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[HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Does anyone have a good example application (very simple, please) for
HiveMind? I would like to start using it and I just need a little nudge to
get me going. Like, how do I obtain a handle to a Registry object in the
first place to set it as the default? And, how many of these hivemind.xml
files am I going to have to have floating around? It appears as if I need
one for each package in my project, but only one can be in my jar file
located at /META-INF/hivemind.xml? Is this true? If so, packaging an
application could turn out to be rather tedious if I do indeed plan to
separate things out into these small, testable modules. I may be
misunderstanding the documentation, though. Anyway, if anyone has a good
starter application (maybe even with the entire project set up with an Ant
build script), I would be very appreciative. I sure wish I would have known
about hivemind before. It looks as if it does everything (and more) that my
little "business object factory" framework
(http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-2003/jw-0718-factory.html) does.
Re: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by ja...@carmanconsulting.com.
Well, I would love to get involved. This project sounds awesome! Is there
a good UML diagram or an introduction into the architecture of HiveMind yet?
I'll try to download the source from cvs and start poking around to see what
I can come up with. I plan to give a talk to our local users group
(Cincinnati Java Users Group www.cinjug.org) maybe next month about
HiveMind, so I really would like to get familiar with it. Thanks again for
your prompt replies (even though you weren't quite awake when you sent
them). :-)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>
To: "'Jakarta Commons Developers List'" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:12 AM
Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
> So I wasn't awake ...
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
> http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Howard M. Lewis Ship [mailto:hlship@comcast.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:29 AM
> > To: 'Jakarta Commons Developers List'
> > Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
> >
> >
> > We're working on the docs and are setup now to provide more
> > and better examples.
> >
> > HiveMind is very, very new. If it looks polished, that's a
> > compliment ... and reflects that many of the ideas in
> > HiveMind gestated inside Tapestry over the last couple of years.
> >
> > I'm using HiveMind at work ... I think of it largely as a
> > refactoring tool. Case study #1 is based on one usage of
> > HiveMind. However, its a proprietary application and completely huge.
> >
> > A module maps to a jar; you'll have multple packages in the
> > jar but only a single HiveMind module. If that's a problem,
> > one solution is to refactor your code into more small
> > modules. HiveMind really supports this well, since it
> > (effectively) adds a late binding, where module A defines the
> > interface, and module B supplies the implementation.
>
> And I've used this late binding capability to unravel a bad dependency
between layers in the code.
>
> >
> > Due to our current build process, we have a similar issue:
> > multiple logical modules that are packaged together as a
> > single JAR. In an ideal world, there would be a
> > ClassLoader.getTResourceInFolder("/META-INF/hivemind") ...
>
> That is, I wish I could use getResources() and pass in a folder name and
get all the files in that
> folder. ClassLoader.getResource() only works
> if you know exactly what you are looking for.
>
> Servlet API is similar, though a later version of Servlet API supports
methods for iterating over
> the list of files in a context folder.
>
> > but there isn't. Instead, we have "external descriptors", a
> > directory under WebLogic where we store the extra class
> > loaders; our servlet's registry bootstrap code processes all
> > the XML files there as well as those found normally. It works
> > well, but is not quite ideal for a clustered EAR deployment;
> > we'll want to graft something together for that soon.
> > Possibly, our build system will write a catalog of these
> > external descriptors into a central file.
> >
> > --
> > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> >
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
> http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Carman [mailto:james@carmanconsulting.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:46 PM
> > To: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> > Subject: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have a good example application (very simple,
> > please) for HiveMind? I would like to start using it and I
> > just need a little nudge to get me going. Like, how do I
> > obtain a handle to a Registry object in the first place to
> > set it as the default? And, how many of these hivemind.xml
> > files am I going to have to have floating around? It appears
> > as if I need one for each package in my project, but only one
> > can be in my jar file located at /META-INF/hivemind.xml? Is
> > this true? If so, packaging an application could turn out to
> > be rather tedious if I do indeed plan to separate things out
> > into these small, testable modules. I may be
> > misunderstanding the documentation, though. Anyway, if
> > anyone has a good starter application (maybe even with the
> > entire project set up with an Ant build script), I would be
> > very appreciative. I sure wish I would have known about
> > hivemind before. It looks as if it does everything (and
> > more) that my little "business object factory" framework
> > (http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-2003/jw-0718-factory
> .html) does.
>
>
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Re: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by ja...@carmanconsulting.com.
Well, I would love to get involved. This project sounds awesome! Is there
a good UML diagram or an introduction into the architecture of HiveMind yet?
