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Posted to users@cocoon.apache.org by Mark Washeim <es...@canuck.com> on 2000/05/30 21:27:51 UTC
It's early but it's coming...
Hej, all. Ok, this is a tease, but it's going to be pretty bloody hot in the
kitchen soon, soooooo....
http://195.42.213.219/editorial/toctraverse.xml?lang=gb&toc=1
That's www.eurofootball.com, just the data, no pretty stuff...
I'm still adding in some sql taglib driven pages.
To give you some idea of what this will amount to:
we expect up to 100,000 visitors every day during Euro 2000.
sigh. well, so far so good. I'm probably going to be flooding you guys with
optimization questions, shortly. :)
By the weekend, it'll have it's skin (ie, look like www.eurofootball.com)
Wish us luck :)
--
Mark (Poetaster) Washeim
'On the linen wrappings of certain mummified remains
found near the Etrurian coast are invaluable writings
that await translation.
Quem colorem habet sapientia?'
Evan S. Connell
Re: It's early but it's coming...
Posted by Mark Washeim <es...@canuck.com>.
on 31/5/00 11:01 am, Jari Aarniala at jari.aarniala@ioboxgroup.com wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Washeim <es...@canuck.com>
> To: <co...@xml.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:27 PM
> Subject: It's early but it's coming...
>
>
> : Hej, all. Ok, this is a tease, but it's going to be pretty bloody hot in
> the
> : kitchen soon, soooooo....
> :
> : http://195.42.213.219/editorial/toctraverse.xml?lang=gb&toc=1
> :
> : That's www.eurofootball.com, just the data, no pretty stuff...
>
> This is the same site I´ve seen heavily advertised on MTV? Geez, good luck!
>
> Jari
Yeah, told you it was going to get hot in the kitchen. Sigh....
--
Mark (Poetaster) Washeim
'On the linen wrappings of certain mummified remains
found near the Etrurian coast are invaluable writings
that await translation.
Quem colorem habet sapientia?'
Evan S. Connell
Re: AW: AW: It's early but it's coming...
Posted by Mark Washeim <es...@canuck.com>.
on 31/5/00 12:26 pm, Matthew Langham at mlangham@sundn.de wrote:
>>>>
>>
>> Looks good :-). How does the Cocoon generated stuff tie in to the "glossy"
>> part (www.eurofootball.com)? How many "hits" are you expecting Cocoon to
>> handle?
>>
>
> The glossy part is just the finished XSL/HTML. I'm adapting that
> (www.eurofootball.com) xsl currently to work with the final data structs....
>
> We're expecting upwards of 50,000 user sessions a day during Euro 2000
> <<<
>
> 50,001 :-)
>
> What hardware is it running on? Which web-server are you using?
>
> Matthew
2 (3) Enterprise 250s, 2 processor, 1 gb ram each, IBMHTTPd( AKA, Apache
1.3.6), WebSphere 2.0
--
Mark (Poetaster) Washeim
'On the linen wrappings of certain mummified remains
found near the Etrurian coast are invaluable writings
that await translation.
Quem colorem habet sapientia?'
Evan S. Connell
AW: AW: It's early but it's coming...
Posted by Matthew Langham <ml...@sundn.de>.
>>>
>
> Looks good :-). How does the Cocoon generated stuff tie in to the "glossy"
> part (www.eurofootball.com)? How many "hits" are you expecting Cocoon to
> handle?
>
The glossy part is just the finished XSL/HTML. I'm adapting that
(www.eurofootball.com) xsl currently to work with the final data structs....
We're expecting upwards of 50,000 user sessions a day during Euro 2000
<<<
50,001 :-)
What hardware is it running on? Which web-server are you using?
Matthew
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Re: AW: It's early but it's coming...
Posted by Mark Washeim <es...@canuck.com>.
on 31/5/00 11:39 am, Matthew Langham at mlangham@sundn.de wrote:
> : Hej, all. Ok, this is a tease, but it's going to be pretty bloody hot in
> the
> : kitchen soon, soooooo....
> :
> : http://195.42.213.219/editorial/toctraverse.xml?lang=gb&toc=1
> :
> : That's www.eurofootball.com, just the data, no pretty stuff...
>
> Looks good :-). How does the Cocoon generated stuff tie in to the "glossy"
> part (www.eurofootball.com)? How many "hits" are you expecting Cocoon to
> handle?
>
The glossy part is just the finished XSL/HTML. I'm adapting that
(www.eurofootball.com) xsl currently to work with the final data structs....
