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Posted to users@cocoon.apache.org by Richard In Public <ed...@blueyonder.co.uk> on 2003/04/08 14:33:42 UTC
Re: CmdLine not honouring web.xml parameters?
Hi Upayavira
Thanks for the update.
I must admit that I have forgone the command line interface in favour of
WinHTTTrack (http://www.httrack.com/index.php), as recommended a while back
on this mailing list. CLI was so much hard work and this open-source app
works like a charm. Most importantly, it doesn't require me to modify my
code (e.g. dropping pooling) when generating static sites.
I am wondering what advantages/functionality the CLI could provide over a
tool such as this?
Regards,
Richard
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From: "Upayavira" <uv...@upaya.co.uk>
To: "Richard In Public" <ed...@blueyonder.co.uk>;
<co...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: CmdLine not honouring web.xml parameters?
> Richard,
>
> I have spent some time pouring over the code of the command line
interface. The
> parameters that Tomcat gets from web.xml need to be provided to the
command
> line interface as command line parameters. However, I do not recall an
option to
> force-load classes, which would be required for JDBC drivers.
>
> It shouldn't be too hard to do - just copy some code over from the
CocoonServlet
> to the Main.java. I'll see if I can come up with a patch this weekend.
>
> As I've not been able to get JDBC to work very well myself, I may not be
able to
> test it very well, though.
>
> As a short term solution, you can specify the dburl, driver, user and
password
> using <esql:driver>, <esql:dburl>, <esql:username> and <esql:password>
within
> your <esql:connection>. This will avoid the reference in web.xml. It
looses your
> connection pooling, but it should work.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Regards, Upayavira
>
>
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Re: CmdLine not honouring web.xml parameters?
Posted by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@anyware-tech.com>.
Richard In Public wrote:
>Hi Upayavira
>
>Thanks for the update.
>
>I must admit that I have forgone the command line interface in favour of
>WinHTTTrack (http://www.httrack.com/index.php), as recommended a while back
>on this mailing list. CLI was so much hard work and this open-source app
>works like a charm. Most importantly, it doesn't require me to modify my
>code (e.g. dropping pooling) when generating static sites.
>
>I am wondering what advantages/functionality the CLI could provide over a
>tool such as this?
>
The main advantage is that you don't need a runing servlet engine to
generate your site, and can easily integrate this in an Ant build file.
Sylvain
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Re: CmdLine not honouring web.xml parameters?
Posted by Richard In Public <ed...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
Whoops! I actually meant to offer to test for you. I will make some time
to do so.
Regards,
Richard
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From: "Upayavira" <uv...@upaya.co.uk>
To: <co...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: CmdLine not honouring web.xml parameters?
> > Hey. I finally managed to make a contribution :-)
>
> How about making another contribution - test it for me!!
>
> > These may be of interest to you. Perhaps you could save yourself some
> > work by providing Avalon/Cocoon component interfaces onto these.
> > Don't know whether there are ASF issues here...
>
> The way I plan to do it is to use ModifiableSources to write to. Anything
that has a
> modifiableSource can be written to. So, if someone creates a subversion or
an SFTP
> ModifiableSource, it'll work. If there are Java interfaces to these, then
creating a
> modifiable source shouldn't be hard.
>
> > 1. Subversion: Next generation CVS. Anyone who doesn't know about
> > this project may want to check it out. (http://subversion.tigris.org)
> > - Would be great to support connectivity for this...
> >
> > 2. SFTP Eclipse Plugin: SFTP file Synchronization
> > (http://www.klomp.org/eclipse/org.klomp.eclipse.team.sftp/ )
> > - I've started using this plugin recently and am finding it very
> > useful.
>
> Is that different to Secure FTP? It has been suggested to create a VFS
source
> which would give access to a range of protocols, see
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/vfs/filesystems.html
>
> Regards, Upayavira
>
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Re: CmdLine not honouring web.xml parameters?
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@upaya.co.uk>.
> Hey. I finally managed to make a contribution :-)
How about making another contribution - test it for me!!
