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[GitHub] [pulsar] Anonymitaet opened a new issue, #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Anonymitaet opened a new issue, #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538

   [We've launched the New Pulsar Website on May 11, 2022 (UTC +8).](https://lists.apache.org/thread/7nx3rm3cmpbw0ws1b62k17935xgyw2tj)
   
   Now everything goes fine except for a few known issues as below. 
   - [ ] Search function may not work very well
   - [ ] Some pages are not entirely translated
   - [ ] Some new contents are not completely ready
   <img width="1417" alt="image" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/50226895/167792907-42ca0152-5707-499a-a9fc-c6afc4615ef7.png">
   
   We're continually improving them all the time.
   Feel free to comment if you have any suggestions for the New Pulsar Website, thanks!
   
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] hpvd commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
hpvd commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1143375909

   @Anonymitaet 
   
   did some optimizations on the wave images, to cut size down (both are near 1 MB)
   to improve download time, client and server load...
   Got less than 1/3 for each image with IMHO near identically visual quality.
   
   just have a look:
   
   originals (downloaded from website):
   ![feature-waves-top_original-918KB](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5681880/171376152-eccf21e6-dce6-448a-ba74-7237b04b485e.png)
   ![feature-waves-btm_original-930KB](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5681880/171376155-7b83dbb7-0102-417f-8dce-52d4fa586542.png)
   
   optimized versions:
   ![feature-waves-btm_opti-267KB](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5681880/171376228-d300f0ac-0ced-4a63-962f-daf5783b5116.png)
   ![feature-waves-top_opti-259KB](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5681880/171376232-3ac70c80-ee62-48f1-b0cf-1b67650cb613.png)
   
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1127397614

   @hpvd thanks for your valuable suggestions! Adding badges to README.md is a good way to show community growth. 


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[GitHub] [pulsar] Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1132391173

   @hpvd @asafm I feel the same as you.
   
   Here is the feedback from the website designer team:
   > We've run the beta version of the new website for more than 3 months. The beta period has passed. The design was approved by the community and executed. As representatives to the community and members of the design team, we have to commit to the design that has been implemented. Once a decision is made, we support that decision. We can revisit in 3-6 months as needed and after appropriate usability testing, etc.
   
   But do not hesitate to add more comments! Suggestions are always welcome!
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] hpvd commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
hpvd commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1144745719

   @Anonymitaet please let your designer double check if quality target is reached with the new image versions.
   He/she could easily save the images from my comment and integrate them into the website.


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[GitHub] [pulsar] hpvd commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
hpvd commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1127527144

   two things that are not that great for seo (ranking in search engines) and accessibility:
   
   - alt tag of pulsar logo is misspelled
   - title of svg (images) are pretty generic 
   -
   ![2022-05-16_12h56_30](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5681880/168578738-1481ce84-c4b5-4aae-8620-a003fb62307c.png)
   
   ![2022-05-16_12h53_48](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5681880/168578811-fe606c12-80f6-4948-882e-e1a1f03e51f2.png)
   
   
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] tisonkun closed issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
tisonkun closed issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538


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[GitHub] [pulsar] tisonkun commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by "tisonkun (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
tisonkun commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1425281575

   @visortelle Good to know, lol.


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[GitHub] [pulsar] dave2wave commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
dave2wave commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1124513197

   Here's what I see on macOS Catalina, Firefox 99.0.1
   <img width="1187" alt="Screen Shot 2022-05-11 at 9 14 51 PM" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/29803617/167991114-1a03ab33-d692-48bb-b771-189c8e1c179d.png">
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] jinmu003 commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
jinmu003 commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1125615090

   Can we redesign this part?
   <img width="603" alt="Screen Shot 2022-05-12 at 8 09 32 PM" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/103222375/168204155-80c233ce-0d03-4d72-b089-61a8267d878b.png">
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1131369137

   > the visible structuring of blog-posts is not that clear, for comparison, simple release notes are much easier to understand/overview both at 100% zoom: 
   
   Hi @DaveDuggins you're the author of the 2.10.0 tech blog, any thoughts on this comment?
   
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] dave2wave commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
dave2wave commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1124511728

   > depending on browser used: the step is less or more visible (sceenshot was taken from firefox)
   > ![2022-05-11_13h17_08](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5681880/167837437-037e916c-60b7-49f1-a02d-ade90859e1a2.png)
   
   This is the animated sine wave graphic. @hpvd di this ever animate? What brower, version, and os are you on? Do you allow javascript or block it? 


