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Tomcat installation/deployment question
Hi,
We are intending to deploy our application on individual laptops
(to be used by field personnel who does not have internet connectivity
to connect to our central server). The idea is that a trimmed down
version of our core application will be deployed on individual laptops
running tomcat against a light weight Sybase database.
I wanted to see if you had any suggestions about -
1. How best to deploy the initial version (5.5) of Tomcat on
individual machines - We understand our options are Microsoft SMS, Java
Web Start application, shell script or Ant script to install Tomcat on
these laptop boxes. We are leaning towards Microsoft SMS since
(a) It can easily mass deploy the app to hundreds of machine
(b) It is currently used in our organization to deploy some asp
application.
If you believe there are downsides to this approach or other
approaches are better please let me know
2. How best to deploy the upgraded version (6.x or higher) - We
potentially could use the same approach as the first one, but wanted to
see if the opinion differs.
3. And finally the rollout of initial app and upgraded app
version. Again probably use the same approach as before but wanted to
throw this out there in case there are better ideas.
Please let me know your thoughts on this.
Sushil
RE: Tomcat installation/deployment question
Posted by "Sureka, Sushil" <Su...@dars.state.tx.us>.
Martin, thanks for the advise. We are already decided to move forward
with the decision to deploy on individual laptops. So yes we will have
sufficient hardware on laptop.
The question, what is the best way to put the tomcat installation and
upgrades, application installation and upgrades on the server. In other
words, question is not "if", but "how"
Sushil
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Gainty [mailto:mgainty@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:21 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
>
> you can install a server product (2003) on a laptop which has
> the requisite chip characteristics/sufficient ram
> (4gb)/sufficient diskspace(.25 tera) and sufficient
> clockspeed (in other words server hardware characteristics)
> to support that server
>
> Databases:
> You can configure your connection-string to point to the
> remote DB server and remote DBname which has a DBlistener
> installed e.g.
>
> private static Driver c_Driver = null;
> private static final String c_sDefaultDriverName =
> "oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver",
> private static final String c_sDefaultDBURL =
> "jdbc:oracle:thin:@host:Port:DBName",
>
> try {
> c_Driver = (Driver)Class.forName(
> c_sDriverName ).newInstance();
> }
> catch ( ClassNotFoundException cex )
> {
> }
>
> //set your properties here and then connect with the provided
> URL connection-string
> c_Driver.connect( c_sDBURL, props );
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sureka, Sushil" <Su...@dars.state.tx.us>
> To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:39 PM
> Subject: RE: Tomcat installation/deployment question
>
>
> Well we are not intending to use laptops to server multiple
> user. The idea is that the user who is logged in on the
> laptop would just work locally, when disconnected from
> network, and then we would synch up the database running on
> laptop with the central database.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin Gainty [mailto:mgainty@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:31 PM
> > To: Tomcat Users List
> > Subject: Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
> >
> > possibly better off with a server offering as specified in
> > documentation
> http://people.apache.org/~mturk/docs/article/ftwai.html
> > "For non server products like Windows 2000 Professional or
> Windows XP
> > the number of concurrent connections is limited to 10. This
> mean that
> > you can not use workstation products for production servers
> unless the
> > 10 connections limit will fulfil your needs. "
> >
> > M-
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sureka, Sushil" <Su...@dars.state.tx.us>
> > To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:00 PM
> > Subject: RE: Tomcat installation/deployment question
> >
> >
> > XP but there is no guarantee that they won't go to Vista in a year
> > timeframe.
> >
> > Sushil
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gabe Wong [mailto:gabrielw@ngasi.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:54 AM
> > > To: Tomcat Users List
> > > Subject: Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
> > >
> > > Sureka, Sushil wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > We are intending to deploy our application on
> > > individual laptops (to
> > > > be used by field personnel who does not have internet
> > > connectivity to
> > > > connect to our central server). The idea is that a trimmed down
> > > > version of our core application will be deployed on
> > > individual laptops
> > > > running tomcat against a light weight Sybase database.
> > > >
> > > > I wanted to see if you had any suggestions about - 1.
> How best to
> > > > deploy the initial version (5.5) of Tomcat on individual
> > machines -
> > > > We understand our options are Microsoft SMS, Java Web Start
> > > > application, shell script or Ant script to install Tomcat
> > on these
> > > > laptop boxes. We are leaning towards
> > > Microsoft SMS since
> > > > (a) It can easily mass deploy the app to hundreds of machine
> > > > (b) It is currently used in our organization to deploy some asp
> > > > application.
> > > > If you believe there are downsides to this approach or other
> > > > approaches are better please let me know
> > > >
> > > > 2. How best to deploy the upgraded version (6.x or higher) - We
> > > > potentially could use the same approach as the first one,
> > > but wanted
> > > > to see if the opinion differs.
