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Posted to dev@struts.apache.org by James Mitchell <ja...@mac.com> on 2005/11/01 14:44:42 UTC
Mailreader 2.0
I can't find my changes to the mailreader app that makes it
compatible with mailreader-dao, so I'd have to start over, which I
really don't mind doing, but what do you think about a Mailreader 2.0?
What I mean is a rewrite of the same functionality into new code that
can demo some of the real power of Shale. If we don't want to do
that or if we think this idea will die on the vine (like some ideas
have done in the past), I understand. I guess the big difference
(for me) now is that I actually have a paying gig doing JSF/Shale, so
there's more incentive for me.
Ted has talked about Mailreader "Use Cases -- A best practices
approach" (or something like that) and there is even a wiki setup
for this (I can't seem to find the link at the moment).
Would that interest anyone?
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On Oct 31, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote:
> On 10/31/05, James Mitchell <ja...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Craig, are you working on the mailreader app too? I'll hold off on
>> my changes if you're fixing it.
>>
>
>
> I was going to start working on a Shale version on my next trip (to
> Tokyo
> next week, for JavaOne Japan 2005). If you're doing that, I'll be
> happy to
> stand back and let you go for it ... otherwise, this was just setup
> to make
> the DAO available.
>
> Craig
>
> --
>
>> James Mitchell
>> Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
>> Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance
>> EdgeTech, Inc.
>> http://www.edgetechservices.net/
>> 678.910.8017
>> AIM: jmitchtx
>> Yahoo: jmitchtx
>> MSN: jmitchell@apache.org
>> Skype: callto://jmitchtx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2005, at 9:23 PM, craigmcc@apache.org wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Author: craigmcc
>>> Date: Sun Oct 30 18:22:58 2005
>>> New Revision: 329708
>>>
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=329708&view=rev
>>> Log:
>>> Add a new dependency -- a snapshot of the "MailReader DAO" module
>>> (in
>>> the "apps" subdirectory). This is in preparation for building a
>>> Shale
>>> version of MailReader.
>>>
>>> Modified:
>>> struts/shale/trunk/build.xml
>>> struts/shale/trunk/default.properties
>>>
>>> Modified: struts/shale/trunk/build.xml
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/struts/shale/trunk/build.xml?
>>> rev=329708&r1=329707&r2=329708&view=diff
>>> ====================================================================
>>> ==
>>> ========
>>> --- struts/shale/trunk/build.xml (original)
>>> +++ struts/shale/trunk/build.xml Sun Oct 30 18:22:58 2005
>>> @@ -245,6 +245,14 @@
>>> <fileset refid="spring-web.libs"/>
>>> </path>
>>>
>>> + <fileset id="struts-mailreader-dao.libs"
>>> + dir="${lib.dir}/struts-mailreader-dao">
>>> + <include name="*.jar"/>
>>> + </fileset>
>>> + <path id="struts-mailreader-dao.path">
>>> + <fileset refid="struts-mailreader-dao.libs"/>
>>> + </path>
>>> +
>>> <fileset id="taglibrarydoc.libs"
>>> dir="${lib.dir}/taglibrarydoc">
>>> <include name="*.jar"/>
>>> @@ -551,6 +559,11 @@
>>> ignoreerrors="true"
>>> src="${maven.repo}/springframework/jars/spring-
>>> webmvc-1.2.2.jar"
>>> usetimestamp="true"/>
>>> +
>>> + <mkdir dir="${lib.dir}/struts-mailreader-dao"/>
>>> + <get dest="${lib.dir}/struts-mailreader-dao/struts-
>>> mailreader-dao.jar"
>>> + ignoreerrors="true"
>>> + src="http://cvs.apache.org/repository/struts/
>>> jars/struts-mailreader-dao-SNAPSHOT.jar"/>
>>>
>>> <mkdir dir="${lib.dir}/taglibrarydoc"/>
>>> <get dest="${lib.dir}/taglibrarydoc/taglibrarydoc.jar"
>>>
>>> Modified: struts/shale/trunk/default.properties
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/struts/shale/trunk/
>>> default.properties?rev=329708&r1=329707&r2=329708&view=diff
>>> ====================================================================
>>> ==
>>> ========
>>> --- struts/shale/trunk/default.properties (original)
>>> +++ struts/shale/trunk/default.properties Sun Oct 30 18:22:58 2005
>>> @@ -100,5 +100,6 @@
>>> spring-support.jar=${lib.dir}/springframework/spring-support.jar
>>> spring-web.jar=${lib.dir}/springframework/spring-web.jar
>>> spring-webmvc.jar=${lib.dir}/springframework/spring-webmvc.jar
>>> +struts-mailreader-dao.jar=${lib.dir}/struts-mailreader-dao/struts-
>>> mailreader-dao.jar
>>> taglibrarydoc.jar=${lib.dir}/taglibrarydoc/taglibrarydoc.jar
>>> tiles.jar=${lib.dir}/tiles/tiles-core.jar
>>>
>>>
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Re: Mailreader 2.0
Posted by Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com>.