I'll try to download the source from cvs and start poking around to see what
I can come up with. I plan to give a talk to our local users group
(Cincinnati Java Users Group www.cinjug.org) maybe next month about
HiveMind, so I really would like to get familiar with it. Thanks again for
your prompt replies (even though you weren't quite awake when you sent
them). :-)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>
To: "'Jakarta Commons Developers List'" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:12 AM
Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
> So I wasn't awake ...
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
> http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Howard M. Lewis Ship [mailto:hlship@comcast.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:29 AM
> > To: 'Jakarta Commons Developers List'
> > Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
> >
> >
> > We're working on the docs and are setup now to provide more
> > and better examples.
> >
> > HiveMind is very, very new. If it looks polished, that's a
> > compliment ... and reflects that many of the ideas in
> > HiveMind gestated inside Tapestry over the last couple of years.
> >
> > I'm using HiveMind at work ... I think of it largely as a
> > refactoring tool. Case study #1 is based on one usage of
> > HiveMind. However, its a proprietary application and completely huge.
> >
> > A module maps to a jar; you'll have multple packages in the
> > jar but only a single HiveMind module. If that's a problem,
> > one solution is to refactor your code into more small
> > modules. HiveMind really supports this well, since it
> > (effectively) adds a late binding, where module A defines the
> > interface, and module B supplies the implementation.
>
> And I've used this late binding capability to unravel a bad dependency
between layers in the code.
>
> >
> > Due to our current build process, we have a similar issue:
> > multiple logical modules that are packaged together as a
> > single JAR. In an ideal world, there would be a
> > ClassLoader.getTResourceInFolder("/META-INF/hivemind") ...
>
> That is, I wish I could use getResources() and pass in a folder name and
get all the files in that
> folder. ClassLoader.getResource() only works
> if you know exactly what you are looking for.
>
> Servlet API is similar, though a later version of Servlet API supports
methods for iterating over
> the list of files in a context folder.
>
> > but there isn't. Instead, we have "external descriptors", a
> > directory under WebLogic where we store the extra class
> > loaders; our servlet's registry bootstrap code processes all
> > the XML files there as well as those found normally. It works
> > well, but is not quite ideal for a clustered EAR deployment;
> > we'll want to graft something together for that soon.
> > Possibly, our build system will write a catalog of these
> > external descriptors into a central file.
> >
> > --
> > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> >
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
> http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Carman [mailto:james@carmanconsulting.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:46 PM
> > To: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> > Subject: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have a good example application (very simple,
> > please) for HiveMind? I would like to start using it and I
> > just need a little nudge to get me going. Like, how do I
> > obtain a handle to a Registry object in the first place to
> > set it as the default? And, how many of these hivemind.xml
> > files am I going to have to have floating around? It appears
> > as if I need one for each package in my project, but only one
> > can be in my jar file located at /META-INF/hivemind.xml? Is
> > this true? If so, packaging an application could turn out to
> > be rather tedious if I do indeed plan to separate things out
> > into these small, testable modules. I may be
> > misunderstanding the documentation, though. Anyway, if
> > anyone has a good starter application (maybe even with the
> > entire project set up with an Ant build script), I would be
> > very appreciative. I sure wish I would have known about
> > hivemind before. It looks as if it does everything (and
> > more) that my little "business object factory" framework
> > (http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-2003/jw-0718-factory
> .html) does.
>
>
>
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RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>.
So I wasn't awake ...
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Howard M. Lewis Ship [mailto:hlship@comcast.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:29 AM
> To: 'Jakarta Commons Developers List'
> Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
>
>
> We're working on the docs and are setup now to provide more
> and better examples.
>
> HiveMind is very, very new. If it looks polished, that's a
> compliment ... and reflects that many of the ideas in
> HiveMind gestated inside Tapestry over the last couple of years.
>
> I'm using HiveMind at work ... I think of it largely as a
> refactoring tool. Case study #1 is based on one usage of
> HiveMind. However, its a proprietary application and completely huge.
>
> A module maps to a jar; you'll have multple packages in the
> jar but only a single HiveMind module. If that's a problem,
> one solution is to refactor your code into more small
> modules. HiveMind really supports this well, since it
> (effectively) adds a late binding, where module A defines the
> interface, and module B supplies the implementation.
And I've used this late binding capability to unravel a bad dependency between layers in the code.
>
> Due to our current build process, we have a similar issue:
> multiple logical modules that are packaged together as a
> single JAR. In an ideal world, there would be a
> ClassLoader.getTResourceInFolder("/META-INF/hivemind") ...
