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[VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
Ok, i fixed the problems that Will found an uploaded a new test build.
The test build for this release is available at:
http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/1.4/
Please vote regarding your support for releasing this test build as
VelocityTools 1.4:
[ ] +1 Let's do it
[ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
[ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
[ ] -1 No, because __________________
The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
roughly 5pm PST on Sunday, Nov 17th. Since i don't feel like
releasing it that day, i will do so first thing Monday morning
(assuming the vote passes), with the hope
that we can announce the release Tuesday morning.
My vote is +1
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
Posted by "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>.
"Antonio Petrelli" <an...@gmail.com> writes:
Yes, you are right. That is exactly what I meant.
Best regards
Henning
>2007/11/16, Henning P. Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de>:
>> "Nathan Bubna" <nb...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> Nothing should *ever* provide the servlet API or jar. Some releases of
>> tomcat explicitly stopped deploying the jar in versions. It is a
>> compile dependency. That is all. The runtime (servlet container)
>> should provide the API.
>This is exactly what the <scope>provided</scope> means: it is a
>compile dependency, but it is already provided by a container. See:
>http://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-dependency-mechanism.html
>With this scope, the dependency is not transitive.
>In Struts 2 we use servlet-api 2.4, while in velocity-tools it is use 2.3.
>With the "compile" scope, the dependency is transitive, and to use the
>2.4 we need to exclude explicitly the 2.3 version, inherited by
>velocity-tools.
>Antonio
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
Posted by Antonio Petrelli <an...@gmail.com>.
2007/11/16, Henning P. Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de>:
> "Nathan Bubna" <nb...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Nothing should *ever* provide the servlet API or jar. Some releases of
> tomcat explicitly stopped deploying the jar in versions. It is a
> compile dependency. That is all. The runtime (servlet container)
> should provide the API.
This is exactly what the <scope>provided</scope> means: it is a
compile dependency, but it is already provided by a container. See:
http://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-dependency-mechanism.html
With this scope, the dependency is not transitive.
In Struts 2 we use servlet-api 2.4, while in velocity-tools it is use 2.3.
With the "compile" scope, the dependency is transitive, and to use the
2.4 we need to exclude explicitly the 2.3 version, inherited by
velocity-tools.
Antonio
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
Posted by "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>.
"Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de> writes:
I actually got the scopes for "compile" and "provided" the wrong way
around. Please exchange the two words in my post. I agree with
Antonio.
Best regards
Henning
>"Nathan Bubna" <nb...@gmail.com> writes:
>Nothing should *ever* provide the servlet API or jar. Some releases of
>tomcat explicitly stopped deploying the jar in versions. It is a
>compile dependency. That is all. The runtime (servlet container)
>should provide the API.
>What problems did you have exactly?
> Best regards
> Henning
>>hmm. do you think this is something worth re-rolling the release?
>>On Nov 16, 2007 12:03 AM, Antonio Petrelli <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I noticed that in the pom of velocity-tools, there is a "compile" dependency
>>> to the servlet-api 2.3.
>>> It should be a provided dependency.
>>> We had some problems at Struts 2 for this reason.
>>>
>>> Ciao
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>> 2007/11/16, Will Glass-Husain <wg...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > No problem revoting-- not a big deal.
>>> >
>>> > Tested again under jdk 1.5 and 1.6.
>>> >
>>> > +1
>>> >
>>> > On Nov 15, 2007 5:49 PM, Marin� A. J�nsson <ma...@centrum.is> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > +1
>>> > >
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > From: dev-return-18967-marinoj=centrum.is@velocity.apache.org
>>> > > [mailto:dev-return-18967-marinoj=centrum.is@velocity.apache.org] On
>>> > Behalf
>>> > > Of Nathan Bubna
>>> > > Sent: 16. n�vember 2007 00:44
>>> > > To: Velocity Developers List; private@velocity.apache.org
>>> > > Subject: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
>>> > >
>>> > > Ok, i fixed the problems that Will found an uploaded a new test build.