[snip]
> A larger scale demo app that really showed off Shale would be very useful as
> well. It wouldn't *have* to be MailReader 2.0 ... it could be something new
> (after all these years :-). Such an app would need to cover enough
> functionality areas to show off Dialogs and the application level events,
> IoC integration for the business tier, and stuff like that. Sound
> interesting?
Yes very interesting. I am insanely busy now but I can try to find
time to help pitch in.
> Craig
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Re: Mailreader 2.0
Posted by Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com>.
> On my list is to test it with 1.1.1 (just released), and to update the
> dependency information if that actually works. I'm not planning on trying to
> keep up with nightly build changes in MyFaces; just the releases they test
> for compatibility with the JSF TCK.
Speaking of which I need to publish the latest jars so they are
available for Maven. I will try to get to that this weekend.
By the way, don't feel bad about not keeping up with the latest
(hourly) MyFaces changes. I can't keep up myself ;-)
> Craig
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Re: Mailreader 2.0
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.
Thanks for working on this! More below.
On 11/3/05, James Mitchell <ja...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> Ok, I've done the minimal necessary changes to make the shale
> mailreader app work (except for 1 thing). I can't seem to figure out
> why the edit/delete buttons on a subscription don't work. When
> either is pressed The page simply returns back to the same page and
> re-renders that same (minus the subscriptions). I'm sure the answer
> is right in front of me, but I've debugged it to death and I just
> don't see it. If anyone wants to take a crack at it, go for it.
The most common cause for this kind of thing is a validation error message
that causes the page to be redisplayed, but perhaps you don't have a message
component there to show it. I usually add a <h:messageList> component
somewhere on the page to show all errors -- this should give you a clue
about what is going on.
As for what's going on, I'll bet it has something to do with validations on
the "master" part of the page firing when you click one of the edit or
delete buttons. That is typically addressed by setting immediate="true" on
the edit and delete controls.
If that doesn't fix things, go ahead and check in what you've got and we can
all take a look. I suspect you're creating a new "shale-mailreader"
subdirectory for this, parallel to the other shale subdirectories?
On a broader topic:
> I noticed shale depends on commons-httpclient, htmlunit, and spring-
> webflow, but those are not retrieved in download-dependencies. I
> know spring-webflow is not out on ibiblio yet, so I had to grab that
> one by hand.
The first two are used only by the "systest" target of use-cases (at least
the Ant version). They should definitely be grabbed, but its important that
the versions grabbed match the ones required by HTMLUnit itself.
The SWF stuff is conditional in the Ant compile :-). But it can actually be
removed now ... Colin and Keith have started working on the "real" port of
this stuff in the SWF repository, so we don't need these classes at all.
Once SWF is finished with formal JSF support, it'll import into a Shale app
just like any other Spring-based optional library.
FYI - Shale Mailreader does not work with MyFaces HEAD, you have to
> use 1.1.0 (or a compatible release).
On my list is to test it with 1.1.1 (just released), and to update the
dependency information if that actually works. I'm not planning on trying to
keep up with nightly build changes in MyFaces; just the releases they test
for compatibility with the JSF TCK.
--
> James Mitchell
Craig
678.910.8017
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 1, 2005, at 12:37 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote:
>
> > On 11/1/05, James Mitchell <ja...@mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I can't find my changes to the mailreader app that makes it
> >> compatible with mailreader-dao, so I'd have to start over, which I
> >> really don't mind doing, but what do you think about a Mailreader
> >> 2.0?
> >
> >
> > That may well be appropriate ... but one question a lot of people
> > ask me is
> > "where is a Shale mailreader example so I can learn how its
> > different from
> > Struts Classic?". For that purpose, having one as similar as
> > possible to the
> > others is a good starting point.