That is, I wish I could use getResources() and pass in a folder name and get all the files in that
folder. ClassLoader.getResource() only works
if you know exactly what you are looking for.
Servlet API is similar, though a later version of Servlet API supports methods for iterating over
the list of files in a context folder.
> but there isn't. Instead, we have "external descriptors", a
> directory under WebLogic where we store the extra class
> loaders; our servlet's registry bootstrap code processes all
> the XML files there as well as those found normally. It works
> well, but is not quite ideal for a clustered EAR deployment;
> we'll want to graft something together for that soon.
> Possibly, our build system will write a catalog of these
> external descriptors into a central file.
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Carman [mailto:james@carmanconsulting.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:46 PM
> To: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
>
>
> Does anyone have a good example application (very simple,
> please) for HiveMind? I would like to start using it and I
> just need a little nudge to get me going. Like, how do I
> obtain a handle to a Registry object in the first place to
> set it as the default? And, how many of these hivemind.xml
> files am I going to have to have floating around? It appears
> as if I need one for each package in my project, but only one
> can be in my jar file located at /META-INF/hivemind.xml? Is
> this true? If so, packaging an application could turn out to
> be rather tedious if I do indeed plan to separate things out
> into these small, testable modules. I may be
> misunderstanding the documentation, though. Anyway, if
> anyone has a good starter application (maybe even with the
> entire project set up with an Ant build script), I would be
> very appreciative. I sure wish I would have known about
> hivemind before. It looks as if it does everything (and
> more) that my little "business object factory" framework
> (http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-2003/jw-0718-factory
.html) does.
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RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>.
So I wasn't awake ...
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Howard M. Lewis Ship [mailto:hlship@comcast.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 7:29 AM
> To: 'Jakarta Commons Developers List'
> Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
>
>
> We're working on the docs and are setup now to provide more
> and better examples.
>
> HiveMind is very, very new. If it looks polished, that's a
> compliment ... and reflects that many of the ideas in
> HiveMind gestated inside Tapestry over the last couple of years.
>
> I'm using HiveMind at work ... I think of it largely as a
> refactoring tool. Case study #1 is based on one usage of
> HiveMind. However, its a proprietary application and completely huge.
>
> A module maps to a jar; you'll have multple packages in the
> jar but only a single HiveMind module. If that's a problem,
> one solution is to refactor your code into more small
> modules. HiveMind really supports this well, since it
> (effectively) adds a late binding, where module A defines the
> interface, and module B supplies the implementation.
And I've used this late binding capability to unravel a bad dependency between layers in the code.
>
> Due to our current build process, we have a similar issue:
> multiple logical modules that are packaged together as a
> single JAR. In an ideal world, there would be a
> ClassLoader.getTResourceInFolder("/META-INF/hivemind") ...
That is, I wish I could use getResources() and pass in a folder name and get all the files in that
folder. ClassLoader.getResource() only works
if you know exactly what you are looking for.
Servlet API is similar, though a later version of Servlet API supports methods for iterating over
the list of files in a context folder.
> but there isn't. Instead, we have "external descriptors", a
> directory under WebLogic where we store the extra class
> loaders; our servlet's registry bootstrap code processes all
> the XML files there as well as those found normally. It works
> well, but is not quite ideal for a clustered EAR deployment;
> we'll want to graft something together for that soon.
> Possibly, our build system will write a catalog of these
> external descriptors into a central file.
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Carman [mailto:james@carmanconsulting.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:46 PM
> To: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
>
>
> Does anyone have a good example application (very simple,
> please) for HiveMind? I would like to start using it and I
> just need a little nudge to get me going. Like, how do I
> obtain a handle to a Registry object in the first place to
> set it as the default? And, how many of these hivemind.xml
> files am I going to have to have floating around? It appears
> as if I need one for each package in my project, but only one
> can be in my jar file located at /META-INF/hivemind.xml? Is
> this true? If so, packaging an application could turn out to
> be rather tedious if I do indeed plan to separate things out
> into these small, testable modules. I may be
> misunderstanding the documentation, though. Anyway, if
> anyone has a good starter application (maybe even with the
> entire project set up with an Ant build script), I would be
> very appreciative. I sure wish I would have known about
> hivemind before. It looks as if it does everything (and
> more) that my little "business object factory" framework
> (http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-2003/jw-0718-factory
.html) does.
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RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>.
We're working on the docs and are setup now to provide more and better examples.
