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Posted to java-user@axis.apache.org by Shasta Willson <sh...@gmail.com> on 2009/06/24 05:12:55 UTC
Next question...
Can someone tell me what .jar would contain
org.apache.axis2.jaxws.framework.JAXWSDeployer
I can't find it on the jar search engines I usually use.
I'm getting a ClassNotFound in my logs, followed by an NPE without an
obvious source a little later. I'm guessing something isn't getting
initialized correctly, even though the Deployer doesn't cause it to
fail immediately, and maybe putting the correct jar in place would
help.
Thank you,
Shasta
Re: Axis WS on mobile devices
Posted by Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu>.
Hi Dennis,
finally a good response - I appreciate it.
I concur with you on the J2ME compatibility issues, in fact I did
experience that first hand in
my current implementations. I am looking into JiBX now, I knew a few
things about it but not
at the level that I can comfortably say that this could be a good
solution for what I am after.
But from what you are saying below, this is a very promising direction
and it would be good
to give it a shot. This is open-source code right?
Thanks
Dennis Sosnoski wrote:
> Hi Demetris,
>
> Part of the problem is that J2ME compatibility is not the easiest
> thing to determine - it's not like you can just set a compiler option
> and have any compatibility problems reported during the build.
>
> JiBX used to work on mobile devices, though I think the J2ME
> compatibility for the runtime has been lost over the last year or two.
> If you'd like to give it a try, I'll look into fixing whatever needs
> to be changed (some uses of ArrayList and HashMap, from what I
> remember, along with some java.sql class references). You could then
> use the JiBX/WS web services support for your J2ME platform:
> http://jibx.sourceforge.net/jibxws/
>
> JiBX/WS is significantly faster than Axis2 when used for plain text
> web services, and if we decided to implement XBIS and TCP/IP support
> for J2ME as well it'd be several times faster.
>
> - Dennis
>
> Dennis M. Sosnoski
> XML and Web Services in Java
> Training and Consulting
> http://www.sosnoski.com - http://www.sosnoski.co.nz
> Seattle, WA +1-425-939-0576 - Wellington, NZ +64-4-298-6117
>
>
>
> Demetris G wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I asked this question before (twice) but I didn't get a single
>> response, interestingly enough.
>> I am assuming by now that there is no mobile version of Axis/Axis2
>> and all the stories I hear
>> about people getting Web services to work on mobiles is a fiction ...
>> Has anyone managed to run Web Services (servers primarily) on
>> mobile devices (either
>> CDC, CLDC, scripting, Web Runtime etc.)? I will appreciate any
>> feedback on something
>> like this.
>>
>> Thanks very much
>>
>
Re: Axis WS on mobile devices
Posted by Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu>.
One more note - I was able to get Axis 1.4 to run on a CDC device using
Jalimo and
Knopflerfish OSGi as the container but as expected it is fairly slow ...
So yes, such
options are out of the question.
Dennis Sosnoski wrote:
> Hi Demetris,
>
> Part of the problem is that J2ME compatibility is not the easiest
> thing to determine - it's not like you can just set a compiler option
> and have any compatibility problems reported during the build.
>
> JiBX used to work on mobile devices, though I think the J2ME
> compatibility for the runtime has been lost over the last year or two.
> If you'd like to give it a try, I'll look into fixing whatever needs
> to be changed (some uses of ArrayList and HashMap, from what I
> remember, along with some java.sql class references). You could then
> use the JiBX/WS web services support for your J2ME platform:
> http://jibx.sourceforge.net/jibxws/
>
> JiBX/WS is significantly faster than Axis2 when used for plain text
> web services, and if we decided to implement XBIS and TCP/IP support
> for J2ME as well it'd be several times faster.
>
> - Dennis
>
> Dennis M. Sosnoski
> XML and Web Services in Java
> Training and Consulting
> http://www.sosnoski.com - http://www.sosnoski.co.nz
> Seattle, WA +1-425-939-0576 - Wellington, NZ +64-4-298-6117
>
>
>
> Demetris G wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I asked this question before (twice) but I didn't get a single
>> response, interestingly enough.
>> I am assuming by now that there is no mobile version of Axis/Axis2
>> and all the stories I hear
>> about people getting Web services to work on mobiles is a fiction ...
