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Posted to dev@struts.apache.org by Martin Cooper <mf...@gmail.com> on 2005/05/18 19:30:07 UTC
Contrib packages in 1.2.7
We seem to have a slightly odd situation in 1.2.7 with respect to the
inclusion of contrib packages. In the binary distribution, we have
struts-el, while in the source distribution, we have struts-chain,
struts-el and struts-faces. My expectation would have been that
whatever we provide in the source distribution would also be provided
in the binary distribution.
I can't decide how serious I think this is. On the one hand, it's a
contrib issue, meaning that it shouldn't be that big of a deal. On the
other hand, I feel uneasy with the idea of having a GA release that
has known packaging issues.
What do other folks think?
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Martin Cooper
PS - This is the only issue that we (at my day job) have found with
1.2.7 so far.
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Re: Contrib packages in 1.2.7
Posted by Joe Germuska <Jo...@Germuska.com>.
At 8:06 PM +0100 5/18/05, Niall Pemberton wrote:
>The situation is consistent with previous releases.
Good enough; I have no objection with consistency. Sorry for missing
the earlier thread.
Joe
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Re: Contrib packages in 1.2.7
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
I'm happy to help where I can. Just let me know.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Cooper" <mf...@gmail.com>
To: "Struts Developers List" <de...@struts.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: Contrib packages in 1.2.7
On 5/18/05, Niall Pemberton <ni...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> The situation is consistent with previous releases. Contrib was first
> included in Struts 1.1 and both the Struts 1.1 and Struts 1.2.4 releases
> have only struts-el in the contrib folder of the binary distro - but a
> complete copy of the whole of what was in CVS contrib in the source
> distro.
Well, to be truly consistent, we would have a complete copy of contrib
in the 1.2.7 source distribution, then, right? ;-)
> The inconsitency was with versions such as 1.2.6 where "contrib" was
> missing
> from the source distro. I did consult on this issue and what should be
> included in the source distro "contrib" folder in the following thread
> before doing the 1.2.7 release and would be disappointed if that now
> caused
> an issue since people had an opportunity to raise any concerns then.
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@struts.apache.org/msg08968.html
> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@struts.apache.org/msg08977.html
I'm sorry, I completely missed the point in that thread about these
changes happening in the source distribution only. When I saw messages
such as this one (from the same thread):
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@struts.apache.org/msg08970.html
I just assumed that it was being built, as well as being included with
the sources. If I had realised it was only being included in source
form, then I would indeed have raised my concerns then. Frankly, I see
little reason to include anything in the source distribution that
isn't being included, in binary form, in the binary distribution. I
suspect that's why we only included the EL sources in 1.2.6, too.
Since I only have myself to blame for not reading the thread closely
enough, I think I'll step back and let other folks decide what to do
with 1.2.7.
--
Martin Cooper
> Niall
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Cooper" <mf...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 6:30 PM
>
> We seem to have a slightly odd situation in 1.2.7 with respect to the
> inclusion of contrib packages. In the binary distribution, we have
> struts-el, while in the source distribution, we have struts-chain,
> struts-el and struts-faces. My expectation would have been that
> whatever we provide in the source distribution would also be provided
> in the binary distribution.
>
> I can't decide how serious I think this is. On the one hand, it's a
> contrib issue, meaning that it shouldn't be that big of a deal. On the
> other hand, I feel uneasy with the idea of having a GA release that
> has known packaging issues.
>
> What do other folks think?
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
>
> PS - This is the only issue that we (at my day job) have found with
> 1.2.7 so far.
>
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Re: Contrib packages in 1.2.7
Posted by Martin Cooper <mf...@gmail.com>.
On 5/18/05, Niall Pemberton <ni...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> The situation is consistent with previous releases. Contrib was first
> included in Struts 1.1 and both the Struts 1.1 and Struts 1.2.4 releases
> have only struts-el in the contrib folder of the binary distro - but a
> complete copy of the whole of what was in CVS contrib in the source distro.
Well, to be truly consistent, we would have a complete copy of contrib
in the 1.2.7 source distribution, then, right? ;-)
> The inconsitency was with versions such as 1.2.6 where "contrib" was missing
> from the source distro. I did consult on this issue and what should be
> included in the source distro "contrib" folder in the following thread
> before doing the 1.2.7 release and would be disappointed if that now caused
> an issue since people had an opportunity to raise any concerns then.
