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Posted to dev@continuum.apache.org by Emmanuel Venisse <em...@gmail.com> on 2012/04/11 09:31:40 UTC
Move Continuum to Attic?
Hi,
Since long months, we have no activity on the project (no commit, no mail
on dev@).
What do you think about a move of the project to Attic?
Emmanuel
Re: what is needed for a 1.4.1 release (was: Move Continuum to Attic?)
Posted by Brent Atkinson <br...@gmail.com>.
Yes, sounds good. I'll read through the thread again to see if I can't
figure out items I can tackle. The empty pass issue Louis mentioned should
have a patch already (I believe I submitted it).
Brent
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> There were a few questions I posed earlier in the thread. Also, it seems
> like Marica has started taking a run at the issues.
>
> My understanding of the TODO list is:
> - get Redback upgraded off a snapshot
> - identify any release blocking issues - such as regressions
> - identify a release manager
> - identify any JIRA issues that should be tackled for 1.4.1, either
> because you've got something you want to finish / are familiar with, it has
> a patch
> - start pushing the rest out of the 1.4.1 bucket
>
> I suggest we try and get the first two done, then set a time box at which
> point the selected RM will start pushing it forward regardless of any
> issues still open (which might be best as soon as possible, before it loses
> attention).
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> - Brett
>
> On 20/04/2012, at 12:29 AM, Brent Atkinson wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sorry for the late response. I have been preoccupied with other
> > responsibilities, but coincidentally things have recently freed up and
> I'm
> > interested in moving things forward. I haven't gone through the release
> > process myself, but would love to help in any way I can.
> >
> > What can I do?
> >
> > Brent
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Louis Smith <dr.louis.smith@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Setup IceChat and joined. DrLLSmith will see you there!
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Deng Ching <oc...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Louis, you might also want to join #continuum in irc.codehaus.org(port
> >>> 6667) for quick questions :)
> >>>
> >>> -Deng
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 17/04/2012, at 9:50 PM, Louis Smith wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I also agree on the 1.4.1GA. I will make time to help on that - but
> >> I
> >>>> will
> >>>>> need your guidance.
> >>>>
> >>>> Great!
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From my memory, I recall that it will need (at least)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - the fixed version of redback for blank passwords to LDAP
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you recall the issue # here?
> >>>>
> >>>> Probably the first thing to try is to see if Redback 1.3 is suitable
> to
> >>>> drop in. Trunk is currently looking at 1.3-M2-SNAPSHOT, so it needs to
> >> be
> >>>> updated. There may be some incompatible changes (and certainly 1.4 is
> >> far
> >>>> more significant). If that becomes a problem, the other option is to
> >>>> release off the 1.3-Mx branch with the required changes.
> >>>>
> >>>>> - database update scripts for 1.3.x to 1.4.x ( I may have those in
> >> my
> >>>>> archive from when I did my upgrades to 1.4.x)
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm sure that this just works automatically - I did it on a few
> >>> occasions.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would very much prefer getting my clients up to the 1.4.x branch
> >> than
> >>>>> converting them off the apache stack to mercurial/hudson.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So... how do I get started?
> >>>>
> >>>> Once the redback snapshot is sorted out and any fixes you're willing
> to
> >>>> integrate are in, it should be ready to go.
> >>>>
> >>>> The other thing people can do to help is identifying JIRA issues that
> >>>> either can or should be fixed (whether in this or a subsequent point
> >>>> release), and if possible helping with that.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Got some docs for me to read on how to push a
> >>>>> release?
> >>>>
> >>>> That's something I can work with you on -
> >>>> http://continuum.apache.org/development/release.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Most of that is straightforward - the main work there is in testing
> and
> >>>> doing things like release notes.
> >>>>
> >>>> - Brett
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Brett Porter
> >>>> brett@apache.org
> >>>> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dr. Louis Smith, ThD
> >> Chief Technology Officer, Kyra InfoTech
> >> Colonel, Commemorative Air Force
> >>
>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
> http://twitter.com/brettporter
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: what is needed for a 1.4.1 release (was: Move Continuum to Attic?)
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
There were a few questions I posed earlier in the thread. Also, it seems like Marica has started taking a run at the issues.
My understanding of the TODO list is:
- get Redback upgraded off a snapshot
- identify any release blocking issues - such as regressions
- identify a release manager
- identify any JIRA issues that should be tackled for 1.4.1, either because you've got something you want to finish / are familiar with, it has a patch
- start pushing the rest out of the 1.4.1 bucket
I suggest we try and get the first two done, then set a time box at which point the selected RM will start pushing it forward regardless of any issues still open (which might be best as soon as possible, before it loses attention).