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[GitHub] [pulsar] hpvd commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
hpvd commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1123576108

   looks awesome!!
   
   when looking in devtools (firefox) there seems to be a small error:
   ![2022-05-11_12h55_29](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5681880/167833801-44c6b9b7-7960-4722-9477-dc6b2050060e.png)
   
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] hpvd commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
hpvd commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1130067496

   doc/connectors:
   
   - tiny: should be plural (see attachment)
   - when following link to "elastic search" config: the menu disappears 
   https://pulsar.apache.org/docs/io-elasticsearch-sink/
   - "elastic" could not be found by search
   
   ![2022-05-18_16h03_01](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5681880/169061472-5685dbae-273b-47e2-bf17-a3c98dc28cd5.png)
   
   
   ![2022-05-18_16h03_46](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5681880/169061509-b8aed0f5-da30-4cee-a8be-afa09dcbc6c5.png)
   
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] github-actions[bot] commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

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[GitHub] [pulsar] hpvd commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
hpvd commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1127363866

   @Anonymitaet  showing github stars on the website as already planned in https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15550 task 4
   goes into the same direction as proposal in https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1126064195
   
   The other markers named there, goes more into detail and give every prospect/interested party and also existing users a great peace of mind to use / to start using pulsar - it could perfectly argued/justified to rely on pulsar (beside the great feature sets) even in large projects...


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[GitHub] [pulsar] hpvd commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
hpvd commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1130120862

   the visible structuring of blog-posts is not that clear,
   for comparison, simple release notes are much easier to understand
   - both at 100% zoom:
   ![2022-05-18_16h46_24](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5681880/169071806-28c1226f-eca0-4e01-9a87-d2a0d5acbea5.png)
   
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] hpvd commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
hpvd commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1124613941

   @dave2wave
   in other environments it's visible but not that extreme:
   
   always latest browser versions:
   
   
   ![2022-05-12_08h55_06](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5681880/168012331-efcc1db6-f056-4751-bba4-cb4b119fb494.png)
   ![2022-05-12_08h57_05](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5681880/168012336-d4fdb080-3fe6-47e8-ab21-21414da39b86.png)
   ![2022-05-12_09h02_07](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5681880/168012339-65005449-39b8-4afb-8a00-dcc8d20afab5.png)
   
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1128269025

   @hpvd good catch! We'll update them


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[GitHub] [pulsar] tisonkun commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
tisonkun commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1339107919

   Closed as delivered.


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[GitHub] [pulsar] hpvd commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
hpvd commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1124612193

   @dave2wave 
   
   seems like a grabbed an extreme case with Firefox 100 @ W10 @ 4K screen, everything is animated perfectly, js active..
   ![2022-05-11_13h17_08](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5681880/168011964-2ec6b069-b4aa-4a8f-8b46-38c4cd11995b.png)
   
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1125602899

   I got much negative feedback about the **blue** background color, it **decreases readability significantly**. 
   
   They prefer the **white** background color as before, which looks more clearly.
   
   Feel free to +1 if you feel the same, thanks!


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[GitHub] [pulsar] Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1127398093

   @dave2wave Pulsar Website User Survey and Slack.


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[GitHub] [pulsar] Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1129481570

   @zhaoyajun2009 thanks for your feedback! We need to check other people's thoughts on this.
   If you feel the same, please 👍 


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[GitHub] [pulsar] Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1131367506

   @hpvd thanks for your feedback! Please see my interlined reply: 
   
   > * tiny: should be plural (see attachment)
   
   OK, we're redesigning the Pulsar Information Architecture. Re-constructing the connector doc is on the way. 
   / cc @D-2-Ed @DaveDuggins @momo-jun 
   
   > * when following link to "elastic search" config: the menu disappears
   >   https://pulsar.apache.org/docs/io-elasticsearch-sink/
   
   All connectors do not have the left navigation. They only have the right panel.
   
   > * "elastic" could not be found by search
   
   `Search does not work properly` is a known issue recorded [here](https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538).
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] visortelle commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by "visortelle (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
visortelle commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1425266824

   I'm watching @sijie's video on YouTube and the website looks much more readable and modern than it looks now.
   
   <img width="1438" alt="Screenshot 2023-02-10 at 7 44 50 AM" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/9302460/218021524-17c7200a-b338-435f-8871-4d9870fd7ece.png">
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1124503966

   > it's a little bit irritating that not the latest release is advertised (probably missing blog content...maybe linking to changelog https://github.com/apache/pulsar/releases/tag/v2.10.0 ?) ![2022-05-11_13h11_05](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5681880/167836690-051a5569-34b2-4d52-80c5-7b371f2b61c5.png)
   
   @hpvd Now the latest tech blog is 2.9.2. 
   2.10 tech blog is not available, @DaveDuggins is working on it, stay tuned. 
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1124502948

   @hpvd Thanks for raising this up! @Paul-TT will look into #1 and #3 issues.