HiveMind is very, very new. If it looks polished, that's a compliment ... and reflects that many of
the ideas in HiveMind gestated inside Tapestry over the last couple of years.
I'm using HiveMind at work ... I think of it largely as a refactoring tool. Case study #1 is based
on one usage of HiveMind. However, its a proprietary application and completely huge.
A module maps to a jar; you'll have multple packages in the jar but only a single HiveMind module.
If that's a problem, one solution is to refactor your code into more small modules. HiveMind really
supports this well, since it (effectively) adds a late binding, where module A defines the
interface, and module B supplies the implementation.
Due to our current build process, we have a similar issue: multiple logical modules that are
packaged together as a single JAR. In an ideal world, there would be a
ClassLoader.getTResourceInFolder("/META-INF/hivemind") ... but there isn't. Instead, we have
"external descriptors", a directory under WebLogic where we store the extra class loaders; our
servlet's registry bootstrap code processes all the XML files there as well as those found normally.
It works well, but is not quite ideal for a clustered EAR deployment; we'll want to graft something
together for that soon. Possibly, our build system will write a catalog of these external
descriptors into a central file.
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Carman [mailto:james@carmanconsulting.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:46 PM
> To: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
>
>
> Does anyone have a good example application (very simple,
> please) for HiveMind? I would like to start using it and I
> just need a little nudge to get me going. Like, how do I
> obtain a handle to a Registry object in the first place to
> set it as the default? And, how many of these hivemind.xml
> files am I going to have to have floating around? It appears
> as if I need one for each package in my project, but only one
> can be in my jar file located at /META-INF/hivemind.xml? Is
> this true? If so, packaging an application could turn out to
> be rather tedious if I do indeed plan to separate things out
> into these small, testable modules. I may be
> misunderstanding the documentation, though. Anyway, if
> anyone has a good starter application (maybe even with the
> entire project set up with an Ant build script), I would be
> very appreciative. I sure wish I would have known about
> hivemind before. It looks as if it does everything (and
> more) that my little "business object factory" framework
> (http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-2003/jw-0718-factory
.html) does.
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Re: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by ja...@carmanconsulting.com.
I think an xdoclet module for HiveMind would be WONDERFUL! That way, you
could describe services, extension-points, interceptors, etc. in the JavaDoc
comments of your class and have your module descriptor file generated for
you automagically! IMHO, anytime a descriptor file like that needs to be
created, there should be an XDoclet module for it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Johan Lindquist" <jo...@kawoo.co.uk>
To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
> Not sure if people have had enough of examples, but attached is a zip file
> with a simple (and probably buggy) xdoclet module for hivemind (with
> source) + the calculator example previously discussed implemented using
> it.
>
> Didn't want to inclde all the dependant jars but they are:
>
> - commons-collections-2.1.jar
> - commons-logging-1.0.3.jar
> - xjavadoc-1.0.jar
> - xdoclet-1.2b4.jar
>
> The ant target 'jar' will build all the necessary jars in ./release
>
> Mainly wondering what the interest in a hivemind xdoclet module would be?
>
> Johan
>
> --
> you too?
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Re: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by ja...@carmanconsulting.com.
I think an xdoclet module for HiveMind would be WONDERFUL! That way, you
could describe services, extension-points, interceptors, etc. in the JavaDoc
comments of your class and have your module descriptor file generated for
you automagically! IMHO, anytime a descriptor file like that needs to be
created, there should be an XDoclet module for it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Johan Lindquist" <jo...@kawoo.co.uk>
To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
> Not sure if people have had enough of examples, but attached is a zip file
> with a simple (and probably buggy) xdoclet module for hivemind (with
> source) + the calculator example previously discussed implemented using
> it.
>
> Didn't want to inclde all the dependant jars but they are:
>
> - commons-collections-2.1.jar
> - commons-logging-1.0.3.jar
> - xjavadoc-1.0.jar
> - xdoclet-1.2b4.jar
>
> The ant target 'jar' will build all the necessary jars in ./release
>
> Mainly wondering what the interest in a hivemind xdoclet module would be?
>
> Johan
>
> --
> you too?
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Re: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by Johan Lindquist <jo...@kawoo.co.uk>.
Realise now that the source for the xdoclet module didn't make it into the
email ... Will forward it tomorrow if anyone is interested as the zip is
left at work ...
Johan
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 18:52:02 +0200, Johan Lindquist <jo...@kawoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> Not sure if people have had enough of examples, but attached is a zip
> file
> with a simple (and probably buggy) xdoclet module for hivemind (with
> source) + the calculator example previously discussed implemented using
> it.