>>> > >
>>> > > The test build for this release is available at:
>>> > > http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/1.4/<
>>> > http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/1.4/>
>>> > >
>>> > > Please vote regarding your support for releasing this test build as
>>> > > VelocityTools 1.4:
>>> > >
>>> > > [ ] +1 Let's do it
>>> > > [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
>>> > > [ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
>>> > > [ ] -1 No, because __________________
>>> > >
>>> > > The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
>>> > roughly
>>> > > 5pm PST on Sunday, Nov 17th. Since i don't feel like releasing it that
>>> > > day,
>>> > > i will do so first thing Monday morning (assuming the vote passes), with
>>> > > the
>>> > > hope that we can announce the release Tuesday morning.
>>> > >
>>> > > My vote is +1
>>> > >
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>>> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@velocity.apache.org
>>> > >
>>> > >
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>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
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>>> >
>>> > Will Glass-Husain
>>> > wglass@forio.com
>>> > www.forio.com
>>> >
>>>
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
Posted by "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>.
"Nathan Bubna" <nb...@gmail.com> writes:
Nothing should *ever* provide the servlet API or jar. Some releases of
tomcat explicitly stopped deploying the jar in versions. It is a
compile dependency. That is all. The runtime (servlet container)
should provide the API.
What problems did you have exactly?
Best regards
Henning
>hmm. do you think this is something worth re-rolling the release?
>On Nov 16, 2007 12:03 AM, Antonio Petrelli <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I noticed that in the pom of velocity-tools, there is a "compile" dependency
>> to the servlet-api 2.3.
>> It should be a provided dependency.
>> We had some problems at Struts 2 for this reason.
>>
>> Ciao
>> Antonio
>>
>> 2007/11/16, Will Glass-Husain <wg...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> >
>> > No problem revoting-- not a big deal.
>> >
>> > Tested again under jdk 1.5 and 1.6.
>> >
>> > +1
>> >
>> > On Nov 15, 2007 5:49 PM, Marin� A. J�nsson <ma...@centrum.is> wrote:
>> >
>> > > +1
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: dev-return-18967-marinoj=centrum.is@velocity.apache.org
>> > > [mailto:dev-return-18967-marinoj=centrum.is@velocity.apache.org] On
>> > Behalf
>> > > Of Nathan Bubna
>> > > Sent: 16. n�vember 2007 00:44
>> > > To: Velocity Developers List; private@velocity.apache.org
>> > > Subject: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
>> > >
>> > > Ok, i fixed the problems that Will found an uploaded a new test build.
>> > >
>> > > The test build for this release is available at:
>> > > http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/1.4/<
>> > http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/1.4/>
>> > >
>> > > Please vote regarding your support for releasing this test build as
>> > > VelocityTools 1.4:
>> > >
>> > > [ ] +1 Let's do it
>> > > [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
>> > > [ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
>> > > [ ] -1 No, because __________________
>> > >
>> > > The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
>> > roughly
>> > > 5pm PST on Sunday, Nov 17th. Since i don't feel like releasing it that
>> > > day,
>> > > i will do so first thing Monday morning (assuming the vote passes), with
>> > > the
>> > > hope that we can announce the release Tuesday morning.
>> > >
>> > > My vote is +1
>> > >
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>> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@velocity.apache.org
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Forio Business Simulations
>> >
>> > Will Glass-Husain
>> > wglass@forio.com
>> > www.forio.com
>> >
>>
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
Posted by Claude Brisson <cl...@renegat.net>.
> Remember http://velocity.markmail.org/message/uxk5qzd4nlhls7jt?q=groupid
> +from:%22Claude+Brisson%22 ? My fault, I should definitely have opened a
> JIRA entry.
oops...
http://tinyurl.com/3asmmg
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
Posted by Claude Brisson <cl...@renegat.net>.
