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Posted to jdo-dev@db.apache.org by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com> on 2005/05/29 22:26:13 UTC

Apache JDO

Craig Russell wrote:

> Google "Apache JDO" and you get a hit for Apache OJB. You would never
> guess that we're building the API and TCK for JDO 2.0 here.

> Apache JDO has a sponsor, committers, a repository, a JIRA, and wiki
> pages. It's just not visible on the incubator pages.

> Can you or someone help fix this lack of visibility?

Sure.  Where is the project's web site?  I see:

  http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jdo

but I don't see any web content.  Has the project done anything about web
content?

As an even higher priority, I do not see the status file for JDO in SVN:

  http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/proje
cts/

That should have been done from the get go, and must be done ASAP.  I have
sent e-mail on that separately.

	--- Noel


RE: Apache JDO

Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Craig Russell wrote:

> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > Craig Russell wrote:
>>> Google "Apache JDO" and you get a hit for Apache OJB. You would never
>>> guess that we're building the API and TCK for JDO 2.0 here.
>>>
>>> Apache JDO has a sponsor, committers, a repository, a JIRA, and wiki
>>> pages. It's just not visible on the incubator pages.
>>
>>> Can you or someone help fix this lack of visibility?
>>
>> Sure.  Where is the project's web site?  I see:
>>   http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jdo
> That's the svn repository.

Right.  As I said, I don't see any web content.
>>  Has the project done anything about web content?
> Not that I'm aware of. We have been focused on the repository and the
> wiki instead of web content. The wiki is at http://wiki.apache.org/jdo/.

Mostly for performance reasons, we do not permit spidering of the Wiki.
The hit is just too high.  We're hoping that can change after we update
the OS and maybe get some other changes into place.

Much of what I see on the Wiki is static content suitable to be moved to a
normal static site under http://incubator.apache.org/jdo describing the
project.  Doing so is one of the project's responsibilities.  Your
mentor(s) should be able to help with that effort.  If not, please let us
know.

	--- Noel

RE: Apache JDO

Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Craig Russell wrote:

> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > Craig Russell wrote:
>>> Google "Apache JDO" and you get a hit for Apache OJB. You would never
>>> guess that we're building the API and TCK for JDO 2.0 here.
>>>
>>> Apache JDO has a sponsor, committers, a repository, a JIRA, and wiki
>>> pages. It's just not visible on the incubator pages.
>>
>>> Can you or someone help fix this lack of visibility?
>>
>> Sure.  Where is the project's web site?  I see:
>>   http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jdo
> That's the svn repository.

Right.  As I said, I don't see any web content.
>>  Has the project done anything about web content?
> Not that I'm aware of. We have been focused on the repository and the
> wiki instead of web content. The wiki is at http://wiki.apache.org/jdo/.

Mostly for performance reasons, we do not permit spidering of the Wiki.
The hit is just too high.  We're hoping that can change after we update
the OS and maybe get some other changes into place.

Much of what I see on the Wiki is static content suitable to be moved to a
normal static site under http://incubator.apache.org/jdo describing the
project.  Doing so is one of the project's responsibilities.  Your
mentor(s) should be able to help with that effort.  If not, please let us
know.

	--- Noel

Re: Apache JDO

Posted by Craig Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
Hi Noel,

On May 29, 2005, at 1:26 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:

> Craig Russell wrote:
>
>> Google "Apache JDO" and you get a hit for Apache OJB. You would never
>> guess that we're building the API and TCK for JDO 2.0 here.
>
>> Apache JDO has a sponsor, committers, a repository, a JIRA, and wiki
>> pages. It's just not visible on the incubator pages.
>
>> Can you or someone help fix this lack of visibility?
>
> Sure.  Where is the project's web site?  I see:
>
>   http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jdo

That's the svn repository.
>
> but I don't see any web content.  Has the project done anything about  
> web
> content?

Not that I'm aware of. We have been focused on the repository and the  
wiki instead of web content. The wiki is at  
http://wiki.apache.org/jdo/.
>
> As an even higher priority, I do not see the status file for JDO in  
> SVN:
>
>    
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/ 
> projects/
>
> That should have been done from the get go, and must be done ASAP.  I  
> have
> sent e-mail on that separately.

Thanks for your assistance on this.

Craig
>
> 	--- Noel
>
>
Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

Re: Apache JDO

Posted by Craig Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
Hi Noel,

On May 29, 2005, at 1:26 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:

> Craig Russell wrote:
>
>> Google "Apache JDO" and you get a hit for Apache OJB. You would never
>> guess that we're building the API and TCK for JDO 2.0 here.
>
>> Apache JDO has a sponsor, committers, a repository, a JIRA, and wiki
>> pages. It's just not visible on the incubator pages.
>
>> Can you or someone help fix this lack of visibility?
>
> Sure.  Where is the project's web site?  I see:
>
>   http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/jdo

That's the svn repository.
>
> but I don't see any web content.  Has the project done anything about  
> web
> content?

Not that I'm aware of. We have been focused on the repository and the  
wiki instead of web content. The wiki is at  
http://wiki.apache.org/jdo/.
>
> As an even higher priority, I do not see the status file for JDO in  
> SVN:
>
>    
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/ 
> projects/
>
> That should have been done from the get go, and must be done ASAP.  I  
> have
> sent e-mail on that separately.

Thanks for your assistance on this.

Craig
>
> 	--- Noel
>
>
Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!