know something
> I don't.
> 
> I'll make sure that the wiki is prepared in time.
> 
> Marvin Humphrey
> 
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Re: Reporting due dates

Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Joseph Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I run the script by hand because it requires a password for the svn checkouts.
>
> If you need it to run a full week prior to the podling reports due date, just ask.

Thanks, Joe -- I plan to take you up on that.

For what it's worth -- looking at the code, I had some questions as to whether
or not running the script before the month transitions might cause problems in
terms of either deadline dates or recipient list.  I suppose we can just roll
with it if only Incubator podlings might be affected or if you know something
I don't.

I'll make sure that the wiki is prepared in time.

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: Reporting due dates

Posted by Joseph Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com>.
I run the script by hand because it requires a password for the svn checkouts.

If you need it to run a full week prior to the podling reports due date, just ask.
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 2, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:

> Greets,
> 
> "Marvin" sent out report reminders earlier today.  Here's my proposed timeline
> for preparing our August report:
> 
>    Wed August 7 -- Podling reports due by end of day
>    Tue August 13 -- Mentor signoff due by end of day
>    Tue August 13 -- Shepherd reviews due by end of day
>    Tue August 13 -- Summary due by end of day
>    Wed August 14 -- IPMC Chair submits report (on time!)
>    Wed August 21 -- Board meeting
> 
> Note that this month's schedule differs from the one I laid out for our July
> report, primarily because of a mistake I made last month -- I had thought that
> "Marvin" gave podlings a week and a half to submit their reports rather than
> only five days.  This time I'm proposing that we adhere to Marvin's compressed
> schedule -- so podling reports are due in less than a week.
> 
> In the future, I would like to send out podling reminders one week earlier.
> That way, podlings will get the same amount of time that TLPs get, while still
> allowing the IPMC several days for Mentor signoff and Shepherd review before
> the Chair submits the report -- on time for a change, instead of a couple days
> late as has been the Incubator's bad habit.
> 
> I believe that changing the timing for reminders will require modifications to
> the reminders.pl script (a.k.a. "Marvin"), which is tricky because it looks
> like it's hard to run without actually sending email.
> 
>  https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/tools/board_reminders
> 
> What I'm tempted to do is refactor some of the code in reminders.pl into a
> handful of modules which can be run in non-production mode, making it
> possible to write some tests and make changes with greater confidence.
> Although this would be a fair amount of work, it's probably less in the long run
> than making blind, untestable changes to the current monolithic script and
> then cleaning up the huge mess when things go wrong (e.g. because every TLP
> receives a reminder with the wrong date).
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Marvin Humphrey
> 
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