Le vendredi 16 novembre 2007 à 15:30 -0800, Will Glass-Husain a écrit :
> I really don't mind voting multiple times if it keeps the quality up.
Yes, but I'm not totally sure a change in a readme is always worth a new
vote.
> As long as that's true for at least 3 PMC member's we are ok :-)
>
> One lesson is that we should all really check stuff, not just vote +1. (The
> more eyes the better). You can always vote +0 if you don't have time to
> fully check. (I think I said explicitly don't vote +1 unless you check the
> build last time I I called for a vote).
I agree - and this time I thought of something I didn't check last time:
the groupId must be set to velocity in the pom.xml.
Remember http://velocity.markmail.org/message/uxk5qzd4nlhls7jt?q=groupid
+from:%22Claude+Brisson%22 ? My fault, I should definitely have opened a
JIRA entry.
I think the correct groupId for all velocity subprojects is
org.apache.velocity
So, hum, -1 for this one, and +1 for the next one :-)
Claude
> Since Nathan's doing the bulk of the work on getting this out, the rest of
> the PMC (and community at large) acting as QA is the least we can do.
>
> Best, WILL
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2007 1:09 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de> wrote:
>
> > Just give us a few hours/days to try it out before CfV. This avoids
> > having to stop CfVs. :-)
> >
> > Best regards
> > Henning
> >
> > Nathan Bubna schrieb:
> > > On Nov 16, 2007 1:00 PM, Henning P. Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de>
> > wrote:
> > >> "Antonio Petrelli" <an...@gmail.com> writes:
> > >>
> > >>> 2007/11/16, Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com>:
> > >>>> hmm. do you think this is something worth re-rolling the release?
> > >>> It's really annoying for maven-based software (like Struts 2) that use
> > >>> Velocity Tools.
> > >>> In Struts 2 it was necessary to exclude the servlet-api 2.3 to make it
> > work.
> > >>> And it is wrong: it has to be "provided" since it is usually provided
> > >>> by containers.
> > >> ^it has to be^it should be
> > >>
> > >> apart from that, I fully agree. The dependency should be 'provided'.
> > >>
> > >> Nathan: I am actually -1 to releasing with "compile" dependency for
> > >> the servlet api. Antonio is right here.
> > >
> > > ok, here we go again...
> > >
> > >> BTW: You can put out the RCs for consideration in your home directory
> > >> without formal CfV. We only need a CfV if that stuff goes into an
> > >> "official" repository or location.
> > >
> > > i know; that's been the hope with each CfV.
> > >
> > >> Best regards
> > >> Henning
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Henning P. Schmiedehausen -- hps@intermeta.de | J2EE, Linux,
> > >> 91054 Buckenhof, Germany -- +49 9131 506540 | Apache person
> > >> Open Source Consulting, Development, Design | Velocity - Turbine guy
> > >>
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> > Schmiedehausen
> > >>
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> > >>
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
Posted by Will Glass-Husain <wg...@gmail.com>.
I really don't mind voting multiple times if it keeps the quality up.
As long as that's true for at least 3 PMC member's we are ok :-)
One lesson is that we should all really check stuff, not just vote +1. (The
more eyes the better). You can always vote +0 if you don't have time to
fully check. (I think I said explicitly don't vote +1 unless you check the
build last time I I called for a vote).
Since Nathan's doing the bulk of the work on getting this out, the rest of
the PMC (and community at large) acting as QA is the least we can do.
Best, WILL
On Nov 16, 2007 1:09 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de> wrote:
> Just give us a few hours/days to try it out before CfV. This avoids
> having to stop CfVs. :-)
>
> Best regards
> Henning
>
> Nathan Bubna schrieb:
> > On Nov 16, 2007 1:00 PM, Henning P. Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de>
> wrote:
> >> "Antonio Petrelli" <an...@gmail.com> writes:
> >>
> >>> 2007/11/16, Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com>:
> >>>> hmm. do you think this is something worth re-rolling the release?