>> Has anyone managed to run Web Services (servers primarily) on
>> mobile devices (either
>> CDC, CLDC, scripting, Web Runtime etc.)? I will appreciate any
>> feedback on something
>> like this.
>>
>> Thanks very much
>>
>
Re: Axis WS on mobile devices
Posted by Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu>.
I was expecting so - thanks Dennis - so my best bet to "emulate" Axis
engines (server/client
behavior) on mobile devices is not kSOAPx ;)
Dennis Sosnoski wrote:
> Hi Demetris,
>
> I haven't worked with kSOAP/kSOAP2 myself, but from what I remember it
> provides very basic support for SOAP messaging. So no, I don't think
> it handles code generation. :-(
>
> - Dennis
>
>
> Demetris G wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dennis,
>>
>> in case you know while I am still looking for good tutorials on
>> this - is the kSOAP/kSOAP2 engine
>> along the lines of Axis? I mean, beyond the general implementation of
>> the specification, does it offer
>> tools to generate stubs from WSDL files etc? I don't seem to be able
>> to find even these basic
>> documentations on their web site.
>>
>> Thanks very much
>>
>> Dennis Sosnoski wrote:
>>> Hi Demetris,
>>>
>>> kXML is the parser you'd use with JiBX for J2ME support. From what I
>>> know of kSOAP/kSOAP2 I suspect they'd be considerably lower
>>> performance than JiBX/WS, but if you're not anticipating a high
>>> message volume that shouldn't really matter. They'd probably also be
>>> more memory-intensive, though, and that might be more of an issue.
>>> Bottom line is probably that you should give them a try and see if
>>> they meet your needs.
>>>
>>> And yes, JiBX is open source with a BSD-style license.
>>>
>>> - Dennis
>>>
>>
>
Re: Axis WS on mobile devices
Posted by Dennis Sosnoski <dm...@sosnoski.com>.
Hi Demetris,
I haven't worked with kSOAP/kSOAP2 myself, but from what I remember it
provides very basic support for SOAP messaging. So no, I don't think it
handles code generation. :-(
- Dennis
Demetris G wrote:
>
> Hi Dennis,
>
> in case you know while I am still looking for good tutorials on
> this - is the kSOAP/kSOAP2 engine
> along the lines of Axis? I mean, beyond the general implementation of
> the specification, does it offer
> tools to generate stubs from WSDL files etc? I don't seem to be able
> to find even these basic
> documentations on their web site.
>
> Thanks very much
>
> Dennis Sosnoski wrote:
>> Hi Demetris,
>>
>> kXML is the parser you'd use with JiBX for J2ME support. From what I
>> know of kSOAP/kSOAP2 I suspect they'd be considerably lower
>> performance than JiBX/WS, but if you're not anticipating a high
>> message volume that shouldn't really matter. They'd probably also be
>> more memory-intensive, though, and that might be more of an issue.
>> Bottom line is probably that you should give them a try and see if
>> they meet your needs.
>>
>> And yes, JiBX is open source with a BSD-style license.
>>
>> - Dennis
>>
>
Re: Axis WS on mobile devices
Posted by Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu>.
Hi Dennis,
in case you know while I am still looking for good tutorials on this
- is the kSOAP/kSOAP2 engine
along the lines of Axis? I mean, beyond the general implementation of
the specification, does it offer
tools to generate stubs from WSDL files etc? I don't seem to be able to
find even these basic
documentations on their web site.
Thanks very much
Dennis Sosnoski wrote:
> Hi Demetris,
>
> kXML is the parser you'd use with JiBX for J2ME support. From what I
> know of kSOAP/kSOAP2 I suspect they'd be considerably lower
> performance than JiBX/WS, but if you're not anticipating a high
> message volume that shouldn't really matter. They'd probably also be
> more memory-intensive, though, and that might be more of an issue.
> Bottom line is probably that you should give them a try and see if
> they meet your needs.
>
> And yes, JiBX is open source with a BSD-style license.
>
> - Dennis
>
Re: Axis WS on mobile devices
Posted by Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu>.
Thanks Dennis - I will give them a shot and see what I can use from
them. I appreciate all the help so far.