>
> Didn't want to inclde all the dependant jars but they are:
>
> - commons-collections-2.1.jar
> - commons-logging-1.0.3.jar
> - xjavadoc-1.0.jar
> - xdoclet-1.2b4.jar
>
> The ant target 'jar' will build all the necessary jars in ./release
>
> Mainly wondering what the interest in a hivemind xdoclet module would be?
>
> Johan
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Re: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by Johan Lindquist <jo...@kawoo.co.uk>.
Realise now that the source for the xdoclet module didn't make it into the
email ... Will forward it tomorrow if anyone is interested as the zip is
left at work ...
Johan
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 18:52:02 +0200, Johan Lindquist <jo...@kawoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> Not sure if people have had enough of examples, but attached is a zip
> file
> with a simple (and probably buggy) xdoclet module for hivemind (with
> source) + the calculator example previously discussed implemented using
> it.
>
> Didn't want to inclde all the dependant jars but they are:
>
> - commons-collections-2.1.jar
> - commons-logging-1.0.3.jar
> - xjavadoc-1.0.jar
> - xdoclet-1.2b4.jar
>
> The ant target 'jar' will build all the necessary jars in ./release
>
> Mainly wondering what the interest in a hivemind xdoclet module would be?
>
> Johan
>
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Re: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by Johan Lindquist <jo...@kawoo.co.uk>.
Yeap it does ... As i said, just a first go at it, but if you point it to
a bunch of classes, it will attempt to extract the services and extensions
contained in them and bundle that into a module dd ... It needs a lot of
work - no validation to ensure you are extending a already defined service
is done yet for example ...
Johan
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 13:16:43 -0400, <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> I would imagine. XDoclet can generate one ejb-jar.xml file from many EJB
> implementation bean sources, so I don't see why it couldn't.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>
> To: "'Jakarta Commons Developers List'" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:14 PM
> Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
>
>
>> Another lovely technology I haven't had a chance to investigate. I know
> people rave about XDoclet;
>> I had hoped that HiveMind was succinct enough not to need it. Can this
> generate a single module DD
>> from many classes that may define configurations and services?
>>
>> --
>> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
>> http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Johan Lindquist [mailto:johan@kawoo.co.uk]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:52 PM
>> > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
>> > Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
>> >
>> >
>> > Not sure if people have had enough of examples, but attached
>> > is a zip file
>> > with a simple (and probably buggy) xdoclet module for hivemind (with
>> > source) + the calculator example previously discussed
>> > implemented using
>> > it.
>> >
>> > Didn't want to inclde all the dependant jars but they are:
>> >
>> > - commons-collections-2.1.jar
>> > - commons-logging-1.0.3.jar
>> > - xjavadoc-1.0.jar
>> > - xdoclet-1.2b4.jar
>> >
>> > The ant target 'jar' will build all the necessary jars in ./release
>> >
>> > Mainly wondering what the interest in a hivemind xdoclet
>> > module would be?
>> >
>> > Johan
>> >
>> > --
>> > you too?
>> >
>>
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Re: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by Johan Lindquist <jo...@kawoo.co.uk>.
Yeap it does ... As i said, just a first go at it, but if you point it to
a bunch of classes, it will attempt to extract the services and extensions
contained in them and bundle that into a module dd ... It needs a lot of
work - no validation to ensure you are extending a already defined service
is done yet for example ...
Johan
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 13:16:43 -0400, <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> I would imagine. XDoclet can generate one ejb-jar.xml file from many EJB
> implementation bean sources, so I don't see why it couldn't.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>
> To: "'Jakarta Commons Developers List'" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:14 PM
> Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
>
>
>> Another lovely technology I haven't had a chance to investigate. I know
> people rave about XDoclet;
>> I had hoped that HiveMind was succinct enough not to need it. Can this
> generate a single module DD
>> from many classes that may define configurations and services?
>>
>> --
>> Howard M. Lewis Ship
>> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
>> http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Johan Lindquist [mailto:johan@kawoo.co.uk]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:52 PM
>> > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
>> > Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
>> >
>> >
>> > Not sure if people have had enough of examples, but attached
>> > is a zip file
>> > with a simple (and probably buggy) xdoclet module for hivemind (with
>> > source) + the calculator example previously discussed
>> > implemented using
>> > it.