> >
> >
> > What I mean is a rewrite of the same functionality into new code that
> >> can demo some of the real power of Shale. If we don't want to do
> >> that or if we think this idea will die on the vine (like some ideas
> >> have done in the past), I understand. I guess the big difference
> >> (for me) now is that I actually have a paying gig doing JSF/Shale, so
> >> there's more incentive for me.
> >
> >
> > Congrats!
> >
> > A larger scale demo app that really showed off Shale would be very
> > useful as
> > well. It wouldn't *have* to be MailReader 2.0 ... it could be
> > something new
> > (after all these years :-). Such an app would need to cover enough
> > functionality areas to show off Dialogs and the application level
> > events,
> > IoC integration for the business tier, and stuff like that. Sound
> > interesting?
> >
> > Ted has talked about Mailreader "Use Cases -- A best practices
> >> approach" (or something like that) and there is even a wiki setup
> >> for this (I can't seem to find the link at the moment).
> >>
> >> Would that interest anyone?
> >
> >
> > While a "use cases" approach can be helpful, it's also useful to
> > have an
> > end-to-end application example. Yes, you make choices among
> > alternatives in
> > such a design (and those could be discussed or illustrated in
> > corresponding
> > documentation), but people also like to see something complete.
> >
> > --
> >> James Mitchell
> >> Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
> >> Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance
> >> EdgeTech, Inc.
> >> http://www.edgetechservices.net/
> >> 678.910.8017
> >> AIM: jmitchtx
> >> Yahoo: jmitchtx
> >> MSN: jmitchell@apache.org
> >> Skype: callto://jmitchtx
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> > On Oct 31, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 10/31/05, James Mitchell <ja...@mac.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Craig, are you working on the mailreader app too? I'll hold off on
> >>>> my changes if you're fixing it.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I was going to start working on a Shale version on my next trip (to
> >>> Tokyo
> >>> next week, for JavaOne Japan 2005). If you're doing that, I'll be
> >>> happy to
> >>> stand back and let you go for it ... otherwise, this was just setup
> >>> to make
> >>> the DAO available.
> >>>
> >>> Craig
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>>> James Mitchell
> >>>> Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
> >>>> Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance
> >>>> EdgeTech, Inc.
> >>>> http://www.edgetechservices.net/
> >>>> 678.910.8017
> >>>> AIM: jmitchtx
> >>>> Yahoo: jmitchtx
> >>>> MSN: jmitchell@apache.org
> >>>> Skype: callto://jmitchtx
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Oct 30, 2005, at 9:23 PM, craigmcc@apache.org wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Author: craigmcc
> >>>>> Date: Sun Oct 30 18:22:58 2005
> >>>>> New Revision: 329708
> >>>>>
> >>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=329708&view=rev
> >>>>> Log:
> >>>>> Add a new dependency -- a snapshot of the "MailReader DAO" module
> >>>>> (in
> >>>>> the "apps" subdirectory). This is in preparation for building a
> >>>>> Shale
> >>>>> version of MailReader.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Modified:
> >>>>> struts/shale/trunk/build.xml
> >>>>> struts/shale/trunk/default.properties
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Modified: struts/shale/trunk/build.xml
> >>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/struts/shale/trunk/build.xml?