> > > >
> > > > 3. And finally the rollout of initial app and upgraded
> > > app version.
> > > > Again probably use the same approach as before but wanted
> > to throw
> > > > this out there in case there are better ideas.
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know your thoughts on this.
> > > >
> > > > Sushil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Sushil,
> > >
> > > The Laptops I presume will be running Windows? If so which
> > version(s)?
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Gabe Wong
> > > NGASI AppServer Manager
> > > JAVA AUTOMATION and SaaS Enablement
> > > <a href=http://www.ngasi.com>http://www.ngasi.com</a>
> > > NEW! 8.0 - Centrally manage multiple physical servers
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
Posted by Martin Gainty <mg...@hotmail.com>.
you can install a server product (2003) on a laptop which has the requisite
chip characteristics/sufficient ram (4gb)/sufficient diskspace(.25 tera) and
sufficient clockspeed (in other words server hardware characteristics) to
support that server
Databases:
You can configure your connection-string to point to the remote DB server
and remote DBname which has a DBlistener installed e.g.
private static Driver c_Driver = null;
private static final String c_sDefaultDriverName =
"oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver",
private static final String c_sDefaultDBURL =
"jdbc:oracle:thin:@host:Port:DBName",
try {
c_Driver = (Driver)Class.forName(
c_sDriverName ).newInstance();
}
catch ( ClassNotFoundException cex )
{
}
//set your properties here and then connect with the provided URL
connection-string
c_Driver.connect( c_sDBURL, props );
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sureka, Sushil" <Su...@dars.state.tx.us>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: Tomcat installation/deployment question
Well we are not intending to use laptops to server multiple user. The
idea is that the user who is logged in on the laptop would just work
locally, when disconnected from network, and then we would synch up the
database running on laptop with the central database.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Gainty [mailto:mgainty@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:31 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
>
> possibly better off with a server offering as specified in
> documentation http://people.apache.org/~mturk/docs/article/ftwai.html
> "For non server products like Windows 2000 Professional or
> Windows XP the number of concurrent connections is limited to
> 10. This mean that you can not use workstation products for
> production servers unless the 10 connections limit will
> fulfil your needs. "
>
> M-
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sureka, Sushil" <Su...@dars.state.tx.us>
> To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:00 PM
> Subject: RE: Tomcat installation/deployment question
>
>
> XP but there is no guarantee that they won't go to Vista in a
> year timeframe.
>
> Sushil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gabe Wong [mailto:gabrielw@ngasi.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:54 AM
> > To: Tomcat Users List
> > Subject: Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
> >
> > Sureka, Sushil wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > We are intending to deploy our application on
> > individual laptops (to
> > > be used by field personnel who does not have internet
> > connectivity to
> > > connect to our central server). The idea is that a trimmed down
> > > version of our core application will be deployed on
> > individual laptops
> > > running tomcat against a light weight Sybase database.
> > >
> > > I wanted to see if you had any suggestions about - 1. How best to
> > > deploy the initial version (5.5) of Tomcat on individual
> machines -
> > > We understand our options are Microsoft SMS, Java Web Start
> > > application, shell script or Ant script to install Tomcat
> on these
> > > laptop boxes. We are leaning towards
> > Microsoft SMS since
> > > (a) It can easily mass deploy the app to hundreds of machine
> > > (b) It is currently used in our organization to deploy some asp
> > > application.
> > > If you believe there are downsides to this approach or other
> > > approaches are better please let me know
> > >
> > > 2. How best to deploy the upgraded version (6.x or higher) - We
> > > potentially could use the same approach as the first one,
> > but wanted
> > > to see if the opinion differs.
> > >
> > > 3. And finally the rollout of initial app and upgraded
> > app version.
> > > Again probably use the same approach as before but wanted
> to throw
> > > this out there in case there are better ideas.
> > >
> > > Please let me know your thoughts on this.
> > >
> > > Sushil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Sushil,
> >
> > The Laptops I presume will be running Windows? If so which
> version(s)?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > Gabe Wong
> > NGASI AppServer Manager
> > JAVA AUTOMATION and SaaS Enablement
> > <a href=http://www.ngasi.com>http://www.ngasi.com</a>
> > NEW! 8.0 - Centrally manage multiple physical servers
> >
> >
> >
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RE: Tomcat installation/deployment question
Posted by "Sureka, Sushil" <Su...@dars.state.tx.us>.