Dennis Sosnoski wrote:
> Hi Demetris,
>
> kXML is the parser you'd use with JiBX for J2ME support. From what I
> know of kSOAP/kSOAP2 I suspect they'd be considerably lower
> performance than JiBX/WS, but if you're not anticipating a high
> message volume that shouldn't really matter. They'd probably also be
> more memory-intensive, though, and that might be more of an issue.
> Bottom line is probably that you should give them a try and see if
> they meet your needs.
>
> And yes, JiBX is open source with a BSD-style license.
>
> - Dennis
>
Re: Axis WS on mobile devices
Posted by Dennis Sosnoski <dm...@sosnoski.com>.
Hi Demetris,
kXML is the parser you'd use with JiBX for J2ME support. From what I
know of kSOAP/kSOAP2 I suspect they'd be considerably lower performance
than JiBX/WS, but if you're not anticipating a high message volume that
shouldn't really matter. They'd probably also be more memory-intensive,
though, and that might be more of an issue. Bottom line is probably that
you should give them a try and see if they meet your needs.
And yes, JiBX is open source with a BSD-style license.
- Dennis
--
Dennis M. Sosnoski
Java XML and Web Services
Axis2 Training and Consulting
http://www.sosnoski.com - http://www.sosnoski.co.nz
Seattle, WA +1-425-939-0576 - Wellington, NZ +64-4-298-6117
Demetris G wrote:
>
> Dennis - sorry for the multiple postings - do you have any experience
> with kSOAP/kSOAP2 and
> do you think that could also be a viable solution for hosting WS on
> J2ME devices?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dennis Sosnoski wrote:
>> Hi Demetris,
>>
>> Part of the problem is that J2ME compatibility is not the easiest
>> thing to determine - it's not like you can just set a compiler option
>> and have any compatibility problems reported during the build.
>>
>> JiBX used to work on mobile devices, though I think the J2ME
>> compatibility for the runtime has been lost over the last year or
>> two. If you'd like to give it a try, I'll look into fixing whatever
>> needs to be changed (some uses of ArrayList and HashMap, from what I
>> remember, along with some java.sql class references). You could then
>> use the JiBX/WS web services support for your J2ME platform:
>> http://jibx.sourceforge.net/jibxws/
>>
>> JiBX/WS is significantly faster than Axis2 when used for plain text
>> web services, and if we decided to implement XBIS and TCP/IP support
>> for J2ME as well it'd be several times faster.
>>
>> - Dennis
>>
>> Dennis M. Sosnoski
>> XML and Web Services in Java
>> Training and Consulting
>> http://www.sosnoski.com - http://www.sosnoski.co.nz
>> Seattle, WA +1-425-939-0576 - Wellington, NZ +64-4-298-6117
>>
>>
>>
>> Demetris G wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I asked this question before (twice) but I didn't get a single
>>> response, interestingly enough.
>>> I am assuming by now that there is no mobile version of Axis/Axis2
>>> and all the stories I hear
>>> about people getting Web services to work on mobiles is a fiction ...
>>> Has anyone managed to run Web Services (servers primarily) on
>>> mobile devices (either
>>> CDC, CLDC, scripting, Web Runtime etc.)? I will appreciate any
>>> feedback on something
>>> like this.
>>>
>>> Thanks very much
>>>
>>
Re: Axis WS on mobile devices
Posted by Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu>.
Dennis - sorry for the multiple postings - do you have any experience
with kSOAP/kSOAP2 and
do you think that could also be a viable solution for hosting WS on J2ME
devices?
Thanks
Dennis Sosnoski wrote:
> Hi Demetris,
>
> Part of the problem is that J2ME compatibility is not the easiest
> thing to determine - it's not like you can just set a compiler option
> and have any compatibility problems reported during the build.
>
> JiBX used to work on mobile devices, though I think the J2ME
> compatibility for the runtime has been lost over the last year or two.
> If you'd like to give it a try, I'll look into fixing whatever needs
> to be changed (some uses of ArrayList and HashMap, from what I
> remember, along with some java.sql class references). You could then
> use the JiBX/WS web services support for your J2ME platform:
> http://jibx.sourceforge.net/jibxws/
>
> JiBX/WS is significantly faster than Axis2 when used for plain text
> web services, and if we decided to implement XBIS and TCP/IP support
> for J2ME as well it'd be several times faster.