> >>>>> rev=329708&r1=329707&r2=329708&view=diff
> >>>>> ==================================================================
> >>>>> ==
> >>>>> ==
> >>>>> ========
> >>>>> --- struts/shale/trunk/build.xml (original)
> >>>>> +++ struts/shale/trunk/build.xml Sun Oct 30 18:22:58 2005
> >>>>> @@ -245,6 +245,14 @@
> >>>>> <fileset refid="spring-web.libs"/>
> >>>>> </path>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> + <fileset id="struts-mailreader-dao.libs"
> >>>>> + dir="${lib.dir}/struts-mailreader-dao">
> >>>>> + <include name="*.jar"/>
> >>>>> + </fileset>
> >>>>> + <path id="struts-mailreader-dao.path">
> >>>>> + <fileset refid="struts-mailreader-dao.libs"/>
> >>>>> + </path>
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> <fileset id="taglibrarydoc.libs"
> >>>>> dir="${lib.dir}/taglibrarydoc">
> >>>>> <include name="*.jar"/>
> >>>>> @@ -551,6 +559,11 @@
> >>>>> ignoreerrors="true"
> >>>>> src="${maven.repo}/springframework/jars/spring-
> >>>>> webmvc-1.2.2.jar"
> >>>>> usetimestamp="true"/>
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> + <mkdir dir="${lib.dir}/struts-mailreader-dao"/>
> >>>>> + <get dest="${lib.dir}/struts-mailreader-dao/struts-
> >>>>> mailreader-dao.jar"
> >>>>> + ignoreerrors="true"
> >>>>> + src="http://cvs.apache.org/repository/struts/
> >>>>> jars/struts-mailreader-dao-SNAPSHOT.jar"/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <mkdir dir="${lib.dir}/taglibrarydoc"/>
> >>>>> <get dest="${lib.dir}/taglibrarydoc/taglibrarydoc.jar"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Modified: struts/shale/trunk/default.properties
> >>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/struts/shale/trunk/
> >>>>> default.properties?rev=329708&r1=329707&r2=329708&view=diff
> >>>>> ==================================================================
> >>>>> ==
> >>>>> ==
> >>>>> ========
> >>>>> --- struts/shale/trunk/default.properties (original)
> >>>>> +++ struts/shale/trunk/default.properties Sun Oct 30 18:22:58 2005
> >>>>> @@ -100,5 +100,6 @@
> >>>>> spring-support.jar=${lib.dir}/springframework/spring-support.jar
> >>>>> spring-web.jar=${lib.dir}/springframework/spring-web.jar
> >>>>> spring-webmvc.jar=${lib.dir}/springframework/spring-webmvc.jar
> >>>>> +struts-mailreader-dao.jar=${lib.dir}/struts-mailreader-dao/
> >>>>> struts-
> >>>>> mailreader-dao.jar
> >>>>> taglibrarydoc.jar=${lib.dir}/taglibrarydoc/taglibrarydoc.jar
> >>>>> tiles.jar=${lib.dir}/tiles/tiles-core.jar
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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Re: Mailreader 2.0
Posted by James Mitchell <ja...@mac.com>.
I don't remember the exact reason. Plus, the latest won't be on
ibiblio, so the download-dependencies won't work, unless we point it
to where the myfaces nightlies are published.
No big deal though, it works with MyFaces 1.1.0, and I'll likely
focus future efforts on new stuff.
--
James Mitchell
678.910.8017
On Nov 3, 2005, at 9:23 AM, Sean Schofield wrote:
>> FYI - Shale Mailreader does not work with MyFaces HEAD, you have to
>> use 1.1.0 (or a compatible release).
>
> What's the problem with HEAD?
>
>> James Mitchell
>
> sean
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Re: Mailreader 2.0
Posted by Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com>.
> FYI - Shale Mailreader does not work with MyFaces HEAD, you have to
> use 1.1.0 (or a compatible release).
What's the problem with HEAD?
> James Mitchell
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Re: Mailreader 2.0
Posted by James Mitchell <ja...@mac.com>.
Ok, I've done the minimal necessary changes to make the shale
mailreader app work (except for 1 thing). I can't seem to figure out
why the edit/delete buttons on a subscription don't work. When
either is pressed The page simply returns back to the same page and
re-renders that same (minus the subscriptions). I'm sure the answer
is right in front of me, but I've debugged it to death and I just
don't see it. If anyone wants to take a crack at it, go for it.
On a broader topic:
I noticed shale depends on commons-httpclient, htmlunit, and spring-
webflow, but those are not retrieved in download-dependencies. I
know spring-webflow is not out on ibiblio yet, so I had to grab that
one by hand.
FYI - Shale Mailreader does not work with MyFaces HEAD, you have to
use 1.1.0 (or a compatible release).
--
James Mitchell
678.910.8017
On Nov 1, 2005, at 12:37 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote:
> On 11/1/05, James Mitchell <ja...@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> I can't find my changes to the mailreader app that makes it
>> compatible with mailreader-dao, so I'd have to start over, which I
>> really don't mind doing, but what do you think about a Mailreader
>> 2.0?
>
>
> That may well be appropriate ... but one question a lot of people
> ask me is
> "where is a Shale mailreader example so I can learn how its
> different from
> Struts Classic?". For that purpose, having one as similar as
> possible to the
> others is a good starting point.
>
>
> What I mean is a rewrite of the same functionality into new code that
>> can demo some of the real power of Shale. If we don't want to do
>> that or if we think this idea will die on the vine (like some ideas
>> have done in the past), I understand. I guess the big difference
>> (for me) now is that I actually have a paying gig doing JSF/Shale, so
>> there's more incentive for me.