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[GitHub] [pulsar] dave2wave commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
dave2wave commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1126545297

   > We got much negative feedback about the **blue** background color, it **decreases readability significantly**.
   
   Who is the "we" here? On what channel was this feedback received?


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[GitHub] [pulsar] hpvd commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
hpvd commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1126064195

   what do think of documenting and highlighting the project quality with hard facts and numbers
   using automatic badges summarizing some interesting/important quality markers?
   
   e.g.
   activity: date of latest commit, latest release, number of contributers
   check status: tests, owasp-dep-check
   popularity: number of downloads
   
   this could be done either on the new website
   or in the readme.md shown on github (or both:-)
   
   for how to see:
   
   https://docs.github.com/en/actions/monitoring-and-troubleshooting-workflows/adding-a-workflow-status-badge
   
   and search for github on https://shields.io/


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[GitHub] [pulsar] Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1144582257

   Hi @hpvd thanks for your great idea, that makes sense! Would you like to replace the old one with the new image? Please submit the new image to [pulsar repo](https://github.com/apache/pulsar). Thanks!
   
   cc @Paul-TT 


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[GitHub] [pulsar] asafm commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
asafm commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1131942219

   Notes on Main Page
   ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/989425/169349752-59a9b9cb-2721-4850-8d8a-0defe6befa69.png)
   
   1. Background color: I can express this technically as I'm not a designer, but I can say it doesn't feel right. Something about the contrast to the other colors on the page and that vague color to it, instead more bright and vivid colors, broadcast that sense of "gloominess" to it. Not sure I'm expressing my self correctly  - it's just doesn't feel right :)
   2. The following items - Search bar, Sun, Github stars - just seem to be in the wrong place visually. It creates a big whitespace gap and the alignment and spacing between them is not symmetrical. It's just fees like they are in the wrong place.
   3. Logo positioning and white space - it's as if it's just thrown out there without any "anchor" to it, maybe due to the large whitespace this opening part of the main page has in general.
   
   **Docs section**
   ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/989425/169351900-145073a6-4ae2-4d7c-bcfe-4ec2b736bf90.png)
   
   1. There is a very large section of whitespace between the actual docs content to the upper section (bar).
   2. The logo looks mis-aligned relative to the content section below IMO, as if it is just "thrown there" in metaphorical speaking.
   
   IMO we should aim for a more "neat"/clean look, maybe in it's own page like [here](https://docs.pinot.apache.org)?
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1125704135

   Hi @jinmu003 thanks for your feedback! Can you explain more about your requirements? Do you mean re-categorize the industries or something else?
   
   P.S. We plan to [add filters for the Case Studies page](https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15550) to keep things organized.  . 
   <img width="954" alt="image" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/50226895/168224688-82d3a5a0-1dcb-46df-bfb3-a0f9dc9b943c.png">
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] zhaoyajun2009 commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
zhaoyajun2009 commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1128978146

   It is too much white space!
   <img width="1677" alt="image" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/92070379/168842667-f8569fe4-0227-429f-a8e7-39d19603d342.png">
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
Anonymitaet commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1129481780

   > It is too much white space! <img alt="image" width="1677" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/92070379/168842667-f8569fe4-0227-429f-a8e7-39d19603d342.png">
   
   @zhaoyajun2009 thanks for your feedback! We need to check other people's thoughts on this.
   If you feel the same, please 👍 on @zhaoyajun2009's comment. 
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] hpvd commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
hpvd commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1131407977

   @Anonymitaet  regarding blog structure, it's possibly mostly about predifined css for different elements (headlines, p, lists) like
   - font sizes 
   - whitespaces
   - margins/intend
   - ...
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] hpvd commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
hpvd commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1123592562

   it's a little bit irritating that not the latest release is advertised (probably missing blog content...maybe linking to changelog https://github.com/apache/pulsar/releases/tag/v2.10.0 ?)
   ![2022-05-11_13h11_05](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5681880/167836690-051a5569-34b2-4d52-80c5-7b371f2b61c5.png)
   
   


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[GitHub] [pulsar] hpvd commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
hpvd commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1123594477

   stunning fast!


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[GitHub] [pulsar] hpvd commented on issue #15538: [Discussion] New Pulsar Website

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
hpvd commented on issue #15538:
URL: https://github.com/apache/pulsar/issues/15538#issuecomment-1123595894

   depending on browser used: the step is less or more visible:
   ![2022-05-11_13h17_08](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/5681880/167837437-037e916c-60b7-49f1-a02d-ade90859e1a2.png)
   
   


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