> >>> It's really annoying for maven-based software (like Struts 2) that use
> >>> Velocity Tools.
> >>> In Struts 2 it was necessary to exclude the servlet-api 2.3 to make it
> work.
> >>> And it is wrong: it has to be "provided" since it is usually provided
> >>> by containers.
> >> ^it has to be^it should be
> >>
> >> apart from that, I fully agree. The dependency should be 'provided'.
> >>
> >> Nathan: I am actually -1 to releasing with "compile" dependency for
> >> the servlet api. Antonio is right here.
> >
> > ok, here we go again...
> >
> >> BTW: You can put out the RCs for consideration in your home directory
> >> without formal CfV. We only need a CfV if that stuff goes into an
> >> "official" repository or location.
> >
> > i know; that's been the hope with each CfV.
> >
> >> Best regards
> >> Henning
> >>
> >> --
> >> Henning P. Schmiedehausen -- hps@intermeta.de | J2EE, Linux,
> >> 91054 Buckenhof, Germany -- +49 9131 506540 | Apache person
> >> Open Source Consulting, Development, Design | Velocity - Turbine guy
> >>
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> Schmiedehausen
> >>
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> >>
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
Posted by Henning Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de>.
Just give us a few hours/days to try it out before CfV. This avoids
having to stop CfVs. :-)
Best regards
Henning
Nathan Bubna schrieb:
> On Nov 16, 2007 1:00 PM, Henning P. Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de> wrote:
>> "Antonio Petrelli" <an...@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> 2007/11/16, Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com>:
>>>> hmm. do you think this is something worth re-rolling the release?
>>> It's really annoying for maven-based software (like Struts 2) that use
>>> Velocity Tools.
>>> In Struts 2 it was necessary to exclude the servlet-api 2.3 to make it work.
>>> And it is wrong: it has to be "provided" since it is usually provided
>>> by containers.
>> ^it has to be^it should be
>>
>> apart from that, I fully agree. The dependency should be 'provided'.
>>
>> Nathan: I am actually -1 to releasing with "compile" dependency for
>> the servlet api. Antonio is right here.
>
> ok, here we go again...
>
>> BTW: You can put out the RCs for consideration in your home directory
>> without formal CfV. We only need a CfV if that stuff goes into an
>> "official" repository or location.
>
> i know; that's been the hope with each CfV.
>
>> Best regards
>> Henning
>>
>> --
>> Henning P. Schmiedehausen -- hps@intermeta.de | J2EE, Linux,
>> 91054 Buckenhof, Germany -- +49 9131 506540 | Apache person
>> Open Source Consulting, Development, Design | Velocity - Turbine guy
>>
>> INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fuer Mehrwertdienste mbH - RG Fuerth, HRB 7350
>> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Buckenhof. Geschaeftsfuehrer: Henning Schmiedehausen
>>
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>>
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
Posted by Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com>.
On Nov 16, 2007 1:00 PM, Henning P. Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de> wrote:
> "Antonio Petrelli" <an...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> >2007/11/16, Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com>:
> >> hmm. do you think this is something worth re-rolling the release?
>
> >It's really annoying for maven-based software (like Struts 2) that use
> >Velocity Tools.
> >In Struts 2 it was necessary to exclude the servlet-api 2.3 to make it work.
> >And it is wrong: it has to be "provided" since it is usually provided
> >by containers.
>
> ^it has to be^it should be
>
> apart from that, I fully agree. The dependency should be 'provided'.
>
> Nathan: I am actually -1 to releasing with "compile" dependency for
> the servlet api. Antonio is right here.
ok, here we go again...
> BTW: You can put out the RCs for consideration in your home directory
> without formal CfV. We only need a CfV if that stuff goes into an
> "official" repository or location.
i know; that's been the hope with each CfV.