>
>
> Congrats!
>
> A larger scale demo app that really showed off Shale would be very
> useful as
> well. It wouldn't *have* to be MailReader 2.0 ... it could be
> something new
> (after all these years :-). Such an app would need to cover enough
> functionality areas to show off Dialogs and the application level
> events,
> IoC integration for the business tier, and stuff like that. Sound
> interesting?
>
> Ted has talked about Mailreader "Use Cases -- A best practices
>> approach" (or something like that) and there is even a wiki setup
>> for this (I can't seem to find the link at the moment).
>>
>> Would that interest anyone?
>
>
> While a "use cases" approach can be helpful, it's also useful to
> have an
> end-to-end application example. Yes, you make choices among
> alternatives in
> such a design (and those could be discussed or illustrated in
> corresponding
> documentation), but people also like to see something complete.
>
> --
>> James Mitchell
>> Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
>> Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance
>> EdgeTech, Inc.
>> http://www.edgetechservices.net/
>> 678.910.8017
>> AIM: jmitchtx
>> Yahoo: jmitchtx
>> MSN: jmitchell@apache.org
>> Skype: callto://jmitchtx
>
>
> Craig
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/31/05, James Mitchell <ja...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Craig, are you working on the mailreader app too? I'll hold off on
>>>> my changes if you're fixing it.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was going to start working on a Shale version on my next trip (to
>>> Tokyo
>>> next week, for JavaOne Japan 2005). If you're doing that, I'll be
>>> happy to
>>> stand back and let you go for it ... otherwise, this was just setup
>>> to make
>>> the DAO available.
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>> James Mitchell
>>>> Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
>>>> Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance
>>>> EdgeTech, Inc.
>>>> http://www.edgetechservices.net/
>>>> 678.910.8017
>>>> AIM: jmitchtx
>>>> Yahoo: jmitchtx
>>>> MSN: jmitchell@apache.org
>>>> Skype: callto://jmitchtx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 30, 2005, at 9:23 PM, craigmcc@apache.org wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Author: craigmcc
>>>>> Date: Sun Oct 30 18:22:58 2005
>>>>> New Revision: 329708
>>>>>
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=329708&view=rev
>>>>> Log:
>>>>> Add a new dependency -- a snapshot of the "MailReader DAO" module
>>>>> (in
>>>>> the "apps" subdirectory). This is in preparation for building a
>>>>> Shale
>>>>> version of MailReader.
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified:
>>>>> struts/shale/trunk/build.xml
>>>>> struts/shale/trunk/default.properties
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified: struts/shale/trunk/build.xml
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/struts/shale/trunk/build.xml?
>>>>> rev=329708&r1=329707&r2=329708&view=diff
>>>>> ==================================================================
>>>>> ==
>>>>> ==
>>>>> ========
>>>>> --- struts/shale/trunk/build.xml (original)
>>>>> +++ struts/shale/trunk/build.xml Sun Oct 30 18:22:58 2005
>>>>> @@ -245,6 +245,14 @@
>>>>> <fileset refid="spring-web.libs"/>
>>>>> </path>
>>>>>
>>>>> + <fileset id="struts-mailreader-dao.libs"
>>>>> + dir="${lib.dir}/struts-mailreader-dao">
>>>>> + <include name="*.jar"/>
>>>>> + </fileset>
>>>>> + <path id="struts-mailreader-dao.path">
>>>>> + <fileset refid="struts-mailreader-dao.libs"/>
>>>>> + </path>
>>>>> +
>>>>> <fileset id="taglibrarydoc.libs"
>>>>> dir="${lib.dir}/taglibrarydoc">
>>>>> <include name="*.jar"/>
>>>>> @@ -551,6 +559,11 @@
>>>>> ignoreerrors="true"
>>>>> src="${maven.repo}/springframework/jars/spring-
>>>>> webmvc-1.2.2.jar"
>>>>> usetimestamp="true"/>
>>>>> +
>>>>> + <mkdir dir="${lib.dir}/struts-mailreader-dao"/>
>>>>> + <get dest="${lib.dir}/struts-mailreader-dao/struts-
>>>>> mailreader-dao.jar"
>>>>> + ignoreerrors="true"
>>>>> + src="http://cvs.apache.org/repository/struts/
>>>>> jars/struts-mailreader-dao-SNAPSHOT.jar"/>
>>>>>
>>>>> <mkdir dir="${lib.dir}/taglibrarydoc"/>
>>>>> <get dest="${lib.dir}/taglibrarydoc/taglibrarydoc.jar"
>>>>>
>>>>> Modified: struts/shale/trunk/default.properties
>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/struts/shale/trunk/
