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Weird (apocryphal) reference to Tomcat in Wikipedia
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All,
I was reading the Wikipedia entry on .properties format yesterday
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.properties) and I saw a mention of
Apache Tomcat that doesn't make any kind of sense to me:
"
In Apache Tomcat the exclamation mark denotes a Negation operator when
used as the first non blank character in a line[citation needed].
"
I'm the one that added the "[citation needed]" with a note that I
think this is false.
Does anyone know if there was some kind of ancient version of Tomcat
that read its own .properties files and added some kind of magic to do
what the above says? I think it's a complete fabrication with no basis
in reality.
Any ideas?
- -chris
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Re: Weird (apocryphal) reference to Tomcat in Wikipedia
Posted by Leo Donahue <do...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 9:31 AM, André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com> wrote:
> Christopher Schultz wrote:
>
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>> All,
>>
>> I was reading the Wikipedia entry on .properties format yesterday
>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.properties) and I saw a mention of
>> Apache Tomcat that doesn't make any kind of sense to me:
>>
>> "
>> In Apache Tomcat the exclamation mark denotes a Negation operator when
>> used as the first non blank character in a line[citation needed].
>> "
>>
>> I'm the one that added the "[citation needed]" with a note that I
>> think this is false.
>>
>> Does anyone know if there was some kind of ancient version of Tomcat
>> that read its own .properties files and added some kind of magic to do
>> what the above says? I think it's a complete fabrication with no basis
>> in reality.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
> Maybe a very indirect reference to :
> http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/reference/uriworkermap.html
> (see : Exclusions and rule disabling)
>
> but, like you, I think that this reference is quite irrelevant in that
> Wikipedia article.
>
>
> Nice find André! bonus points.
Re: Weird (apocryphal) reference to Tomcat in Wikipedia
Posted by Rainer Jung <ra...@kippdata.de>.
Am 05.11.2014 um 16:39 schrieb Christopher Schultz:
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> André,
>
> On 11/5/14 10:31 AM, André Warnier wrote:
>> Christopher Schultz wrote:
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>>> All,
>>>
>>> I was reading the Wikipedia entry on .properties format
>>> yesterday (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.properties) and I saw a
>>> mention of Apache Tomcat that doesn't make any kind of sense to
>>> me:
>>>
>>> " In Apache Tomcat the exclamation mark denotes a Negation
>>> operator when used as the first non blank character in a
>>> line[citation needed]. "
>>>
>>> I'm the one that added the "[citation needed]" with a note that
>>> I think this is false.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if there was some kind of ancient version of
>>> Tomcat that read its own .properties files and added some kind of
>>> magic to do what the above says? I think it's a complete
>>> fabrication with no basis in reality.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>
>> Maybe a very indirect reference to :
>> http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/reference/uriworkermap.html
>>
>>
> (see : Exclusions and rule disabling)
>
> Good call. This actually might be the source of that text.
>
>> but, like you, I think that this reference is quite irrelevant in
>> that Wikipedia article.
>
> I agree. This is one single instance of one file that typically ends
> in ".properties" that has these semantics. It's not even correct to
> say that Apache Tomcat does this... it's really Apache mod_jk that
> does this, and mod_jk isn't a Java program (though of course,
> .properties isn't exclusive to the Java world). I'm sure that mod_jk
> doesn't follow the exact rules of Java .properties specifications like
> using \ as an escape character, trimming leading spaces, etc.
>
> I think I'll update the Wikipedia article. Rather than removing the
> text, I think I'll move it into another section and explain.
If you don't want to remove it, you can add it as an example for
existing custom variations of the properties format. Note though, that
uriworkermap.properties does not implement most of the standard
specifics of the Java properties file format, so it is not a superset.
Regards,
Rainer
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Re: Weird (apocryphal) reference to Tomcat in Wikipedia
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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André,
On 11/5/14 10:31 AM, André Warnier wrote:
> Christopher Schultz wrote:
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>>
>> All,
>>
>> I was reading the Wikipedia entry on .properties format
>> yesterday (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.properties) and I saw a
>> mention of Apache Tomcat that doesn't make any kind of sense to
>> me:
>>
>> " In Apache Tomcat the exclamation mark denotes a Negation
>> operator when used as the first non blank character in a
>> line[citation needed]. "
>>
>> I'm the one that added the "[citation needed]" with a note that
>> I think this is false.
>>
>> Does anyone know if there was some kind of ancient version of
>> Tomcat that read its own .properties files and added some kind of
>> magic to do what the above says? I think it's a complete
>> fabrication with no basis in reality.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>
> Maybe a very indirect reference to :
> http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/reference/uriworkermap.html
>
>
(see : Exclusions and rule disabling)
Good call. This actually might be the source of that text.
> but, like you, I think that this reference is quite irrelevant in
> that Wikipedia article.
I agree. This is one single instance of one file that typically ends
in ".properties" that has these semantics. It's not even correct to
say that Apache Tomcat does this... it's really Apache mod_jk that
does this, and mod_jk isn't a Java program (though of course,
.properties isn't exclusive to the Java world). I'm sure that mod_jk
doesn't follow the exact rules of Java .properties specifications like
using \ as an escape character, trimming leading spaces, etc.
I think I'll update the Wikipedia article. Rather than removing the
text, I think I'll move it into another section and explain.
Thanks,
- -chris
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Re: Weird (apocryphal) reference to Tomcat in Wikipedia
Posted by André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com>.
Christopher Schultz wrote:
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> All,
>
> I was reading the Wikipedia entry on .properties format yesterday
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.properties) and I saw a mention of
> Apache Tomcat that doesn't make any kind of sense to me:
>
> "
> In Apache Tomcat the exclamation mark denotes a Negation operator when
> used as the first non blank character in a line[citation needed].
> "
>
> I'm the one that added the "[citation needed]" with a note that I
> think this is false.
>
> Does anyone know if there was some kind of ancient version of Tomcat
> that read its own .properties files and added some kind of magic to do
> what the above says? I think it's a complete fabrication with no basis
> in reality.
>
> Any ideas?
>
Maybe a very indirect reference to :
http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/reference/uriworkermap.html
(see : Exclusions and rule disabling)
but, like you, I think that this reference is quite irrelevant in that Wikipedia article.
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Re: Weird (apocryphal) reference to Tomcat in Wikipedia
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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All,
On 11/5/14 9:53 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
> All,
>
> I was reading the Wikipedia entry on .properties format yesterday
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.properties) and I saw a mention of
> Apache Tomcat that doesn't make any kind of sense to me:
>
> " In Apache Tomcat the exclamation mark denotes a Negation operator
> when used as the first non blank character in a line[citation
> needed]. "
>
> I'm the one that added the "[citation needed]" with a note that I
> think this is false.
>
> Does anyone know if there was some kind of ancient version of
> Tomcat that read its own .properties files and added some kind of
> magic to do what the above says? I think it's a complete
> fabrication with no basis in reality.
>
> Any ideas?
Leo pointed out that the Wikipedia page for Apache Tomcat is an
atrocity in and of itself. I would encourage anyone who has any free
time to go in there and make appropriate edits. I fixed the
introduction a bit today, but it looks like the whole thing could use
an overhaul.
- -chris
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