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Posted to dev@river.apache.org by Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au> on 2010/05/02 13:17:43 UTC
Jini Surrogate
Any objections to integrating net.jini.surrogate and it's subproject
ipinterconnect to Apache River?
This allows non Java programs, devices etc to participate and it's
easier for me to make some updates.
Cheers,
Peter.
Re: Jini Surrogate jcs-pna-covenant.txt
Posted by Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>.
Is this the complete Covenant?
http://web.archive.org/web/20051025223600/http://www.jini.org/standards/docs/jcs-pna-covenant.txt
Peter Firmstone wrote:
> I can't find the covenant anywhere, does anyone know its whereabouts?
>
> Surrogate was uploaded from jini.org, so it would be desireable to
> ascertain if the covenant covers surrogate as well.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter.
>
> To quote Jim Hurley from jini-users:
>
> Sun is re-licensing its Jini technology Standard specifications under
> ALv2 and providing a separate "Jini Community Standards Patent
> Non-Assertion Covenant ("Covenant") that enables others to create
> unrestricted independent implementations of the specifications. This
> Covenant is available at:
> http://www.jini.org/standards/docs/jcs-pna-covenant.txt
>
> This choice of ALv2, as well as the wording of the Covenant, were made
> with the hope and expectation that they be used by many others in
> the Jini
> Community to share their Jini technology code and Standards Proposals.
> License choice is now a freedom that developers and companies in the
> Jini
> Community have for their Jini technology works. It is hoped that Sun's
> lead with ALv2 will help act as a catalyst for others to choose ALv2
> for
> their shared works. The resulting commonality around ALv2 will help
> simplify
> and facilitate code sharing and collaboration throughout the Jini
> Community.
>
> Craig L Russell wrote:
>> We still need to establish provenance for this code. Who wrote it?
>> Are we sure they wrote it and have the right(s) to publish it?
>>
>> Just because you can find some code on the internet that looks like
>> it is licensed under a compatible license doesn't mean we can use it.
>> We need to establish the bona fides of the presumed authors.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> On May 2, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>>
>>> No, I knew it was available. Just wasn't sure if it was covered under
>>> the Sun contribution to avoid legal entanglements.
>>>
>>> -jeff
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>> No, it's available on java.net under an Apache 2 license, last
>>>> commit was in
>>>> 2006, a good idea to grab it while we can.
>>>>
>>>> If there are no objections, I'll include it.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Peter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd love to see it salvaged. Was it covered in the original
>>>>> contribution?
>>>>>
>>>>> -jeff
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any objections to integrating net.jini.surrogate and it's subproject
>>>>>> ipinterconnect to Apache River?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This allows non Java programs, devices etc to participate and
>>>>>> it's easier
>>>>>> for me to make some updates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> Craig L Russell
>> Architect, Oracle
>> http://db.apache.org/jdo
>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Jini Surrogate jcs-pna-covenant.txt
Posted by Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>.
I can't find the covenant anywhere, does anyone know its whereabouts?
Surrogate was uploaded from jini.org, so it would be desireable to
ascertain if the covenant covers surrogate as well.
Regards,
Peter.
To quote Jim Hurley from jini-users:
Sun is re-licensing its Jini technology Standard specifications under
ALv2 and providing a separate "Jini Community Standards Patent
Non-Assertion Covenant ("Covenant") that enables others to create
unrestricted independent implementations of the specifications. This
Covenant is available at:
http://www.jini.org/standards/docs/jcs-pna-covenant.txt
This choice of ALv2, as well as the wording of the Covenant, were made
with the hope and expectation that they be used by many others in the
Jini
Community to share their Jini technology code and Standards Proposals.
License choice is now a freedom that developers and companies in the
Jini
Community have for their Jini technology works. It is hoped that Sun's
lead with ALv2 will help act as a catalyst for others to choose ALv2 for
their shared works. The resulting commonality around ALv2 will help
simplify
and facilitate code sharing and collaboration throughout the Jini
Community.
Craig L Russell wrote:
> We still need to establish provenance for this code. Who wrote it? Are
> we sure they wrote it and have the right(s) to publish it?
>
> Just because you can find some code on the internet that looks like it
> is licensed under a compatible license doesn't mean we can use it. We
> need to establish the bona fides of the presumed authors.
>
> Craig
>
> On May 2, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>
>> No, I knew it was available. Just wasn't sure if it was covered under
>> the Sun contribution to avoid legal entanglements.
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>
>> wrote:
>>> No, it's available on java.net under an Apache 2 license, last
>>> commit was in
>>> 2006, a good idea to grab it while we can.