>> >
>> > Didn't want to inclde all the dependant jars but they are:
>> >
>> > - commons-collections-2.1.jar
>> > - commons-logging-1.0.3.jar
>> > - xjavadoc-1.0.jar
>> > - xdoclet-1.2b4.jar
>> >
>> > The ant target 'jar' will build all the necessary jars in ./release
>> >
>> > Mainly wondering what the interest in a hivemind xdoclet
>> > module would be?
>> >
>> > Johan
>> >
>> > --
>> > you too?
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by ja...@carmanconsulting.com.
I would imagine. XDoclet can generate one ejb-jar.xml file from many EJB
implementation bean sources, so I don't see why it couldn't.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>
To: "'Jakarta Commons Developers List'" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:14 PM
Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
> Another lovely technology I haven't had a chance to investigate. I know
people rave about XDoclet;
> I had hoped that HiveMind was succinct enough not to need it. Can this
generate a single module DD
> from many classes that may define configurations and services?
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
> http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Johan Lindquist [mailto:johan@kawoo.co.uk]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:52 PM
> > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
> >
> >
> > Not sure if people have had enough of examples, but attached
> > is a zip file
> > with a simple (and probably buggy) xdoclet module for hivemind (with
> > source) + the calculator example previously discussed
> > implemented using
> > it.
> >
> > Didn't want to inclde all the dependant jars but they are:
> >
> > - commons-collections-2.1.jar
> > - commons-logging-1.0.3.jar
> > - xjavadoc-1.0.jar
> > - xdoclet-1.2b4.jar
> >
> > The ant target 'jar' will build all the necessary jars in ./release
> >
> > Mainly wondering what the interest in a hivemind xdoclet
> > module would be?
> >
> > Johan
> >
> > --
> > you too?
> >
>
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Re: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by ja...@carmanconsulting.com.
I would imagine. XDoclet can generate one ejb-jar.xml file from many EJB
implementation bean sources, so I don't see why it couldn't.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>
To: "'Jakarta Commons Developers List'" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:14 PM
Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
> Another lovely technology I haven't had a chance to investigate. I know
people rave about XDoclet;
> I had hoped that HiveMind was succinct enough not to need it. Can this
generate a single module DD
> from many classes that may define configurations and services?
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
> http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Johan Lindquist [mailto:johan@kawoo.co.uk]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:52 PM
> > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
> >
> >
> > Not sure if people have had enough of examples, but attached
> > is a zip file
> > with a simple (and probably buggy) xdoclet module for hivemind (with
> > source) + the calculator example previously discussed
> > implemented using
> > it.
> >
> > Didn't want to inclde all the dependant jars but they are:
> >
> > - commons-collections-2.1.jar
> > - commons-logging-1.0.3.jar
> > - xjavadoc-1.0.jar
> > - xdoclet-1.2b4.jar
> >
> > The ant target 'jar' will build all the necessary jars in ./release
> >
> > Mainly wondering what the interest in a hivemind xdoclet
> > module would be?
> >
> > Johan
> >
> > --
> > you too?
> >
>
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RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>.
Another lovely technology I haven't had a chance to investigate. I know people rave about XDoclet;
I had hoped that HiveMind was succinct enough not to need it. Can this generate a single module DD
from many classes that may define configurations and services?
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johan Lindquist [mailto:johan@kawoo.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:52 PM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
>
>
> Not sure if people have had enough of examples, but attached
> is a zip file
> with a simple (and probably buggy) xdoclet module for hivemind (with
> source) + the calculator example previously discussed
> implemented using
> it.
>
> Didn't want to inclde all the dependant jars but they are:
>
> - commons-collections-2.1.jar
> - commons-logging-1.0.3.jar
> - xjavadoc-1.0.jar
> - xdoclet-1.2b4.jar
>
> The ant target 'jar' will build all the necessary jars in ./release
>
> Mainly wondering what the interest in a hivemind xdoclet
> module would be?
>
> Johan
>
> --
> you too?
>
RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>.
Another lovely technology I haven't had a chance to investigate. I know people rave about XDoclet;
I had hoped that HiveMind was succinct enough not to need it. Can this generate a single module DD
from many classes that may define configurations and services?
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johan Lindquist [mailto:johan@kawoo.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:52 PM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
>
>
> Not sure if people have had enough of examples, but attached
> is a zip file
> with a simple (and probably buggy) xdoclet module for hivemind (with
> source) + the calculator example previously discussed
> implemented using
> it.
>
> Didn't want to inclde all the dependant jars but they are:
>
> - commons-collections-2.1.jar
> - commons-logging-1.0.3.jar
> - xjavadoc-1.0.jar
> - xdoclet-1.2b4.jar
>
> The ant target 'jar' will build all the necessary jars in ./release
>
> Mainly wondering what the interest in a hivemind xdoclet
> module would be?
