Fwd: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

[SamuelKevin <lo...@gmail.com>]

Hi, All:
     Based on what Noel has suggested. I believe we should give a timeline
to following four terms:
    1) All current code in the ASF repository.
    2) All development via ASF accounts (get the rest of the people signed
    up).
    3) Ddevelopment discussion on the mailing list.
    4) All licensing issues cleaned up.
   According to my experience of preparing the first release candidate, we
need about 1 week to clean up source code、generate related documents. So far
as i know , there is only one module violates ASL, but we could replace it
within 3 days. The signed up of core developers may cost some time. Make it
1 week to finish. We might could be ready with the newest release candidate
in 1 month.
guys, ring me your bone.
regards,
Kevin

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com>
Date: 2011/6/30
Subject: RE: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!
To: general@incubator.apache.org


Joe Schaefer wrote:
> Chen Liu wrote:
> > We propose to move future development of BlueSky to the Apache Software
> > Foundation in order to build a broader user and developer community.

> You are supposed to be doing your development work in the ASF subversion
> repository, using ASF mailing lists, as peers.

Chen, as Joe points out, these are what BlueSky should have been doing for
the past three (3) years, and yet we still here a proposal for the future.

> Looking at the (limited) commit history, there is a total imbalance
between
> the number of people associated with the development work (20+) and the
> number of people with Apache accounts here (2).

Again, as Joe points out, ALL of BlueSky development should been done via
the ASF infrastructure, not periodically synchronized.  We are a development
community, not a remote archive.

> What we really need you to discuss are *plans*, how you will implement
them,
> who will implement them, and how you will collaborate in the codebase as
peers.

Joe, again, has this on the money.  The BlueSky project must immediately
make significant strides to rectify these issues.  Now, not later.

We should see:

 1) All current code in the ASF repository.
 2) All development via ASF accounts (get the rest of the people signed
up).
 3) Ddevelopment discussion on the mailing list.
 4) All licensing issues cleaned up.

       --- Noel



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Bowen Ma a.k.a Samuel Kevin @ Bluesky Dev Team    XJTU
Shaanxi Province Key Lab. of Satellite and Terrestrial Network Tech
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Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!

[Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>]

2011/6/30 SamuelKevin <lo...@gmail.com>:
> Hi, All:
>     Based on what Noel has suggested. I believe we should give a timeline
> to following four terms:
>    1) All current code in the ASF repository.
>    2) All development via ASF accounts (get the rest of the people signed
>    up).
>    3) Ddevelopment discussion on the mailing list.
>    4) All licensing issues cleaned up.
>   According to my experience of preparing the first release candidate, we
> need about 1 week to clean up source code、generate related documents. So far
> as i know , there is only one module violates ASL, but we could replace it
> within 3 days. The signed up of core developers may cost some time. Make it
> 1 week to finish. We might could be ready with the newest release candidate
> in 1 month.
> guys, ring me your bone.
> regards,
> Kevin

I think Bluesky is not ready to become an Apache project now. As it
turns out, your goal was too ambitious. Do one step at a time. I
strongly encourage that you open source Bluesky, but not at Apache.
Many projects which are already established open source projects come
here and still find it hard to learn Apache. Then, later you might
come here and find it much less frustrating to do Incubation.

  Bernd