Does that make sense?
- Brett
On 20/04/2012, at 12:29 AM, Brent Atkinson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sorry for the late response. I have been preoccupied with other
> responsibilities, but coincidentally things have recently freed up and I'm
> interested in moving things forward. I haven't gone through the release
> process myself, but would love to help in any way I can.
>
> What can I do?
>
> Brent
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Louis Smith <dr...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Setup IceChat and joined. DrLLSmith will see you there!
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Deng Ching <oc...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Louis, you might also want to join #continuum in irc.codehaus.org (port
>>> 6667) for quick questions :)
>>>
>>> -Deng
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17/04/2012, at 9:50 PM, Louis Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I also agree on the 1.4.1GA. I will make time to help on that - but
>> I
>>>> will
>>>>> need your guidance.
>>>>
>>>> Great!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From my memory, I recall that it will need (at least)
>>>>>
>>>>> - the fixed version of redback for blank passwords to LDAP
>>>>
>>>> Do you recall the issue # here?
>>>>
>>>> Probably the first thing to try is to see if Redback 1.3 is suitable to
>>>> drop in. Trunk is currently looking at 1.3-M2-SNAPSHOT, so it needs to
>> be
>>>> updated. There may be some incompatible changes (and certainly 1.4 is
>> far
>>>> more significant). If that becomes a problem, the other option is to
>>>> release off the 1.3-Mx branch with the required changes.
>>>>
>>>>> - database update scripts for 1.3.x to 1.4.x ( I may have those in
>> my
>>>>> archive from when I did my upgrades to 1.4.x)
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure that this just works automatically - I did it on a few
>>> occasions.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would very much prefer getting my clients up to the 1.4.x branch
>> than
>>>>> converting them off the apache stack to mercurial/hudson.
>>>>>
>>>>> So... how do I get started?
>>>>
>>>> Once the redback snapshot is sorted out and any fixes you're willing to
>>>> integrate are in, it should be ready to go.
>>>>
>>>> The other thing people can do to help is identifying JIRA issues that
>>>> either can or should be fixed (whether in this or a subsequent point
>>>> release), and if possible helping with that.
>>>>
>>>>> Got some docs for me to read on how to push a
>>>>> release?
>>>>
>>>> That's something I can work with you on -
>>>> http://continuum.apache.org/development/release.html
>>>>
>>>> Most of that is straightforward - the main work there is in testing and
>>>> doing things like release notes.
>>>>
>>>> - Brett
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Brett Porter
>>>> brett@apache.org
>>>> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Louis Smith, ThD
>> Chief Technology Officer, Kyra InfoTech
>> Colonel, Commemorative Air Force
>>
--
Brett Porter
brett@apache.org
http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
http://twitter.com/brettporter
Re: what is needed for a 1.4.1 release (was: Move Continuum to Attic?)
Posted by Brent Atkinson <br...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Sorry for the late response. I have been preoccupied with other
responsibilities, but coincidentally things have recently freed up and I'm
interested in moving things forward. I haven't gone through the release
process myself, but would love to help in any way I can.
What can I do?
Brent
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Louis Smith <dr...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Setup IceChat and joined. DrLLSmith will see you there!
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Deng Ching <oc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Louis, you might also want to join #continuum in irc.codehaus.org (port
> > 6667) for quick questions :)
> >
> > -Deng
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On 17/04/2012, at 9:50 PM, Louis Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > > I also agree on the 1.4.1GA. I will make time to help on that - but
> I
> > > will
> > > > need your guidance.
> > >
> > > Great!
> > >
> > > >
> > > > From my memory, I recall that it will need (at least)
> > > >
> > > > - the fixed version of redback for blank passwords to LDAP
> > >
> > > Do you recall the issue # here?
> > >
> > > Probably the first thing to try is to see if Redback 1.3 is suitable to
> > > drop in. Trunk is currently looking at 1.3-M2-SNAPSHOT, so it needs to
> be
> > > updated. There may be some incompatible changes (and certainly 1.4 is
> far
> > > more significant). If that becomes a problem, the other option is to
> > > release off the 1.3-Mx branch with the required changes.
> > >
> > > > - database update scripts for 1.3.x to 1.4.x ( I may have those in
> my
> > > > archive from when I did my upgrades to 1.4.x)
> > >
> > > I'm sure that this just works automatically - I did it on a few
> > occasions.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I would very much prefer getting my clients up to the 1.4.x branch
> than
> > > > converting them off the apache stack to mercurial/hudson.