We're expecting upwards of 50,000 user sessions a day during Euro 2000
--
Mark (Poetaster) Washeim
'On the linen wrappings of certain mummified remains
found near the Etrurian coast are invaluable writings
that await translation.
Quem colorem habet sapientia?'
Evan S. Connell
AW: It's early but it's coming...
Posted by Matthew Langham <ml...@sundn.de>.
: Hej, all. Ok, this is a tease, but it's going to be pretty bloody hot in
the
: kitchen soon, soooooo....
:
: http://195.42.213.219/editorial/toctraverse.xml?lang=gb&toc=1
:
: That's www.eurofootball.com, just the data, no pretty stuff...
Looks good :-). How does the Cocoon generated stuff tie in to the "glossy"
part (www.eurofootball.com)? How many "hits" are you expecting Cocoon to
handle?
Matthew
--
=================================================================
Matthew Langham, S&N AG, Klingenderstrasse 5, D-33100 Paderborn
Tel: +49-5251-1581-30 [mlangham@sundn.de - http://www.sundn.de]
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Re: It's early but it's coming...
Posted by Jari Aarniala <ja...@ioboxgroup.com>.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Washeim <es...@canuck.com>
To: <co...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:27 PM
Subject: It's early but it's coming...
: Hej, all. Ok, this is a tease, but it's going to be pretty bloody hot in
the
: kitchen soon, soooooo....
:
: http://195.42.213.219/editorial/toctraverse.xml?lang=gb&toc=1
:
: That's www.eurofootball.com, just the data, no pretty stuff...
This is the same site I´ve seen heavily advertised on MTV? Geez, good luck!
Jari
Re: It's early but it's coming...
Posted by sudhi <su...@planet.net>.
One thing I noticed was, If I dont accept cookies, language defaults to
english.
FYI
By the way, how do u fetch different language pages ?
Did u write ur own producer ?
~S
Berin Loritsch wrote:
>
> Any hints on optimizations? Granted it isn't being hit hard, but It's hard
> to come by processing times like you have on the test site.
>
> Also, what kind of hardware is this thing running on?
>
> Mark Washeim wrote:
>
> > on 30/5/00 10:21 pm, Berin Loritsch at bloritsch@infoplanning.com wrote:
> >
> > > Looks pretty good. Hopefully the skin you are working on won't use nested
> > > tables--they make the site feel slow (although the average server side
> > > processing
> > > was impressively quick).
> > >
> > > Mark Washeim wrote:
> > >
> >
> > Sadly, the HTML requires a certain amount of table nesting. I wish it had
> > been done using css and, perhaps dhtml, but, it's been a very driven project
> > (38 projects for the same client with a staff of 15)...
> >
> > I'm working on skinning it, but, you can see what it will be like at :
> > http://www.eurofootball.com
> >
> > That site is generated using xalan and xerces and a very poorly designed
> > servlet (data is the same)....
> >
> > --
> > Mark (Poetaster) Washeim
> >
> > 'On the linen wrappings of certain mummified remains
> > found near the Etrurian coast are invaluable writings
> > that await translation.
> >
> > Quem colorem habet sapientia?'
> >
> > Evan S. Connell
> >
> >
> >
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Re: It's early but it's coming...
Posted by Mark Washeim <es...@canuck.com>.
on 30/5/00 10:48 pm, Berin Loritsch at bloritsch@infoplanning.com wrote:
> Any hints on optimizations? Granted it isn't being hit hard, but It's hard
> to come by processing times like you have on the test site.
>
> Also, what kind of hardware is this thing running on?
>
> Mark Washeim wrote:
>
Smile. The framework itself is 'optimising'. Believe it or not, there is a
tremendous amount of file io going which, in java applications, is often
deadly. (There are at least 7 documents required per page instance !). The
reliance on documents was dictated by the document management system (called
easy update).
Smile. The second optimization IS the hardware.
Sun Enterprise 250, 2 processors, 1 gb RAM, 120 gb disk array.
Running IBMs apache (1.3.6 ++++)
and WebSphere (sadly, version 2)
WebSphere is really not being utilized as it should though.
I have to emphasise that, under load, we'll be very dependant on the
performance of the object cache.
Currently what you're looking at is a single XSP page acting as a 'template'
into which documents are populated. A custom logicsheet is being used (as
well as the Util and Request).
...
--
Mark (Poetaster) Washeim
'On the linen wrappings of certain mummified remains
found near the Etrurian coast are invaluable writings
that await translation.
Quem colorem habet sapientia?'
