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Posted to dev@harmony.apache.org by Nathan Beyer <nb...@gmail.com> on 2008/03/01 04:02:26 UTC
Re: [general][website] be careful updating Russian pages
This happened to me. I don't know Russian, but when I updated the site
for the changes to the ant targets, I figured it was fine to change
the bit that said "ant XXXX".
-Nathan
On 29 Feb 2008 23:09:31 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On the 0x3F7 day of Apache Harmony Tim Ellison wrote:
> > Gregory Shimansky wrote:
> > > Alexei Zakharov said the following on 22.02.2008 13:48:
> > >> Hm, I can build Russian pages without any corrupted symbols in it
> > >> using RI on Win32. What this bug is about?
> > > This is a strange bug and it manifests differently on different
> > > windows installations. I think it also depends on your system
> > > language settings on windows. The bug is in wrong generation of
> > > UTF-8 characters for some of Cyrillic letters. See [1] and
> > > predecessors for more details.
> > > [1] http://harmony.markmail.org/message/lcjnldxiisawfzxq
> >
> > Is there any way we can put a check in the build script to ensure the
> > Russian text has not been broken? Even if it is just checking that
> > you are running on a Harmony JRE.
> >
> > It sounds too easy for people to innocently do the wrong thing here.
>
> why?
>
> if you do not know Russian, you probably would not edit it. So, "svn
> diff" would tell you if characters in Russian text changed. And if
> they did, hey, the wrong thing was about to get in :)
>
> --
> Egor Pasko
>
>
Re: [general][website] be careful updating Russian pages
Posted by Nadya Morozova <na...@googlemail.com>.
ok, let's test this. i think i made a huge commit of DRLVM Doxygen API
reference, so your update will take some time.
i uploaded the reference directly to docs/ so that we don't have an extra
copy in xdocs/. hope this solution is ok with you .
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Tim Ellison <t....@gmail.com> wrote:
> I hear no objections, so I'm going to commit the check.
> It requires that you regenerate the website using Harmony so the RU
> pages are not corrupted by the RI.
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
>
> Tim Ellison wrote:
> > Nathan Beyer wrote:
> >> Sounds good to me.
> >>
> >> On 03 Mar 2008 02:25:49 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Nathan Beyer wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> It's still too easy to make a mistake. The best bet is get the RI's
> >>> > fixed and get the build to force the correct thing.
> >>> >
> >>> > Yes, I do use svn diff, but not on generated code, which is what
> the
> >>> > HTML files are. In the future, all I'll do is just NOT change these
> >>> > pages.
> >>>
> >>> As a probably convenient alternative, we might require the doc build
> >>> to run under Harmony, so that it breaks otherwise. That way it is not
> >>> too easy to break anything. The error message could say something
> like:
> >>>
> >>> "Building website is not supported on runtimes other than
> >>> Harmony. Please, set your JAVA_HOME accordingly. You can download the
> >>> latest Harmony release here: <...>"
> >>>
> >>> How does it sound?
> >
> > How about this simple check:
> >
> > Index: build.xml
> > ===================================================================
> > --- build.xml (revision 632289)
> > +++ build.xml (working copy)
> > @@ -55,7 +55,7 @@
> >
> > <target name="site"
> > description="generates the HTML documentation"
> > - >
> > + depends="check-jre">
> > <taskdef name="anakia"
> > classname="org.apache.velocity.anakia.AnakiaTask">
> >
> > @@ -139,6 +139,17 @@
> >
> > </target>
> >
> > +
> > + <target name="check-jre">
> > + <fail message="You need to generate the site using Harmony">
> > + <condition>
> > + <not>
> > + <equals arg1="Apache Harmony"
> > arg2="${java.runtime.name}"/>
> > + </not>
> > + </condition>
> > + </fail>
> > + </target>
> > +
> > </project>
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tim
> >
>
--
Cheers,
Nadya
Re: [general][website] be careful updating Russian pages
Posted by Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com>.
On the 0x406 day of Apache Harmony Tim Ellison wrote:
> I hear no objections, so I'm going to commit the check.
> It requires that you regenerate the website using Harmony so the RU
> pages are not corrupted by the RI.
thank you for doing this
> Regards,
> Tim
>
>
> Tim Ellison wrote:
> > Nathan Beyer wrote:
> >> Sounds good to me.
> >>
> >> On 03 Mar 2008 02:25:49 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Nathan Beyer wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> It's still too easy to make a mistake. The best bet is get the RI's
> >>> > fixed and get the build to force the correct thing.