> Best regards
> Henning
>
> --
> Henning P. Schmiedehausen -- hps@intermeta.de | J2EE, Linux,
> 91054 Buckenhof, Germany -- +49 9131 506540 | Apache person
> Open Source Consulting, Development, Design | Velocity - Turbine guy
>
> INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fuer Mehrwertdienste mbH - RG Fuerth, HRB 7350
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
Posted by "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>.
"Antonio Petrelli" <an...@gmail.com> writes:
>2007/11/16, Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com>:
>> hmm. do you think this is something worth re-rolling the release?
>It's really annoying for maven-based software (like Struts 2) that use
>Velocity Tools.
>In Struts 2 it was necessary to exclude the servlet-api 2.3 to make it work.
>And it is wrong: it has to be "provided" since it is usually provided
>by containers.
^it has to be^it should be
apart from that, I fully agree. The dependency should be 'provided'.
Nathan: I am actually -1 to releasing with "compile" dependency for
the servlet api. Antonio is right here.
BTW: You can put out the RCs for consideration in your home directory
without formal CfV. We only need a CfV if that stuff goes into an
"official" repository or location.
Best regards
Henning
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
Posted by Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com>.
On Nov 16, 2007 11:06 AM, Antonio Petrelli <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2007/11/16, Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com>:
> > hmm. do you think this is something worth re-rolling the release?
>
> It's really annoying for maven-based software (like Struts 2) that use
> Velocity Tools.
> In Struts 2 it was necessary to exclude the servlet-api 2.3 to make it work.
> And it is wrong: it has to be "provided" since it is usually provided
> by containers.
> I know that my vote is absolutely not-binding, but it is very
> annoying: a commit for you means less configuration for the rest.
yes, maven is very annoying. :) and that's a commit, then
build/sign/upload release, then call for third vote in three days on
the same release for a another wee little maven issue which, in this
case, has been there all along. sigh. i'll think about it...
> Antonio
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
Posted by Antonio Petrelli <an...@gmail.com>.
2007/11/16, Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com>:
> hmm. do you think this is something worth re-rolling the release?
It's really annoying for maven-based software (like Struts 2) that use
Velocity Tools.
In Struts 2 it was necessary to exclude the servlet-api 2.3 to make it work.
And it is wrong: it has to be "provided" since it is usually provided
by containers.
I know that my vote is absolutely not-binding, but it is very
annoying: a commit for you means less configuration for the rest.
Antonio
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
Posted by Nathan Bubna <nb...@gmail.com>.
hmm. do you think this is something worth re-rolling the release?
On Nov 16, 2007 12:03 AM, Antonio Petrelli <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I noticed that in the pom of velocity-tools, there is a "compile" dependency
> to the servlet-api 2.3.
> It should be a provided dependency.
> We had some problems at Struts 2 for this reason.
>
> Ciao
> Antonio
>
> 2007/11/16, Will Glass-Husain <wg...@gmail.com>:
>
> >
> > No problem revoting-- not a big deal.
> >
> > Tested again under jdk 1.5 and 1.6.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > On Nov 15, 2007 5:49 PM, Marinó A. Jónsson <ma...@centrum.is> wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dev-return-18967-marinoj=centrum.is@velocity.apache.org
> > > [mailto:dev-return-18967-marinoj=centrum.is@velocity.apache.org] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Nathan Bubna
> > > Sent: 16. nóvember 2007 00:44
> > > To: Velocity Developers List; private@velocity.apache.org
> > > Subject: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
> > >
> > > Ok, i fixed the problems that Will found an uploaded a new test build.
> > >
> > > The test build for this release is available at:
> > > http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/1.4/<
> > http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/1.4/>
> > >
> > > Please vote regarding your support for releasing this test build as
> > > VelocityTools 1.4:
> > >
> > > [ ] +1 Let's do it
> > > [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
> > > [ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
> > > [ ] -1 No, because __________________
> > >
> > > The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
> > roughly
> > > 5pm PST on Sunday, Nov 17th. Since i don't feel like releasing it that
> > > day,
> > > i will do so first thing Monday morning (assuming the vote passes), with
> > > the
> > > hope that we can announce the release Tuesday morning.