> > > >
> > > > So... how do I get started?
> > >
> > > Once the redback snapshot is sorted out and any fixes you're willing to
> > > integrate are in, it should be ready to go.
> > >
> > > The other thing people can do to help is identifying JIRA issues that
> > > either can or should be fixed (whether in this or a subsequent point
> > > release), and if possible helping with that.
> > >
> > > > Got some docs for me to read on how to push a
> > > > release?
> > >
> > > That's something I can work with you on -
> > > http://continuum.apache.org/development/release.html
> > >
> > > Most of that is straightforward - the main work there is in testing and
> > > doing things like release notes.
> > >
> > > - Brett
> > >
> > > --
> > > Brett Porter
> > > brett@apache.org
> > > http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Louis Smith, ThD
> Chief Technology Officer, Kyra InfoTech
> Colonel, Commemorative Air Force
>
Re: what is needed for a 1.4.1 release (was: Move Continuum to Attic?)
Posted by Louis Smith <dr...@gmail.com>.
Setup IceChat and joined. DrLLSmith will see you there!
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Deng Ching <oc...@apache.org> wrote:
> Louis, you might also want to join #continuum in irc.codehaus.org (port
> 6667) for quick questions :)
>
> -Deng
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 17/04/2012, at 9:50 PM, Louis Smith wrote:
> >
> > > I also agree on the 1.4.1GA. I will make time to help on that - but I
> > will
> > > need your guidance.
> >
> > Great!
> >
> > >
> > > From my memory, I recall that it will need (at least)
> > >
> > > - the fixed version of redback for blank passwords to LDAP
> >
> > Do you recall the issue # here?
> >
> > Probably the first thing to try is to see if Redback 1.3 is suitable to
> > drop in. Trunk is currently looking at 1.3-M2-SNAPSHOT, so it needs to be
> > updated. There may be some incompatible changes (and certainly 1.4 is far
> > more significant). If that becomes a problem, the other option is to
> > release off the 1.3-Mx branch with the required changes.
> >
> > > - database update scripts for 1.3.x to 1.4.x ( I may have those in my
> > > archive from when I did my upgrades to 1.4.x)
> >
> > I'm sure that this just works automatically - I did it on a few
> occasions.
> >
> > >
> > > I would very much prefer getting my clients up to the 1.4.x branch than
> > > converting them off the apache stack to mercurial/hudson.
> > >
> > > So... how do I get started?
> >
> > Once the redback snapshot is sorted out and any fixes you're willing to
> > integrate are in, it should be ready to go.
> >
> > The other thing people can do to help is identifying JIRA issues that
> > either can or should be fixed (whether in this or a subsequent point
> > release), and if possible helping with that.
> >
> > > Got some docs for me to read on how to push a
> > > release?
> >
> > That's something I can work with you on -
> > http://continuum.apache.org/development/release.html
> >
> > Most of that is straightforward - the main work there is in testing and
> > doing things like release notes.
> >
> > - Brett
> >
> > --
> > Brett Porter
> > brett@apache.org
> > http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> >
> >
>
--
Dr. Louis Smith, ThD
Chief Technology Officer, Kyra InfoTech
Colonel, Commemorative Air Force
Re: what is needed for a 1.4.1 release (was: Move Continuum to Attic?)
Posted by Deng Ching <oc...@apache.org>.
Louis, you might also want to join #continuum in irc.codehaus.org (port
6667) for quick questions :)
-Deng
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 17/04/2012, at 9:50 PM, Louis Smith wrote:
>
> > I also agree on the 1.4.1GA. I will make time to help on that - but I
> will
> > need your guidance.
>
> Great!
>
> >
> > From my memory, I recall that it will need (at least)
> >
> > - the fixed version of redback for blank passwords to LDAP
>
> Do you recall the issue # here?
>
> Probably the first thing to try is to see if Redback 1.3 is suitable to
> drop in. Trunk is currently looking at 1.3-M2-SNAPSHOT, so it needs to be
> updated. There may be some incompatible changes (and certainly 1.4 is far
> more significant). If that becomes a problem, the other option is to
> release off the 1.3-Mx branch with the required changes.
>
> > - database update scripts for 1.3.x to 1.4.x ( I may have those in my
> > archive from when I did my upgrades to 1.4.x)
>
> I'm sure that this just works automatically - I did it on a few occasions.
>
> >
> > I would very much prefer getting my clients up to the 1.4.x branch than
> > converting them off the apache stack to mercurial/hudson.