> >>> >
> >>> > Yes, I do use svn diff, but not on generated code, which is what the
> >>> > HTML files are. In the future, all I'll do is just NOT change these
> >>> > pages.
> >>>
> >>> As a probably convenient alternative, we might require the doc build
> >>> to run under Harmony, so that it breaks otherwise. That way it is not
> >>> too easy to break anything. The error message could say something like:
> >>>
> >>> "Building website is not supported on runtimes other than
> >>> Harmony. Please, set your JAVA_HOME accordingly. You can download the
> >>> latest Harmony release here: <...>"
> >>>
> >>> How does it sound?
> > How about this simple check:
> > Index: build.xml
> > ===================================================================
> > --- build.xml (revision 632289)
> > +++ build.xml (working copy)
> > @@ -55,7 +55,7 @@
> > <target name="site"
> > description="generates the HTML documentation"
> > - >
> > + depends="check-jre">
> > <taskdef name="anakia"
> > classname="org.apache.velocity.anakia.AnakiaTask">
> > @@ -139,6 +139,17 @@
> > </target>
> > +
> > + <target name="check-jre">
> > + <fail message="You need to generate the site using Harmony">
> > + <condition>
> > + <not>
> > + <equals arg1="Apache Harmony"
> > arg2="${java.runtime.name}"/>
> > + </not>
> > + </condition>
> > + </fail>
> > + </target>
> > +
> > </project>
> > Regards,
> > Tim
> >
>
--
Egor Pasko
Re: [general][website] be careful updating Russian pages
Posted by Tim Ellison <t....@gmail.com>.
I hear no objections, so I'm going to commit the check.
It requires that you regenerate the website using Harmony so the RU
pages are not corrupted by the RI.
Regards,
Tim
Tim Ellison wrote:
> Nathan Beyer wrote:
>> Sounds good to me.
>>
>> On 03 Mar 2008 02:25:49 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Nathan Beyer wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's still too easy to make a mistake. The best bet is get the RI's
>>> > fixed and get the build to force the correct thing.
>>> >
>>> > Yes, I do use svn diff, but not on generated code, which is what the
>>> > HTML files are. In the future, all I'll do is just NOT change these
>>> > pages.
>>>
>>> As a probably convenient alternative, we might require the doc build
>>> to run under Harmony, so that it breaks otherwise. That way it is not
>>> too easy to break anything. The error message could say something like:
>>>
>>> "Building website is not supported on runtimes other than
>>> Harmony. Please, set your JAVA_HOME accordingly. You can download the
>>> latest Harmony release here: <...>"
>>>
>>> How does it sound?
>
> How about this simple check:
>
> Index: build.xml
> ===================================================================
> --- build.xml (revision 632289)
> +++ build.xml (working copy)
> @@ -55,7 +55,7 @@
>
> <target name="site"
> description="generates the HTML documentation"
> - >
> + depends="check-jre">
> <taskdef name="anakia"
> classname="org.apache.velocity.anakia.AnakiaTask">
>
> @@ -139,6 +139,17 @@
>
> </target>
>
> +
> + <target name="check-jre">
> + <fail message="You need to generate the site using Harmony">
> + <condition>
> + <not>
> + <equals arg1="Apache Harmony"
> arg2="${java.runtime.name}"/>
> + </not>
> + </condition>
> + </fail>
> + </target>
> +
> </project>
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Tim
>
Re: [general][website] be careful updating Russian pages
Posted by Tim Ellison <t....@gmail.com>.
Nathan Beyer wrote:
> Sounds good to me.
>
> On 03 Mar 2008 02:25:49 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Nathan Beyer wrote:
>>
>>> It's still too easy to make a mistake. The best bet is get the RI's
>> > fixed and get the build to force the correct thing.
>> >
>> > Yes, I do use svn diff, but not on generated code, which is what the
>> > HTML files are. In the future, all I'll do is just NOT change these
>> > pages.
>>
>> As a probably convenient alternative, we might require the doc build
>> to run under Harmony, so that it breaks otherwise. That way it is not
>> too easy to break anything. The error message could say something like:
>>
>> "Building website is not supported on runtimes other than
>> Harmony. Please, set your JAVA_HOME accordingly. You can download the
>> latest Harmony release here: <...>"
>>
>> How does it sound?