Well we are not intending to use laptops to server multiple user. The
idea is that the user who is logged in on the laptop would just work
locally, when disconnected from network, and then we would synch up the
database running on laptop with the central database.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Gainty [mailto:mgainty@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:31 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
>
> possibly better off with a server offering as specified in
> documentation http://people.apache.org/~mturk/docs/article/ftwai.html
> "For non server products like Windows 2000 Professional or
> Windows XP the number of concurrent connections is limited to
> 10. This mean that you can not use workstation products for
> production servers unless the 10 connections limit will
> fulfil your needs. "
>
> M-
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sureka, Sushil" <Su...@dars.state.tx.us>
> To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:00 PM
> Subject: RE: Tomcat installation/deployment question
>
>
> XP but there is no guarantee that they won't go to Vista in a
> year timeframe.
>
> Sushil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gabe Wong [mailto:gabrielw@ngasi.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:54 AM
> > To: Tomcat Users List
> > Subject: Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
> >
> > Sureka, Sushil wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > We are intending to deploy our application on
> > individual laptops (to
> > > be used by field personnel who does not have internet
> > connectivity to
> > > connect to our central server). The idea is that a trimmed down
> > > version of our core application will be deployed on
> > individual laptops
> > > running tomcat against a light weight Sybase database.
> > >
> > > I wanted to see if you had any suggestions about - 1. How best to
> > > deploy the initial version (5.5) of Tomcat on individual
> machines -
> > > We understand our options are Microsoft SMS, Java Web Start
> > > application, shell script or Ant script to install Tomcat
> on these
> > > laptop boxes. We are leaning towards
> > Microsoft SMS since
> > > (a) It can easily mass deploy the app to hundreds of machine
> > > (b) It is currently used in our organization to deploy some asp
> > > application.
> > > If you believe there are downsides to this approach or other
> > > approaches are better please let me know
> > >
> > > 2. How best to deploy the upgraded version (6.x or higher) - We
> > > potentially could use the same approach as the first one,
> > but wanted
> > > to see if the opinion differs.
> > >
> > > 3. And finally the rollout of initial app and upgraded
> > app version.
> > > Again probably use the same approach as before but wanted
> to throw
> > > this out there in case there are better ideas.
> > >
> > > Please let me know your thoughts on this.
> > >
> > > Sushil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Sushil,
> >
> > The Laptops I presume will be running Windows? If so which
> version(s)?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > Gabe Wong
> > NGASI AppServer Manager
> > JAVA AUTOMATION and SaaS Enablement
> > <a href=http://www.ngasi.com>http://www.ngasi.com</a>
> > NEW! 8.0 - Centrally manage multiple physical servers
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
Posted by Martin Gainty <mg...@hotmail.com>.
possibly better off with a server offering as specified in documentation
http://people.apache.org/~mturk/docs/article/ftwai.html
"For non server products like Windows 2000 Professional or Windows XP the
number of concurrent connections is limited to 10. This mean that you can
not use workstation products for production servers unless the 10
connections limit will fulfil your needs. "
M-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sureka, Sushil" <Su...@dars.state.tx.us>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <us...@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: Tomcat installation/deployment question
XP but there is no guarantee that they won't go to Vista in a year
timeframe.
Sushil
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gabe Wong [mailto:gabrielw@ngasi.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:54 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
>
> Sureka, Sushil wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > We are intending to deploy our application on
> individual laptops (to
> > be used by field personnel who does not have internet
> connectivity to
> > connect to our central server). The idea is that a trimmed down
> > version of our core application will be deployed on
> individual laptops
> > running tomcat against a light weight Sybase database.
> >
> > I wanted to see if you had any suggestions about -
> > 1. How best to deploy the initial version (5.5) of Tomcat on
> > individual machines - We understand our options are Microsoft SMS,
> > Java Web Start application, shell script or Ant script to install
> > Tomcat on these laptop boxes. We are leaning towards
> Microsoft SMS since
> > (a) It can easily mass deploy the app to hundreds of machine
> > (b) It is currently used in our organization to deploy some asp
> > application.
> > If you believe there are downsides to this approach or other
> > approaches are better please let me know
> >
> > 2. How best to deploy the upgraded version (6.x or higher) - We
> > potentially could use the same approach as the first one,
> but wanted
> > to see if the opinion differs.
> >
> > 3. And finally the rollout of initial app and upgraded
> app version.
> > Again probably use the same approach as before but wanted to throw
> > this out there in case there are better ideas.
> >
> > Please let me know your thoughts on this.
> >
> > Sushil
> >
> >
> >
> Sushil,
>
> The Laptops I presume will be running Windows? If so which version(s)?