> >
> > So... how do I get started?
>
> Once the redback snapshot is sorted out and any fixes you're willing to
> integrate are in, it should be ready to go.
>
> The other thing people can do to help is identifying JIRA issues that
> either can or should be fixed (whether in this or a subsequent point
> release), and if possible helping with that.
>
> > Got some docs for me to read on how to push a
> > release?
>
> That's something I can work with you on -
> http://continuum.apache.org/development/release.html
>
> Most of that is straightforward - the main work there is in testing and
> doing things like release notes.
>
> - Brett
>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>
>
Re: what is needed for a 1.4.1 release (was: Move Continuum to Attic?)
Posted by Louis Smith <dr...@gmail.com>.
I'll be at that client site on Monday, i'll pull the manifest from the
files and let you know.
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> Which timestamp number did that end up being in your deployed Continuum
> instance?
>
> On 05/05/2012, at 3:21 AM, Louis Smith wrote:
>
> > 1.3-SNAPSHOT is what I see in my records.
> > Hope that helps...
> >
> > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 04/05/2012, at 4:58 AM, Louis Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>> I was going through my archive to find the reference, and got the same
> >> one
> >>> you had.
> >>>
> >>> If I recall Correctly (which is rare...) I was able to rebuild redback
> >> and
> >>> pop it into my 1.4.1-SNAPSHOT build of Continuum - and I've been
> running
> >>> that for at least a year now.
> >>
> >> Did you use 1.3, or a snapshot of trunk at some point in between where
> it
> >> is now and 1.3?
> >>
> >> That'd be helpful to know, as one of the things on the list was:
> >>
> >> "Probably the first thing to try is to see if Redback 1.3 is suitable to
> >> drop in. Trunk is currently looking at 1.3-M2-SNAPSHOT, so it needs to
> be
> >> updated. There may be some incompatible changes (and certainly 1.4 is
> far
> >> more significant). If that becomes a problem, the other option is to
> >> release off the 1.3-Mx branch with the required changes."
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Brett
> >>
> >> --
> >> Brett Porter
> >> brett@apache.org
> >> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> >> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
> >> http://twitter.com/brettporter
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Louis Smith, ThD
> > Chief Technology Officer, Kyra InfoTech
> > Colonel, Commemorative Air Force
>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
> http://twitter.com/brettporter
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Dr. Louis Smith, ThD
Chief Technology Officer, Kyra InfoTech
Colonel, Commemorative Air Force
Re: what is needed for a 1.4.1 release (was: Move Continuum to Attic?)
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
Which timestamp number did that end up being in your deployed Continuum instance?
On 05/05/2012, at 3:21 AM, Louis Smith wrote:
> 1.3-SNAPSHOT is what I see in my records.
> Hope that helps...
>
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 04/05/2012, at 4:58 AM, Louis Smith wrote:
>>
>>> I was going through my archive to find the reference, and got the same
>> one
>>> you had.
>>>
>>> If I recall Correctly (which is rare...) I was able to rebuild redback
>> and
>>> pop it into my 1.4.1-SNAPSHOT build of Continuum - and I've been running
>>> that for at least a year now.
>>
>> Did you use 1.3, or a snapshot of trunk at some point in between where it
>> is now and 1.3?
>>
>> That'd be helpful to know, as one of the things on the list was:
>>
>> "Probably the first thing to try is to see if Redback 1.3 is suitable to
>> drop in. Trunk is currently looking at 1.3-M2-SNAPSHOT, so it needs to be
>> updated. There may be some incompatible changes (and certainly 1.4 is far
>> more significant). If that becomes a problem, the other option is to
>> release off the 1.3-Mx branch with the required changes."
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Brett
>>
>> --
>> Brett Porter
>> brett@apache.org
>> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
>> http://twitter.com/brettporter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Louis Smith, ThD
> Chief Technology Officer, Kyra InfoTech
> Colonel, Commemorative Air Force
--
Brett Porter
brett@apache.org
http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
http://twitter.com/brettporter
Re: what is needed for a 1.4.1 release (was: Move Continuum to Attic?)
Posted by Louis Smith <dr...@gmail.com>.
1.3-SNAPSHOT is what I see in my records.
Hope that helps...
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 04/05/2012, at 4:58 AM, Louis Smith wrote:
>
> > I was going through my archive to find the reference, and got the same
> one
> > you had.
> >
> > If I recall Correctly (which is rare...) I was able to rebuild redback
> and
> > pop it into my 1.4.1-SNAPSHOT build of Continuum - and I've been running
> > that for at least a year now.