>
> Johan
>
> --
> you too?
>
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RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by Johan Lindquist <jo...@kawoo.co.uk>.
Not sure if people have had enough of examples, but attached is a zip file
with a simple (and probably buggy) xdoclet module for hivemind (with
source) + the calculator example previously discussed implemented using
it.
Didn't want to inclde all the dependant jars but they are:
- commons-collections-2.1.jar
- commons-logging-1.0.3.jar
- xjavadoc-1.0.jar
- xdoclet-1.2b4.jar
The ant target 'jar' will build all the necessary jars in ./release
Mainly wondering what the interest in a hivemind xdoclet module would be?
Johan
--
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Re: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by ja...@carmanconsulting.com.
I would love to write the article! When do they want it?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>
To: "'Jakarta Commons Developers List'" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
> HiveMind really is similar to the framework you described in the
article --- honest, I never saw
> your article before!
>
> For me, HiveMind is about eliminating boring plumbing code, like the
static factory classes.
> HiveMind is the uber-factory. It's also the inter-jar glue and does all
your XML parsing for you.
>
> ... looks like you have another article to write! Dion at TSS was looking
for an article on
> HiveMind; perhaps we should hook you guys up (or anyone else who wants to
take a crack). My dance
> card is full right now.
>
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
> http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Carman [mailto:james@carmanconsulting.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:46 PM
> > To: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> > Subject: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have a good example application (very simple,
> > please) for HiveMind? I would like to start using it and I
> > just need a little nudge to get me going. Like, how do I
> > obtain a handle to a Registry object in the first place to
> > set it as the default? And, how many of these hivemind.xml
> > files am I going to have to have floating around? It appears
> > as if I need one for each package in my project, but only one
> > can be in my jar file located at /META-INF/hivemind.xml? Is
> > this true? If so, packaging an application could turn out to
> > be rather tedious if I do indeed plan to separate things out
> > into these small, testable modules. I may be
> > misunderstanding the documentation, though. Anyway, if
> > anyone has a good starter application (maybe even with the
> > entire project set up with an Ant build script), I would be
> > very appreciative. I sure wish I would have known about
> > hivemind before. It looks as if it does everything (and
> > more) that my little "business object factory" framework
> > (http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-2003/jw-0718-factory
> .html) does.
>
>
>
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Re: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by ja...@carmanconsulting.com.
I would love to write the article! When do they want it?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>
To: "'Jakarta Commons Developers List'" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
> HiveMind really is similar to the framework you described in the
article --- honest, I never saw
> your article before!
>
> For me, HiveMind is about eliminating boring plumbing code, like the
static factory classes.
> HiveMind is the uber-factory. It's also the inter-jar glue and does all
your XML parsing for you.
>
> ... looks like you have another article to write! Dion at TSS was looking
for an article on
> HiveMind; perhaps we should hook you guys up (or anyone else who wants to
take a crack). My dance
> card is full right now.
>
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
> http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Carman [mailto:james@carmanconsulting.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:46 PM
> > To: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> > Subject: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have a good example application (very simple,
> > please) for HiveMind? I would like to start using it and I
> > just need a little nudge to get me going. Like, how do I
> > obtain a handle to a Registry object in the first place to
> > set it as the default? And, how many of these hivemind.xml
> > files am I going to have to have floating around? It appears
> > as if I need one for each package in my project, but only one
> > can be in my jar file located at /META-INF/hivemind.xml? Is
> > this true? If so, packaging an application could turn out to
> > be rather tedious if I do indeed plan to separate things out
> > into these small, testable modules. I may be
> > misunderstanding the documentation, though. Anyway, if
> > anyone has a good starter application (maybe even with the
> > entire project set up with an Ant build script), I would be
> > very appreciative. I sure wish I would have known about
> > hivemind before. It looks as if it does everything (and
> > more) that my little "business object factory" framework
> > (http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-2003/jw-0718-factory
> .html) does.
>
>
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RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>.
HiveMind really is similar to the framework you described in the article --- honest, I never saw
your article before!
For me, HiveMind is about eliminating boring plumbing code, like the static factory classes.
HiveMind is the uber-factory. It's also the inter-jar glue and does all your XML parsing for you.
... looks like you have another article to write! Dion at TSS was looking for an article on
HiveMind; perhaps we should hook you guys up (or anyone else who wants to take a crack). My dance
card is full right now.