Evan S. Connell
Re: It's early but it's coming...
Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@infoplanning.com>.
Any hints on optimizations? Granted it isn't being hit hard, but It's hard
to come by processing times like you have on the test site.
Also, what kind of hardware is this thing running on?
Mark Washeim wrote:
> on 30/5/00 10:21 pm, Berin Loritsch at bloritsch@infoplanning.com wrote:
>
> > Looks pretty good. Hopefully the skin you are working on won't use nested
> > tables--they make the site feel slow (although the average server side
> > processing
> > was impressively quick).
> >
> > Mark Washeim wrote:
> >
>
> Sadly, the HTML requires a certain amount of table nesting. I wish it had
> been done using css and, perhaps dhtml, but, it's been a very driven project
> (38 projects for the same client with a staff of 15)...
>
> I'm working on skinning it, but, you can see what it will be like at :
> http://www.eurofootball.com
>
> That site is generated using xalan and xerces and a very poorly designed
> servlet (data is the same)....
>
> --
> Mark (Poetaster) Washeim
>
> 'On the linen wrappings of certain mummified remains
> found near the Etrurian coast are invaluable writings
> that await translation.
>
> Quem colorem habet sapientia?'
>
> Evan S. Connell
>
>
>
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Re: It's early but it's coming...
Posted by Mark Washeim <es...@canuck.com>.
on 30/5/00 10:21 pm, Berin Loritsch at bloritsch@infoplanning.com wrote:
> Looks pretty good. Hopefully the skin you are working on won't use nested
> tables--they make the site feel slow (although the average server side
> processing
> was impressively quick).
>
> Mark Washeim wrote:
>
Sadly, the HTML requires a certain amount of table nesting. I wish it had
been done using css and, perhaps dhtml, but, it's been a very driven project
(38 projects for the same client with a staff of 15)...
I'm working on skinning it, but, you can see what it will be like at :
http://www.eurofootball.com
That site is generated using xalan and xerces and a very poorly designed
servlet (data is the same)....
--
Mark (Poetaster) Washeim
'On the linen wrappings of certain mummified remains
found near the Etrurian coast are invaluable writings
that await translation.
Quem colorem habet sapientia?'
Evan S. Connell
Re: It's early but it's coming...
Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@infoplanning.com>.
Looks pretty good. Hopefully the skin you are working on won't use nested
tables--they make the site feel slow (although the average server side
processing
was impressively quick).
Mark Washeim wrote:
> Hej, all. Ok, this is a tease, but it's going to be pretty bloody hot in the
> kitchen soon, soooooo....
>
> http://195.42.213.219/editorial/toctraverse.xml?lang=gb&toc=1
>
> That's www.eurofootball.com, just the data, no pretty stuff...
>
> I'm still adding in some sql taglib driven pages.
>
> To give you some idea of what this will amount to:
> we expect up to 100,000 visitors every day during Euro 2000.
>
> sigh. well, so far so good. I'm probably going to be flooding you guys with
> optimization questions, shortly. :)
>
> By the weekend, it'll have it's skin (ie, look like www.eurofootball.com)
>
> Wish us luck :)
>
> --
> Mark (Poetaster) Washeim
>
> 'On the linen wrappings of certain mummified remains
> found near the Etrurian coast are invaluable writings
> that await translation.
>
> Quem colorem habet sapientia?'
>
> Evan S. Connell
>
>
>
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RE: It's early but it's coming...
Posted by JJD <jj...@home.com>.
Hi Mark Washeim: You got my best wishes. I only wish I was in your team at
present, but perhaps another time. Till later JJD (from NJ)
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Washeim [mailto:esalon@canuck.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 3:28 PM
To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
Subject: It's early but it's coming...
Hej, all. Ok, this is a tease, but it's going to be pretty bloody hot in the
kitchen soon, soooooo....
http://195.42.213.219/editorial/toctraverse.xml?lang=gb&toc=1
That's www.eurofootball.com, just the data, no pretty stuff...
I'm still adding in some sql taglib driven pages.
To give you some idea of what this will amount to:
we expect up to 100,000 visitors every day during Euro 2000.
sigh. well, so far so good. I'm probably going to be flooding you guys with
optimization questions, shortly. :)
By the weekend, it'll have it's skin (ie, look like www.eurofootball.com)
Wish us luck :)
--
Mark (Poetaster) Washeim
'On the linen wrappings of certain mummified remains
found near the Etrurian coast are invaluable writings
that await translation.
Quem colorem habet sapientia?'
Evan S. Connell
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