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@struts.apache.org/msg08968.html
> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@struts.apache.org/msg08977.html
I'm sorry, I completely missed the point in that thread about these
changes happening in the source distribution only. When I saw messages
such as this one (from the same thread):
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@struts.apache.org/msg08970.html
I just assumed that it was being built, as well as being included with
the sources. If I had realised it was only being included in source
form, then I would indeed have raised my concerns then. Frankly, I see
little reason to include anything in the source distribution that
isn't being included, in binary form, in the binary distribution. I
suspect that's why we only included the EL sources in 1.2.6, too.
Since I only have myself to blame for not reading the thread closely
enough, I think I'll step back and let other folks decide what to do
with 1.2.7.
--
Martin Cooper
> Niall
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Cooper" <mf...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 6:30 PM
>
> We seem to have a slightly odd situation in 1.2.7 with respect to the
> inclusion of contrib packages. In the binary distribution, we have
> struts-el, while in the source distribution, we have struts-chain,
> struts-el and struts-faces. My expectation would have been that
> whatever we provide in the source distribution would also be provided
> in the binary distribution.
>
> I can't decide how serious I think this is. On the one hand, it's a
> contrib issue, meaning that it shouldn't be that big of a deal. On the
> other hand, I feel uneasy with the idea of having a GA release that
> has known packaging issues.
>
> What do other folks think?
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
>
> PS - This is the only issue that we (at my day job) have found with
> 1.2.7 so far.
>
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Re: Contrib packages in 1.2.7
Posted by Niall Pemberton <ni...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
The situation is consistent with previous releases. Contrib was first
included in Struts 1.1 and both the Struts 1.1 and Struts 1.2.4 releases
have only struts-el in the contrib folder of the binary distro - but a
complete copy of the whole of what was in CVS contrib in the source distro.
The inconsitency was with versions such as 1.2.6 where "contrib" was missing
from the source distro. I did consult on this issue and what should be
included in the source distro "contrib" folder in the following thread
before doing the 1.2.7 release and would be disappointed if that now caused
an issue since people had an opportunity to raise any concerns then.
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@struts.apache.org/msg08968.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@struts.apache.org/msg08977.html
Niall
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Cooper" <mf...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 6:30 PM
We seem to have a slightly odd situation in 1.2.7 with respect to the
inclusion of contrib packages. In the binary distribution, we have
struts-el, while in the source distribution, we have struts-chain,
struts-el and struts-faces. My expectation would have been that
whatever we provide in the source distribution would also be provided
in the binary distribution.
I can't decide how serious I think this is. On the one hand, it's a
contrib issue, meaning that it shouldn't be that big of a deal. On the
other hand, I feel uneasy with the idea of having a GA release that
has known packaging issues.
What do other folks think?
--
Martin Cooper
PS - This is the only issue that we (at my day job) have found with
1.2.7 so far.
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Re: Contrib packages in 1.2.7
Posted by Joe Germuska <Jo...@Germuska.com>.
At 10:30 AM -0700 5/18/05, Martin Cooper wrote:
>We seem to have a slightly odd situation in 1.2.7 with respect to the
>inclusion of contrib packages. In the binary distribution, we have
>struts-el, while in the source distribution, we have struts-chain,
>struts-el and struts-faces. My expectation would have been that
>whatever we provide in the source distribution would also be provided
>in the binary distribution.
>
>I can't decide how serious I think this is. On the one hand, it's a
>contrib issue, meaning that it shouldn't be that big of a deal. On the
>other hand, I feel uneasy with the idea of having a GA release that
>has known packaging issues.
>
>What do other folks think?
I think that if it's at all possible to quickly roll a 1.2.8 which
fixes it, we should do so, but treat people's time and experiences
using 1.2.7 as valid criteria for voting on the quality of 1.2.8.
If it is not possible to quickly roll a 1.2.8, I would not let this
issue stop me from voting 1.2.7 as GA if nothing else comes up.
Joe
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>
>PS - This is the only issue that we (at my day job) have found with
>1.2.7 so far.
>
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