>>>
>>> If there are no objections, I'll include it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Peter.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to see it salvaged. Was it covered in the original
>>>> contribution?
>>>>
>>>> -jeff
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any objections to integrating net.jini.surrogate and it's subproject
>>>>> ipinterconnect to Apache River?
>>>>>
>>>>> This allows non Java programs, devices etc to participate and it's
>>>>> easier
>>>>> for me to make some updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> Craig L Russell
> Architect, Oracle
> http://db.apache.org/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>
>
Re: Jini Surrogate
Posted by Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>.
OK,
What do I need to do?
Craig L Russell wrote:
> We still need to establish provenance for this code. Who wrote it? Are
> we sure they wrote it and have the right(s) to publish it?
>
> Just because you can find some code on the internet that looks like it
> is licensed under a compatible license doesn't mean we can use it. We
> need to establish the bona fides of the presumed authors.
>
> Craig
>
> On May 2, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>
>> No, I knew it was available. Just wasn't sure if it was covered under
>> the Sun contribution to avoid legal entanglements.
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>
>> wrote:
>>> No, it's available on java.net under an Apache 2 license, last
>>> commit was in
>>> 2006, a good idea to grab it while we can.
>>>
>>> If there are no objections, I'll include it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Peter.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to see it salvaged. Was it covered in the original
>>>> contribution?
>>>>
>>>> -jeff
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any objections to integrating net.jini.surrogate and it's subproject
>>>>> ipinterconnect to Apache River?
>>>>>
>>>>> This allows non Java programs, devices etc to participate and it's
>>>>> easier
>>>>> for me to make some updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> Craig L Russell
> Architect, Oracle
> http://db.apache.org/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>
>
Re: Jini Surrogate
Posted by Craig L Russell <cr...@oracle.com>.
We still need to establish provenance for this code. Who wrote it? Are
we sure they wrote it and have the right(s) to publish it?
Just because you can find some code on the internet that looks like it
is licensed under a compatible license doesn't mean we can use it. We
need to establish the bona fides of the presumed authors.
Craig
On May 2, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
> No, I knew it was available. Just wasn't sure if it was covered under
> the Sun contribution to avoid legal entanglements.
>
> -jeff
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>
> wrote:
>> No, it's available on java.net under an Apache 2 license, last
>> commit was in
>> 2006, a good idea to grab it while we can.
>>
>> If there are no objections, I'll include it.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Peter.
>>
>>
>> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd love to see it salvaged. Was it covered in the original
>>> contribution?
>>>
>>> -jeff
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any objections to integrating net.jini.surrogate and it's
>>>> subproject
>>>> ipinterconnect to Apache River?
>>>>
>>>> This allows non Java programs, devices etc to participate and
>>>> it's easier
>>>> for me to make some updates.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Peter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
Re: Jini Surrogate
Posted by Jeff Ramsdale <je...@gmail.com>.
No, I knew it was available. Just wasn't sure if it was covered under
the Sun contribution to avoid legal entanglements.
-jeff
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au> wrote:
> No, it's available on java.net under an Apache 2 license, last commit was in
> 2006, a good idea to grab it while we can.
>
> If there are no objections, I'll include it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter.
>
>
> Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
>>
>> I'd love to see it salvaged. Was it covered in the original contribution?
>>
>> -jeff
>>
>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Any objections to integrating net.jini.surrogate and it's subproject
>>> ipinterconnect to Apache River?
>>>
>>> This allows non Java programs, devices etc to participate and it's easier
>>> for me to make some updates.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Peter.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Jini Surrogate
Posted by Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>.
No, it's available on java.net under an Apache 2 license, last commit
was in 2006, a good idea to grab it while we can.
If there are no objections, I'll include it.
Regards,
Peter.
Jeff Ramsdale wrote:
> I'd love to see it salvaged. Was it covered in the original contribution?
>
> -jeff
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au> wrote:
>
>> Any objections to integrating net.jini.surrogate and it's subproject
>> ipinterconnect to Apache River?
>>
>> This allows non Java programs, devices etc to participate and it's easier
>> for me to make some updates.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Peter.
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Jini Surrogate
Posted by Jeff Ramsdale <je...@gmail.com>.
I'd love to see it salvaged. Was it covered in the original contribution?
-jeff
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au> wrote:
> Any objections to integrating net.jini.surrogate and it's subproject
> ipinterconnect to Apache River?
>
> This allows non Java programs, devices etc to participate and it's easier
> for me to make some updates.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Peter.
>