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Gabe Wong
> NGASI AppServer Manager
> JAVA AUTOMATION and SaaS Enablement
> <a href=http://www.ngasi.com>http://www.ngasi.com</a>
> NEW! 8.0 - Centrally manage multiple physical servers
>
>
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RE: Tomcat installation/deployment question
Posted by "Sureka, Sushil" <Su...@dars.state.tx.us>.
XP but there is no guarantee that they won't go to Vista in a year
timeframe.
Sushil
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gabe Wong [mailto:gabrielw@ngasi.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:54 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
>
> Sureka, Sushil wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > We are intending to deploy our application on
> individual laptops (to
> > be used by field personnel who does not have internet
> connectivity to
> > connect to our central server). The idea is that a trimmed down
> > version of our core application will be deployed on
> individual laptops
> > running tomcat against a light weight Sybase database.
> >
> > I wanted to see if you had any suggestions about -
> > 1. How best to deploy the initial version (5.5) of Tomcat on
> > individual machines - We understand our options are Microsoft SMS,
> > Java Web Start application, shell script or Ant script to install
> > Tomcat on these laptop boxes. We are leaning towards
> Microsoft SMS since
> > (a) It can easily mass deploy the app to hundreds of machine
> > (b) It is currently used in our organization to deploy some asp
> > application.
> > If you believe there are downsides to this approach or other
> > approaches are better please let me know
> >
> > 2. How best to deploy the upgraded version (6.x or higher) - We
> > potentially could use the same approach as the first one,
> but wanted
> > to see if the opinion differs.
> >
> > 3. And finally the rollout of initial app and upgraded
> app version.
> > Again probably use the same approach as before but wanted to throw
> > this out there in case there are better ideas.
> >
> > Please let me know your thoughts on this.
> >
> > Sushil
> >
> >
> >
> Sushil,
>
> The Laptops I presume will be running Windows? If so which version(s)?
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Gabe Wong
> NGASI AppServer Manager
> JAVA AUTOMATION and SaaS Enablement
> <a href=http://www.ngasi.com>http://www.ngasi.com</a>
> NEW! 8.0 - Centrally manage multiple physical servers
>
>
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Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
Posted by Gabe Wong <ga...@ngasi.com>.
Sureka, Sushil wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> We are intending to deploy our application on individual laptops
> (to be used by field personnel who does not have internet connectivity
> to connect to our central server). The idea is that a trimmed down
> version of our core application will be deployed on individual laptops
> running tomcat against a light weight Sybase database.
>
> I wanted to see if you had any suggestions about -
> 1. How best to deploy the initial version (5.5) of Tomcat on
> individual machines - We understand our options are Microsoft SMS, Java
> Web Start application, shell script or Ant script to install Tomcat on
> these laptop boxes. We are leaning towards Microsoft SMS since
> (a) It can easily mass deploy the app to hundreds of machine
> (b) It is currently used in our organization to deploy some asp
> application.
> If you believe there are downsides to this approach or other
> approaches are better please let me know
>
> 2. How best to deploy the upgraded version (6.x or higher) - We
> potentially could use the same approach as the first one, but wanted to
> see if the opinion differs.
>
> 3. And finally the rollout of initial app and upgraded app
> version. Again probably use the same approach as before but wanted to
> throw this out there in case there are better ideas.
>
> Please let me know your thoughts on this.
>
> Sushil
>
>
>
Sushil,
The Laptops I presume will be running Windows? If so which version(s)?
--
Regards
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Re: Tomcat installation/deployment question
Posted by David Brown <da...@davidwbrown.name>.
Hello Sushil, IMHO: ANT 1.7 has much improved deployment features in the area of remote distributed deployments.
Sureka, Sushil wrote ..
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> Hi,
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> We are intending to deploy our application on individual laptops
> (to be used by field personnel who does not have internet connectivity
> to connect to our central server). The idea is that a trimmed down
> version of our core application will be deployed on individual laptops
> running tomcat against a light weight Sybase database.
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> I wanted to see if you had any suggestions about -
> 1. How best to deploy the initial version (5.5) of Tomcat on
> individual machines - We understand our options are Microsoft SMS, Java
> Web Start application, shell script or Ant script to install Tomcat on
> these laptop boxes. We are leaning towards Microsoft SMS since
> (a) It can easily mass deploy the app to hundreds of machine
> (b) It is currently used in our organization to deploy some asp
> application.
> If you believe there are downsides to this approach or other
> approaches are better please let me know
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> 2. How best to deploy the upgraded version (6.x or higher) - We
> potentially could use the same approach as the first one, but wanted to
> see if the opinion differs.
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> 3. And finally the rollout of initial app and upgraded app
> version. Again probably use the same approach as before but wanted to
> throw this out there in case there are better ideas.
>
> Please let me know your thoughts on this.
>
> Sushil
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