>
> Did you use 1.3, or a snapshot of trunk at some point in between where it
> is now and 1.3?
>
> That'd be helpful to know, as one of the things on the list was:
>
> "Probably the first thing to try is to see if Redback 1.3 is suitable to
> drop in. Trunk is currently looking at 1.3-M2-SNAPSHOT, so it needs to be
> updated. There may be some incompatible changes (and certainly 1.4 is far
> more significant). If that becomes a problem, the other option is to
> release off the 1.3-Mx branch with the required changes."
>
> Cheers,
> Brett
>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
> http://twitter.com/brettporter
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Dr. Louis Smith, ThD
Chief Technology Officer, Kyra InfoTech
Colonel, Commemorative Air Force
Re: what is needed for a 1.4.1 release (was: Move Continuum to Attic?)
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
On 04/05/2012, at 4:58 AM, Louis Smith wrote:
> I was going through my archive to find the reference, and got the same one
> you had.
>
> If I recall Correctly (which is rare...) I was able to rebuild redback and
> pop it into my 1.4.1-SNAPSHOT build of Continuum - and I've been running
> that for at least a year now.
Did you use 1.3, or a snapshot of trunk at some point in between where it is now and 1.3?
That'd be helpful to know, as one of the things on the list was:
"Probably the first thing to try is to see if Redback 1.3 is suitable to
drop in. Trunk is currently looking at 1.3-M2-SNAPSHOT, so it needs to be
updated. There may be some incompatible changes (and certainly 1.4 is far
more significant). If that becomes a problem, the other option is to
release off the 1.3-Mx branch with the required changes."
Cheers,
Brett
--
Brett Porter
brett@apache.org
http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
http://twitter.com/brettporter
Re: what is needed for a 1.4.1 release (was: Move Continuum to Attic?)
Posted by Louis Smith <dr...@gmail.com>.
I was going through my archive to find the reference, and got the same one
you had.
If I recall Correctly (which is rare...) I was able to rebuild redback and
pop it into my 1.4.1-SNAPSHOT build of Continuum - and I've been running
that for at least a year now.
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/REDBACK-248
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Brent Atkinson <br...@gmail.com>wrote:
> The empty password issue should have been fixed already. It should involve
> updating redback:
>
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/REDBACK-248
> On Apr 17, 2012 9:03 AM, "Brett Porter" <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 17/04/2012, at 9:50 PM, Louis Smith wrote:
> >
> > > I also agree on the 1.4.1GA. I will make time to help on that - but I
> > will
> > > need your guidance.
> >
> > Great!
> >
> > >
> > > From my memory, I recall that it will need (at least)
> > >
> > > - the fixed version of redback for blank passwords to LDAP
> >
> > Do you recall the issue # here?
> >
> > Probably the first thing to try is to see if Redback 1.3 is suitable to
> > drop in. Trunk is currently looking at 1.3-M2-SNAPSHOT, so it needs to be
> > updated. There may be some incompatible changes (and certainly 1.4 is far
> > more significant). If that becomes a problem, the other option is to
> > release off the 1.3-Mx branch with the required changes.
> >
> > > - database update scripts for 1.3.x to 1.4.x ( I may have those in my
> > > archive from when I did my upgrades to 1.4.x)
> >
> > I'm sure that this just works automatically - I did it on a few
> occasions.
> >
> > >
> > > I would very much prefer getting my clients up to the 1.4.x branch than
> > > converting them off the apache stack to mercurial/hudson.
> > >
> > > So... how do I get started?
> >
> > Once the redback snapshot is sorted out and any fixes you're willing to
> > integrate are in, it should be ready to go.
> >
> > The other thing people can do to help is identifying JIRA issues that
> > either can or should be fixed (whether in this or a subsequent point
> > release), and if possible helping with that.
> >
> > > Got some docs for me to read on how to push a
> > > release?
> >
> > That's something I can work with you on -
> > http://continuum.apache.org/development/release.html
> >
> > Most of that is straightforward - the main work there is in testing and
> > doing things like release notes.
> >
> > - Brett
> >
> > --
> > Brett Porter
> > brett@apache.org
> > http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> >
> >
>
--
Dr. Louis Smith, ThD
Chief Technology Officer, Kyra InfoTech
Colonel, Commemorative Air Force
Re: what is needed for a 1.4.1 release (was: Move Continuum to Attic?)
Posted by Brent Atkinson <br...@gmail.com>.