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Carman [mailto:james@carmanconsulting.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:46 PM
> To: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
>
>
> Does anyone have a good example application (very simple,
> please) for HiveMind? I would like to start using it and I
> just need a little nudge to get me going. Like, how do I
> obtain a handle to a Registry object in the first place to
> set it as the default? And, how many of these hivemind.xml
> files am I going to have to have floating around? It appears
> as if I need one for each package in my project, but only one
> can be in my jar file located at /META-INF/hivemind.xml? Is
> this true? If so, packaging an application could turn out to
> be rather tedious if I do indeed plan to separate things out
> into these small, testable modules. I may be
> misunderstanding the documentation, though. Anyway, if
> anyone has a good starter application (maybe even with the
> entire project set up with an Ant build script), I would be
> very appreciative. I sure wish I would have known about
> hivemind before. It looks as if it does everything (and
> more) that my little "business object factory" framework
> (http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-2003/jw-0718-factory
.html) does.
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RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>.
HiveMind really is similar to the framework you described in the article --- honest, I never saw
your article before!
For me, HiveMind is about eliminating boring plumbing code, like the static factory classes.
HiveMind is the uber-factory. It's also the inter-jar glue and does all your XML parsing for you.
... looks like you have another article to write! Dion at TSS was looking for an article on
HiveMind; perhaps we should hook you guys up (or anyone else who wants to take a crack). My dance
card is full right now.
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Carman [mailto:james@carmanconsulting.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:46 PM
> To: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
>
>
> Does anyone have a good example application (very simple,
> please) for HiveMind? I would like to start using it and I
> just need a little nudge to get me going. Like, how do I
> obtain a handle to a Registry object in the first place to
> set it as the default? And, how many of these hivemind.xml
> files am I going to have to have floating around? It appears
> as if I need one for each package in my project, but only one
> can be in my jar file located at /META-INF/hivemind.xml? Is
> this true? If so, packaging an application could turn out to
> be rather tedious if I do indeed plan to separate things out
> into these small, testable modules. I may be
> misunderstanding the documentation, though. Anyway, if
> anyone has a good starter application (maybe even with the
> entire project set up with an Ant build script), I would be
> very appreciative. I sure wish I would have known about
> hivemind before. It looks as if it does everything (and
> more) that my little "business object factory" framework
> (http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-2003/jw-0718-factory
.html) does.
RE: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>.
We're working on the docs and are setup now to provide more and better examples.
HiveMind is very, very new. If it looks polished, that's a compliment ... and reflects that many of
the ideas in HiveMind gestated inside Tapestry over the last couple of years.
I'm using HiveMind at work ... I think of it largely as a refactoring tool. Case study #1 is based
on one usage of HiveMind. However, its a proprietary application and completely huge.
A module maps to a jar; you'll have multple packages in the jar but only a single HiveMind module.
If that's a problem, one solution is to refactor your code into more small modules. HiveMind really
supports this well, since it (effectively) adds a late binding, where module A defines the
interface, and module B supplies the implementation.
Due to our current build process, we have a similar issue: multiple logical modules that are
packaged together as a single JAR. In an ideal world, there would be a
ClassLoader.getTResourceInFolder("/META-INF/hivemind") ... but there isn't. Instead, we have
"external descriptors", a directory under WebLogic where we store the extra class loaders; our
servlet's registry bootstrap code processes all the XML files there as well as those found normally.
It works well, but is not quite ideal for a clustered EAR deployment; we'll want to graft something
together for that soon. Possibly, our build system will write a catalog of these external
descriptors into a central file.
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Carman [mailto:james@carmanconsulting.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:46 PM
> To: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [HIVEMIND] Examples Please?
>
>
> Does anyone have a good example application (very simple,
> please) for HiveMind? I would like to start using it and I
> just need a little nudge to get me going. Like, how do I
> obtain a handle to a Registry object in the first place to
> set it as the default? And, how many of these hivemind.xml
> files am I going to have to have floating around? It appears
> as if I need one for each package in my project, but only one
> can be in my jar file located at /META-INF/hivemind.xml? Is
> this true? If so, packaging an application could turn out to
> be rather tedious if I do indeed plan to separate things out
> into these small, testable modules. I may be
> misunderstanding the documentation, though. Anyway, if
> anyone has a good starter application (maybe even with the
> entire project set up with an Ant build script), I would be
> very appreciative. I sure wish I would have known about
> hivemind before. It looks as if it does everything (and
> more) that my little "business object factory" framework
> (http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-2003/jw-0718-factory
.html) does.