>
> - Dennis
>
> Dennis M. Sosnoski
> XML and Web Services in Java
> Training and Consulting
> http://www.sosnoski.com - http://www.sosnoski.co.nz
> Seattle, WA +1-425-939-0576 - Wellington, NZ +64-4-298-6117
>
>
>
> Demetris G wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I asked this question before (twice) but I didn't get a single
>> response, interestingly enough.
>> I am assuming by now that there is no mobile version of Axis/Axis2
>> and all the stories I hear
>> about people getting Web services to work on mobiles is a fiction ...
>> Has anyone managed to run Web Services (servers primarily) on
>> mobile devices (either
>> CDC, CLDC, scripting, Web Runtime etc.)? I will appreciate any
>> feedback on something
>> like this.
>>
>> Thanks very much
>>
>
Re: Axis WS on mobile devices
Posted by Dennis Sosnoski <dm...@sosnoski.com>.
Hi Demetris,
Part of the problem is that J2ME compatibility is not the easiest thing
to determine - it's not like you can just set a compiler option and have
any compatibility problems reported during the build.
JiBX used to work on mobile devices, though I think the J2ME
compatibility for the runtime has been lost over the last year or two.
If you'd like to give it a try, I'll look into fixing whatever needs to
be changed (some uses of ArrayList and HashMap, from what I remember,
along with some java.sql class references). You could then use the
JiBX/WS web services support for your J2ME platform:
http://jibx.sourceforge.net/jibxws/
JiBX/WS is significantly faster than Axis2 when used for plain text web
services, and if we decided to implement XBIS and TCP/IP support for
J2ME as well it'd be several times faster.
- Dennis
Dennis M. Sosnoski
XML and Web Services in Java
Training and Consulting
http://www.sosnoski.com - http://www.sosnoski.co.nz
Seattle, WA +1-425-939-0576 - Wellington, NZ +64-4-298-6117
Demetris G wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I asked this question before (twice) but I didn't get a single
> response, interestingly enough.
> I am assuming by now that there is no mobile version of Axis/Axis2 and
> all the stories I hear
> about people getting Web services to work on mobiles is a fiction ...
> Has anyone managed to run Web Services (servers primarily) on
> mobile devices (either
> CDC, CLDC, scripting, Web Runtime etc.)? I will appreciate any
> feedback on something
> like this.
>
> Thanks very much
>
Axis WS on mobile devices
Posted by Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu>.
Hi all,
I asked this question before (twice) but I didn't get a single
response, interestingly enough.
I am assuming by now that there is no mobile version of Axis/Axis2 and
all the stories I hear
about people getting Web services to work on mobiles is a fiction ...
Has anyone managed to run Web Services (servers primarily) on mobile
devices (either
CDC, CLDC, scripting, Web Runtime etc.)? I will appreciate any feedback
on something
like this.
Thanks very much
Re: Next question...
Posted by Matthew Beldyk <ma...@gmail.com>.
It appears to be axis2-jaxws-1.4.1.jar
Here's how I figured that out on a unix system:
[10:02:23] beldyk@mechagodzilla: ~/java_dev/trunk/libs/axis2-1.4.1
$ grep org.apache.axis2.jaxws.framework.JAXWSDeployer lib/*
Binary file lib/axis2-jaxws-1.4.1.jar matches
[10:02:39] beldyk@mechagodzilla: ~/java_dev/trunk/libs/axis2-1.4.1
$ unzip -l lib/axis2-jaxws-1.4.1.jar |grep
org.apache.axis2.jaxws.framework.JAXWSDeployer
13373 08-13-08 17:07 org/apache/axis2/jaxws/framework/JAXWSDeployer.class
Best regards,
-Matt Beldyk
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Shasta Willson<sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can someone tell me what .jar would contain
>
> org.apache.axis2.jaxws.framework.JAXWSDeployer
>
> I can't find it on the jar search engines I usually use.
>
> I'm getting a ClassNotFound in my logs, followed by an NPE without an
> obvious source a little later. I'm guessing something isn't getting
> initialized correctly, even though the Deployer doesn't cause it to
> fail immediately, and maybe putting the correct jar in place would
> help.
>
> Thank you,
> Shasta
>
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Hobbes: What?
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