> > >
> > > My vote is +1
> > >
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
Posted by Antonio Petrelli <an...@gmail.com>.
I noticed that in the pom of velocity-tools, there is a "compile" dependency
to the servlet-api 2.3.
It should be a provided dependency.
We had some problems at Struts 2 for this reason.
Ciao
Antonio
2007/11/16, Will Glass-Husain <wg...@gmail.com>:
>
> No problem revoting-- not a big deal.
>
> Tested again under jdk 1.5 and 1.6.
>
> +1
>
> On Nov 15, 2007 5:49 PM, Marinó A. Jónsson <ma...@centrum.is> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dev-return-18967-marinoj=centrum.is@velocity.apache.org
> > [mailto:dev-return-18967-marinoj=centrum.is@velocity.apache.org] On
> Behalf
> > Of Nathan Bubna
> > Sent: 16. nóvember 2007 00:44
> > To: Velocity Developers List; private@velocity.apache.org
> > Subject: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
> >
> > Ok, i fixed the problems that Will found an uploaded a new test build.
> >
> > The test build for this release is available at:
> > http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/1.4/<
> http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/1.4/>
> >
> > Please vote regarding your support for releasing this test build as
> > VelocityTools 1.4:
> >
> > [ ] +1 Let's do it
> > [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
> > [ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
> > [ ] -1 No, because __________________
> >
> > The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as
> roughly
> > 5pm PST on Sunday, Nov 17th. Since i don't feel like releasing it that
> > day,
> > i will do so first thing Monday morning (assuming the vote passes), with
> > the
> > hope that we can announce the release Tuesday morning.
> >
> > My vote is +1
> >
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Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
Posted by Will Glass-Husain <wg...@gmail.com>.
No problem revoting-- not a big deal.
Tested again under jdk 1.5 and 1.6.
+1
On Nov 15, 2007 5:49 PM, Marinó A. Jónsson <ma...@centrum.is> wrote:
> +1
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dev-return-18967-marinoj=centrum.is@velocity.apache.org
> [mailto:dev-return-18967-marinoj=centrum.is@velocity.apache.org] On Behalf
> Of Nathan Bubna
> Sent: 16. nóvember 2007 00:44
> To: Velocity Developers List; private@velocity.apache.org
> Subject: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
>
> Ok, i fixed the problems that Will found an uploaded a new test build.
>
> The test build for this release is available at:
> http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/1.4/<http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/1.4/>
>
> Please vote regarding your support for releasing this test build as
> VelocityTools 1.4:
>
> [ ] +1 Let's do it
> [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
> [ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
> [ ] -1 No, because __________________
>
> The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as roughly
> 5pm PST on Sunday, Nov 17th. Since i don't feel like releasing it that
> day,
> i will do so first thing Monday morning (assuming the vote passes), with
> the
> hope that we can announce the release Tuesday morning.
>
> My vote is +1
>
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RE: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
Posted by "Marinó A. Jónsson" <ma...@CENTRUM.IS>.
+1
-----Original Message-----
From: dev-return-18967-marinoj=centrum.is@velocity.apache.org
[mailto:dev-return-18967-marinoj=centrum.is@velocity.apache.org] On Behalf
Of Nathan Bubna
Sent: 16. nóvember 2007 00:44
To: Velocity Developers List; private@velocity.apache.org
Subject: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 1.4 (take two)
Ok, i fixed the problems that Will found an uploaded a new test build.
The test build for this release is available at:
http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/1.4/
Please vote regarding your support for releasing this test build as
VelocityTools 1.4:
[ ] +1 Let's do it
[ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care.
[ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you.
[ ] -1 No, because __________________
The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as roughly
5pm PST on Sunday, Nov 17th. Since i don't feel like releasing it that day,
i will do so first thing Monday morning (assuming the vote passes), with the
hope that we can announce the release Tuesday morning.
My vote is +1
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