>>>>> default.properties?rev=329708&r1=329707&r2=329708&view=diff
>>>>> ==================================================================
>>>>> ==
>>>>> ==
>>>>> ========
>>>>> --- struts/shale/trunk/default.properties (original)
>>>>> +++ struts/shale/trunk/default.properties Sun Oct 30 18:22:58 2005
>>>>> @@ -100,5 +100,6 @@
>>>>> spring-support.jar=${lib.dir}/springframework/spring-support.jar
>>>>> spring-web.jar=${lib.dir}/springframework/spring-web.jar
>>>>> spring-webmvc.jar=${lib.dir}/springframework/spring-webmvc.jar
>>>>> +struts-mailreader-dao.jar=${lib.dir}/struts-mailreader-dao/
>>>>> struts-
>>>>> mailreader-dao.jar
>>>>> taglibrarydoc.jar=${lib.dir}/taglibrarydoc/taglibrarydoc.jar
>>>>> tiles.jar=${lib.dir}/tiles/tiles-core.jar
>>>>>
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Re: Mailreader 2.0
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.
On 11/1/05, James Mitchell <ja...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> I can't find my changes to the mailreader app that makes it
> compatible with mailreader-dao, so I'd have to start over, which I
> really don't mind doing, but what do you think about a Mailreader 2.0?
That may well be appropriate ... but one question a lot of people ask me is
"where is a Shale mailreader example so I can learn how its different from
Struts Classic?". For that purpose, having one as similar as possible to the
others is a good starting point.
What I mean is a rewrite of the same functionality into new code that
> can demo some of the real power of Shale. If we don't want to do
> that or if we think this idea will die on the vine (like some ideas
> have done in the past), I understand. I guess the big difference
> (for me) now is that I actually have a paying gig doing JSF/Shale, so
> there's more incentive for me.
Congrats!
A larger scale demo app that really showed off Shale would be very useful as
well. It wouldn't *have* to be MailReader 2.0 ... it could be something new
(after all these years :-). Such an app would need to cover enough
functionality areas to show off Dialogs and the application level events,
IoC integration for the business tier, and stuff like that. Sound
interesting?
Ted has talked about Mailreader "Use Cases -- A best practices
> approach" (or something like that) and there is even a wiki setup
> for this (I can't seem to find the link at the moment).
>
> Would that interest anyone?
While a "use cases" approach can be helpful, it's also useful to have an
end-to-end application example. Yes, you make choices among alternatives in
such a design (and those could be discussed or illustrated in corresponding
documentation), but people also like to see something complete.
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Craig
On Oct 31, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote:
>
> > On 10/31/05, James Mitchell <ja...@mac.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Craig, are you working on the mailreader app too? I'll hold off on
> >> my changes if you're fixing it.
> >>
> >
> >
> > I was going to start working on a Shale version on my next trip (to
> > Tokyo
> > next week, for JavaOne Japan 2005). If you're doing that, I'll be
> > happy to
> > stand back and let you go for it ... otherwise, this was just setup
> > to make
> > the DAO available.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > --
> >
> >> James Mitchell
> >> Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
> >> Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance
> >> EdgeTech, Inc.
> >> http://www.edgetechservices.net/
> >> 678.910.8017
> >> AIM: jmitchtx
> >> Yahoo: jmitchtx
> >> MSN: jmitchell@apache.org
> >> Skype: callto://jmitchtx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 30, 2005, at 9:23 PM, craigmcc@apache.org wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Author: craigmcc
> >>> Date: Sun Oct 30 18:22:58 2005
> >>> New Revision: 329708
> >>>
> >>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=329708&view=rev
> >>> Log:
> >>> Add a new dependency -- a snapshot of the "MailReader DAO" module
> >>> (in
> >>> the "apps" subdirectory). This is in preparation for building a
> >>> Shale
> >>> version of MailReader.
> >>>
> >>> Modified:
> >>> struts/shale/trunk/build.xml
> >>> struts/shale/trunk/default.properties
> >>>
> >>> Modified: struts/shale/trunk/build.xml
> >>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/struts/shale/trunk/build.xml?