> These may be of interest to you. Perhaps you could save yourself some
> work by providing Avalon/Cocoon component interfaces onto these.
> Don't know whether there are ASF issues here...
The way I plan to do it is to use ModifiableSources to write to. Anything that has a
modifiableSource can be written to. So, if someone creates a subversion or an SFTP
ModifiableSource, it'll work. If there are Java interfaces to these, then creating a
modifiable source shouldn't be hard.
> 1. Subversion: Next generation CVS. Anyone who doesn't know about
> this project may want to check it out. (http://subversion.tigris.org)
> - Would be great to support connectivity for this...
>
> 2. SFTP Eclipse Plugin: SFTP file Synchronization
> (http://www.klomp.org/eclipse/org.klomp.eclipse.team.sftp/ )
> - I've started using this plugin recently and am finding it very
> useful.
Is that different to Secure FTP? It has been suggested to create a VFS source
which would give access to a range of protocols, see
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/vfs/filesystems.html
Regards, Upayavira
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Re: CmdLine not honouring web.xml parameters?
Posted by Richard In Public <ed...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
> Note - in the 2.1 CLI you can specify a class to load at startup, so you
can use SQL
> connections as necessary. (This is directly because of your having spotted
that
> problem). However, because I don't use SQL at all, I haven't tested the
code.
>
Hey. I finally managed to make a contribution :-)
> > I am wondering what advantages/functionality the CLI could provide
> > over a tool such as this?
>
> I think you've hit the nail on the head. What are the advantages? Why?
With the 2.0.4
> CLI, it is much easier to identify the disadvantages.
>
> My aim is to make the 2.1 CLI offer more than such things as WGET.
>
> Some of the benefits it could offer include:
> 1) The ability to write not just to files (e.g. to ftp servers, cvs
repositories, webdav
> servers, etc) using standard Cocoon/Avalon components
> 2) To only generate pages that have changed, reducing page generation time
and
> time spent on network traffic.
> 3) A java programmatic interface for site building, should you need one.
>
> These are the ones that come immediately to mind.
These may be of interest to you. Perhaps you could save yourself some work
by providing Avalon/Cocoon component interfaces onto these. Don't know
whether there are ASF issues here...
1. Subversion: Next generation CVS. Anyone who doesn't know about this
project may want to check it out. (http://subversion.tigris.org)
- Would be great to support connectivity for this...
2. SFTP Eclipse Plugin: SFTP file Synchronization
(http://www.klomp.org/eclipse/org.klomp.eclipse.team.sftp/ )
- I've started using this plugin recently and am finding it very useful.
Cheers,
Richard
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Re: CmdLine not honouring web.xml parameters?
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@upaya.co.uk>.
Richard,
> I must admit that I have forgone the command line interface in favour
> of WinHTTTrack (http://www.httrack.com/index.php), as recommended a
> while back on this mailing list. CLI was so much hard work and this
> open-source app works like a charm. Most importantly, it doesn't
> require me to modify my code (e.g. dropping pooling) when generating
> static sites.
I still use wget for some of my Cocoon work, I'm afraid, for similar reasons.
Note - in the 2.1 CLI you can specify a class to load at startup, so you can use SQL
connections as necessary. (This is directly because of your having spotted that
problem). However, because I don't use SQL at all, I haven't tested the code.
> I am wondering what advantages/functionality the CLI could provide
> over a tool such as this?
I think you've hit the nail on the head. What are the advantages? Why? With the 2.0.4
CLI, it is much easier to identify the disadvantages.
My aim is to make the 2.1 CLI offer more than such things as WGET.
Some of the benefits it could offer include:
1) The ability to write not just to files (e.g. to ftp servers, cvs repositories, webdav
servers, etc) using standard Cocoon/Avalon components
2) To only generate pages that have changed, reducing page generation time and
time spent on network traffic.
3) A java programmatic interface for site building, should you need one.
These are the ones that come immediately to mind.
Unfortunately, much of this is not available yet, so you are probably better off with
WinHTTTrack for the time being :-(
Regards, Upayavira
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