The empty password issue should have been fixed already. It should involve
updating redback:
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/REDBACK-248
On Apr 17, 2012 9:03 AM, "Brett Porter" <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 17/04/2012, at 9:50 PM, Louis Smith wrote:
>
> > I also agree on the 1.4.1GA. I will make time to help on that - but I
> will
> > need your guidance.
>
> Great!
>
> >
> > From my memory, I recall that it will need (at least)
> >
> > - the fixed version of redback for blank passwords to LDAP
>
> Do you recall the issue # here?
>
> Probably the first thing to try is to see if Redback 1.3 is suitable to
> drop in. Trunk is currently looking at 1.3-M2-SNAPSHOT, so it needs to be
> updated. There may be some incompatible changes (and certainly 1.4 is far
> more significant). If that becomes a problem, the other option is to
> release off the 1.3-Mx branch with the required changes.
>
> > - database update scripts for 1.3.x to 1.4.x ( I may have those in my
> > archive from when I did my upgrades to 1.4.x)
>
> I'm sure that this just works automatically - I did it on a few occasions.
>
> >
> > I would very much prefer getting my clients up to the 1.4.x branch than
> > converting them off the apache stack to mercurial/hudson.
> >
> > So... how do I get started?
>
> Once the redback snapshot is sorted out and any fixes you're willing to
> integrate are in, it should be ready to go.
>
> The other thing people can do to help is identifying JIRA issues that
> either can or should be fixed (whether in this or a subsequent point
> release), and if possible helping with that.
>
> > Got some docs for me to read on how to push a
> > release?
>
> That's something I can work with you on -
> http://continuum.apache.org/development/release.html
>
> Most of that is straightforward - the main work there is in testing and
> doing things like release notes.
>
> - Brett
>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
>
>
Re: what is needed for a 1.4.1 release (was: Move Continuum to Attic?)
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
On 17/04/2012, at 9:50 PM, Louis Smith wrote:
> I also agree on the 1.4.1GA. I will make time to help on that - but I will
> need your guidance.
Great!
>
> From my memory, I recall that it will need (at least)
>
> - the fixed version of redback for blank passwords to LDAP
Do you recall the issue # here?
Probably the first thing to try is to see if Redback 1.3 is suitable to drop in. Trunk is currently looking at 1.3-M2-SNAPSHOT, so it needs to be updated. There may be some incompatible changes (and certainly 1.4 is far more significant). If that becomes a problem, the other option is to release off the 1.3-Mx branch with the required changes.
> - database update scripts for 1.3.x to 1.4.x ( I may have those in my
> archive from when I did my upgrades to 1.4.x)
I'm sure that this just works automatically - I did it on a few occasions.
>
> I would very much prefer getting my clients up to the 1.4.x branch than
> converting them off the apache stack to mercurial/hudson.
>
> So... how do I get started?
Once the redback snapshot is sorted out and any fixes you're willing to integrate are in, it should be ready to go.
The other thing people can do to help is identifying JIRA issues that either can or should be fixed (whether in this or a subsequent point release), and if possible helping with that.
> Got some docs for me to read on how to push a
> release?
That's something I can work with you on - http://continuum.apache.org/development/release.html
Most of that is straightforward - the main work there is in testing and doing things like release notes.
- Brett
--
Brett Porter
brett@apache.org
http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
Re: Move Continuum to Attic?
Posted by Louis Smith <dr...@gmail.com>.
Brett:
Thanks for stepping in on this. I agree that continuum does what (my)
clients need - and that the 1.4.x branch has more features (like reporting)
and enhancements (like suppressed passwords in logs) that would make it
more valuable for all the current customers.
I also agree on the 1.4.1GA. I will make time to help on that - but I will
need your guidance.
>From my memory, I recall that it will need (at least)
- the fixed version of redback for blank passwords to LDAP
- database update scripts for 1.3.x to 1.4.x ( I may have those in my
archive from when I did my upgrades to 1.4.x)
I would very much prefer getting my clients up to the 1.4.x branch than
converting them off the apache stack to mercurial/hudson.
So... how do I get started? Got some docs for me to read on how to push a
release?
Looking forward to it (with only minor trepidation...)
Louis
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> Continuum is in an awkward spot, because it does enough for most people
> that use it, and not many opportunities for new people to get involved
> regularly.
>
> I think it's a good idea to complete a GA release of 1.4.1 - it has been
> stable for some time and has probably been stuck on folks wanting to do
> more rather than needing to for a release. I'm sure we still have three
> binding votes around should that effort be undertaken.
>
> Louis, are you able to help with that?