> >>> rev=329708&r1=329707&r2=329708&view=diff
> >>> ====================================================================
> >>> ==
> >>> ========
> >>> --- struts/shale/trunk/build.xml (original)
> >>> +++ struts/shale/trunk/build.xml Sun Oct 30 18:22:58 2005
> >>> @@ -245,6 +245,14 @@
> >>> <fileset refid="spring-web.libs"/>
> >>> </path>
> >>>
> >>> + <fileset id="struts-mailreader-dao.libs"
> >>> + dir="${lib.dir}/struts-mailreader-dao">
> >>> + <include name="*.jar"/>
> >>> + </fileset>
> >>> + <path id="struts-mailreader-dao.path">
> >>> + <fileset refid="struts-mailreader-dao.libs"/>
> >>> + </path>
> >>> +
> >>> <fileset id="taglibrarydoc.libs"
> >>> dir="${lib.dir}/taglibrarydoc">
> >>> <include name="*.jar"/>
> >>> @@ -551,6 +559,11 @@
> >>> ignoreerrors="true"
> >>> src="${maven.repo}/springframework/jars/spring-
> >>> webmvc-1.2.2.jar"
> >>> usetimestamp="true"/>
> >>> +
> >>> + <mkdir dir="${lib.dir}/struts-mailreader-dao"/>
> >>> + <get dest="${lib.dir}/struts-mailreader-dao/struts-
> >>> mailreader-dao.jar"
> >>> + ignoreerrors="true"
> >>> + src="http://cvs.apache.org/repository/struts/
> >>> jars/struts-mailreader-dao-SNAPSHOT.jar"/>
> >>>
> >>> <mkdir dir="${lib.dir}/taglibrarydoc"/>
> >>> <get dest="${lib.dir}/taglibrarydoc/taglibrarydoc.jar"
> >>>
> >>> Modified: struts/shale/trunk/default.properties
> >>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/struts/shale/trunk/
> >>> default.properties?rev=329708&r1=329707&r2=329708&view=diff
> >>> ====================================================================
> >>> ==
> >>> ========
> >>> --- struts/shale/trunk/default.properties (original)
> >>> +++ struts/shale/trunk/default.properties Sun Oct 30 18:22:58 2005
> >>> @@ -100,5 +100,6 @@
> >>> spring-support.jar=${lib.dir}/springframework/spring-support.jar
> >>> spring-web.jar=${lib.dir}/springframework/spring-web.jar
> >>> spring-webmvc.jar=${lib.dir}/springframework/spring-webmvc.jar
> >>> +struts-mailreader-dao.jar=${lib.dir}/struts-mailreader-dao/struts-
> >>> mailreader-dao.jar
> >>> taglibrarydoc.jar=${lib.dir}/taglibrarydoc/taglibrarydoc.jar
> >>> tiles.jar=${lib.dir}/tiles/tiles-core.jar
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: Mailreader 2.0
Posted by Ted Husted <te...@gmail.com>.
How about a MailReader 1.3 for now? :)
I think we should definately use MailReader as a small best practices
demonstration of Shale as well as Core.
Steve uploaded the CookBook to Apps, so we don't need to stretch the
example anymore. I believe we should write the MailReader the way we
write our own applications, including alternatives if needed, without
compromise.
The link you mentioned is here.
* http://opensource2.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/display/STRUTS/MailReader
I might have another example of using MailReader with a DAO, but I
have to pull it off an archival CD.
Cool news on the new gig. As always, Darwin (and Dice) decides :)
-Ted.
On 11/1/05, James Mitchell <ja...@mac.com> wrote:
> I can't find my changes to the mailreader app that makes it
> compatible with mailreader-dao, so I'd have to start over, which I
> really don't mind doing, but what do you think about a Mailreader 2.0?
>
> What I mean is a rewrite of the same functionality into new code that
> can demo some of the real power of Shale. If we don't want to do
> that or if we think this idea will die on the vine (like some ideas
> have done in the past), I understand. I guess the big difference
> (for me) now is that I actually have a paying gig doing JSF/Shale, so
> there's more incentive for me.
>
> Ted has talked about Mailreader "Use Cases -- A best practices
> approach" (or something like that) and there is even a wiki setup
> for this (I can't seem to find the link at the moment).
>
> Would that interest anyone?
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