>
> Who else has some cycles?
>
> I have occasionally spoken to people that are interested in doing more to
> move it forward, but haven't yet had the time - now is a good time to step
> forward if that is you lurking out there.
>
> If a release happens, then beyond that we still need to revisit the
> question of the Attic. It is able to sustain a user community when there is
> no new development expected and states that it will be non-impactful to
> users. However, if there are people interested in seeing further
> development, I'd prefer to see them given the chance to try that first. My
> impression of the current developers is that there may just be enough
> available to provide oversight, but not new development without some others
> getting involved.
>
> Thanks,
> Brett
>
> On 11/04/2012, at 8:57 PM, Louis Smith wrote:
>
> > I definitely object. What needs to be done to get the 1.4.x branch
> moving
> > again? There are features in the 1.4 that my clients are waiting on
> (such
> > as reporting and the password suppression). I have one site with over
> 150
> > projects under the apache stack, and would really hate to have to convert
> > them all again.
> >
> > Louis
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:31 AM, Emmanuel Venisse <
> > emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Since long months, we have no activity on the project (no commit, no
> mail
> >> on dev@).
> >> What do you think about a move of the project to Attic?
> >>
> >> Emmanuel
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Louis Smith, ThD
> > Chief Technology Officer, Kyra InfoTech
> > Colonel, Commemorative Air Force
>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
> http://twitter.com/brettporter
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Dr. Louis Smith, ThD
Chief Technology Officer, Kyra InfoTech
Colonel, Commemorative Air Force
Re: Move Continuum to Attic?
Posted by Louis Smith <dr...@gmail.com>.
Thank you all! I'm reading through the information now - I can tell you -
the old man here is going to need guidance - but I'll do whatever I can on
this. I LOVE continuum and don't want to see it die off.
Looking forward to working with the team on this one.
Louis
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Marica Tan <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Continuum is in an awkward spot, because it does enough for most people
> > that use it, and not many opportunities for new people to get involved
> > regularly.
> >
> > I think it's a good idea to complete a GA release of 1.4.1 - it has been
> > stable for some time and has probably been stuck on folks wanting to do
> > more rather than needing to for a release. I'm sure we still have three
> > binding votes around should that effort be undertaken.
> >
>
> +1
>
> I started doing some clean up in 1.4.1 bucket but wasn't able to follow
> through. There are still 40 issues open so if any one can help to get the
> 1.4.1 GA out that will be great.
>
>
> > Louis, are you able to help with that?
> >
> > Who else has some cycles?
> >
> >
> I'll be happy to make some time to get the release out.
>
>
> > I have occasionally spoken to people that are interested in doing more to
> > move it forward, but haven't yet had the time - now is a good time to
> step
> > forward if that is you lurking out there.
> >
> > If a release happens, then beyond that we still need to revisit the
> > question of the Attic. It is able to sustain a user community when there
> is
> > no new development expected and states that it will be non-impactful to
> > users. However, if there are people interested in seeing further
> > development, I'd prefer to see them given the chance to try that first.
> My
> > impression of the current developers is that there may just be enough
> > available to provide oversight, but not new development without some
> others
> > getting involved.
> >
> >
> Agree.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Marica
>
--
Dr. Louis Smith, ThD
Chief Technology Officer, Kyra InfoTech
Colonel, Commemorative Air Force
Re: Move Continuum to Attic?
Posted by Marica Tan <ma...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> Continuum is in an awkward spot, because it does enough for most people
> that use it, and not many opportunities for new people to get involved
> regularly.
>
> I think it's a good idea to complete a GA release of 1.4.1 - it has been
> stable for some time and has probably been stuck on folks wanting to do
> more rather than needing to for a release. I'm sure we still have three
> binding votes around should that effort be undertaken.
>
+1
I started doing some clean up in 1.4.1 bucket but wasn't able to follow
through. There are still 40 issues open so if any one can help to get the
1.4.1 GA out that will be great.
> Louis, are you able to help with that?
>
> Who else has some cycles?
>
>
I'll be happy to make some time to get the release out.
> I have occasionally spoken to people that are interested in doing more to
> move it forward, but haven't yet had the time - now is a good time to step
> forward if that is you lurking out there.
>
> If a release happens, then beyond that we still need to revisit the
> question of the Attic. It is able to sustain a user community when there is
> no new development expected and states that it will be non-impactful to
> users. However, if there are people interested in seeing further
> development, I'd prefer to see them given the chance to try that first. My
> impression of the current developers is that there may just be enough
> available to provide oversight, but not new development without some others
> getting involved.
>
>
Agree.
Thanks,
--
Marica
Re: Move Continuum to Attic?
Posted by Deng Ching <oc...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> Continuum is in an awkward spot, because it does enough for most people
> that use it, and not many opportunities for new people to get involved
> regularly.
>
> I think it's a good idea to complete a GA release of 1.4.1 - it has been
> stable for some time and has probably been stuck on folks wanting to do
> more rather than needing to for a release. I'm sure we still have three
> binding votes around should that effort be undertaken.
> Louis, are you able to help with that?
>
> Who else has some cycles?
>
+1 to a GA release of 1.4.1. I'm not sure how much time I can spare but I'd
be happy to help push/drive the release out :)
>
> I have occasionally spoken to people that are interested in doing more to
> move it forward, but haven't yet had the time - now is a good time to step
> forward if that is you lurking out there.
>
> If a release happens, then beyond that we still need to revisit the
> question of the Attic. It is able to sustain a user community when there is
> no new development expected and states that it will be non-impactful to
> users. However, if there are people interested in seeing further
> development, I'd prefer to see them given the chance to try that first.
+1
Thanks,
Deng
> My impression of the current developers is that there may just be enough
> available to provide oversight, but not new development without some others
> getting involved.
> Thanks,
> Brett
>
> On 11/04/2012, at 8:57 PM, Louis Smith wrote:
>
> > I definitely object. What needs to be done to get the 1.4.x branch
> moving
> > again? There are features in the 1.4 that my clients are waiting on
> (such
> > as reporting and the password suppression). I have one site with over
> 150
> > projects under the apache stack, and would really hate to have to convert
> > them all again.
> >
> > Louis
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:31 AM, Emmanuel Venisse <
> > emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Since long months, we have no activity on the project (no commit, no
> mail
> >> on dev@).
> >> What do you think about a move of the project to Attic?
> >>
> >> Emmanuel
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Louis Smith, ThD
> > Chief Technology Officer, Kyra InfoTech
> > Colonel, Commemorative Air Force
>
> --
> Brett Porter
> brett@apache.org
> http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
> http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
> http://twitter.com/brettporter
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Move Continuum to Attic?
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
Continuum is in an awkward spot, because it does enough for most people that use it, and not many opportunities for new people to get involved regularly.
I think it's a good idea to complete a GA release of 1.4.1 - it has been stable for some time and has probably been stuck on folks wanting to do more rather than needing to for a release. I'm sure we still have three binding votes around should that effort be undertaken.
Louis, are you able to help with that?
Who else has some cycles?
I have occasionally spoken to people that are interested in doing more to move it forward, but haven't yet had the time - now is a good time to step forward if that is you lurking out there.
If a release happens, then beyond that we still need to revisit the question of the Attic. It is able to sustain a user community when there is no new development expected and states that it will be non-impactful to users. However, if there are people interested in seeing further development, I'd prefer to see them given the chance to try that first. My impression of the current developers is that there may just be enough available to provide oversight, but not new development without some others getting involved.
Thanks,
Brett
On 11/04/2012, at 8:57 PM, Louis Smith wrote:
> I definitely object. What needs to be done to get the 1.4.x branch moving
> again? There are features in the 1.4 that my clients are waiting on (such
> as reporting and the password suppression). I have one site with over 150
> projects under the apache stack, and would really hate to have to convert
> them all again.
>
> Louis
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:31 AM, Emmanuel Venisse <
> emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Since long months, we have no activity on the project (no commit, no mail
>> on dev@).
>> What do you think about a move of the project to Attic?
>>
>> Emmanuel
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Louis Smith, ThD
> Chief Technology Officer, Kyra InfoTech
> Colonel, Commemorative Air Force
--
Brett Porter
brett@apache.org
http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
http://twitter.com/brettporter
Re: Move Continuum to Attic?
Posted by Louis Smith <dr...@gmail.com>.
I definitely object. What needs to be done to get the 1.4.x branch moving
again? There are features in the 1.4 that my clients are waiting on (such
as reporting and the password suppression). I have one site with over 150
projects under the apache stack, and would really hate to have to convert
them all again.
Louis
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:31 AM, Emmanuel Venisse <
emmanuel.venisse@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Since long months, we have no activity on the project (no commit, no mail
> on dev@).
> What do you think about a move of the project to Attic?
>
> Emmanuel
>
--
Dr. Louis Smith, ThD
Chief Technology Officer, Kyra InfoTech
Colonel, Commemorative Air Force