How about this simple check:
Index: build.xml
===================================================================
--- build.xml (revision 632289)
+++ build.xml (working copy)
@@ -55,7 +55,7 @@
<target name="site"
description="generates the HTML documentation"
- >
+ depends="check-jre">
<taskdef name="anakia"
classname="org.apache.velocity.anakia.AnakiaTask">
@@ -139,6 +139,17 @@
</target>
+
+ <target name="check-jre">
+ <fail message="You need to generate the site using Harmony">
+ <condition>
+ <not>
+ <equals arg1="Apache Harmony"
arg2="${java.runtime.name}"/>
+ </not>
+ </condition>
+ </fail>
+ </target>
+
</project>
Regards,
Tim
Re: [general][website] be careful updating Russian pages
Posted by Nathan Beyer <nb...@gmail.com>.
Sounds good to me.
On 03 Mar 2008 02:25:49 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Nathan Beyer wrote:
>
> > It's still too easy to make a mistake. The best bet is get the RI's
> > fixed and get the build to force the correct thing.
> >
> > Yes, I do use svn diff, but not on generated code, which is what the
> > HTML files are. In the future, all I'll do is just NOT change these
> > pages.
>
> As a probably convenient alternative, we might require the doc build
> to run under Harmony, so that it breaks otherwise. That way it is not
> too easy to break anything. The error message could say something like:
>
> "Building website is not supported on runtimes other than
> Harmony. Please, set your JAVA_HOME accordingly. You can download the
> latest Harmony release here: <...>"
>
> How does it sound?
>
>
>
> > -Nathan
> >
> > On 01 Mar 2008 23:04:21 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Nathan Beyer wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here's the change I made -
> > > > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&revision=628236.
> > >
> > > yes, you can see from the patch that Russian text has changed in many
> > > places where was not intended to. So, "svn diff" helped to see
> > > that. This way I kind of proposed the way how one can make sure if
> > > their changes is OK for Russian. Using this technique it is not "too
> > >
> > > easy for people to innocently do the wrong thing here".
> > >
> > > So I do not see the reason of making it completely automatic (since
> > > looking at svn diff is generally a good practice). Automation would be
> > > like put a non-visible test string to the header of each Russian page
> > > and verify that the diff does not contain it. Is it easy?
> > >
> > > But the situation is awkward, I agree.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 01 Mar 2008 12:14:11 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Nathan Beyer wrote:
> > > > > > This happened to me. I don't know Russian, but when I updated the site
> > > > > > for the changes to the ant targets, I figured it was fine to change
> > > > > > the bit that said "ant XXXX".
> > > > >
> > > > > Natan, I did not understand this phrase quite well. Would you, plz,
> > > > > put it in other words so I could understand what happened? I am so
> > > > > sorry :)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -Nathan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 29 Feb 2008 23:09:31 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On the 0x3F7 day of Apache Harmony Tim Ellison wrote:
> > > > > > > > Gregory Shimansky wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Alexei Zakharov said the following on 22.02.2008 13:48:
> > > > > > > > >> Hm, I can build Russian pages without any corrupted symbols in it
> > > > > > > > >> using RI on Win32. What this bug is about?
> > > > > > > > > This is a strange bug and it manifests differently on different
> > > > > > > > > windows installations. I think it also depends on your system
> > > > > > > > > language settings on windows. The bug is in wrong generation of
> > > > > > > > > UTF-8 characters for some of Cyrillic letters. See [1] and
> > > > > > > > > predecessors for more details.
> > > > > > > > > [1] http://harmony.markmail.org/message/lcjnldxiisawfzxq
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is there any way we can put a check in the build script to ensure the
> > > > > > > > Russian text has not been broken? Even if it is just checking that
> > > > > > > > you are running on a Harmony JRE.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It sounds too easy for people to innocently do the wrong thing here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > why?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > if you do not know Russian, you probably would not edit it. So, "svn
> > > > > > > diff" would tell you if characters in Russian text changed. And if
> > > > > > > they did, hey, the wrong thing was about to get in :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Egor Pasko
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Egor Pasko
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Egor Pasko
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> --
> Egor Pasko
>
>
Re: [general][website] be careful updating Russian pages
Posted by Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com>.
On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Nathan Beyer wrote:
> It's still too easy to make a mistake. The best bet is get the RI's
> fixed and get the build to force the correct thing.
>
> Yes, I do use svn diff, but not on generated code, which is what the
> HTML files are. In the future, all I'll do is just NOT change these
> pages.
As a probably convenient alternative, we might require the doc build
to run under Harmony, so that it breaks otherwise. That way it is not
too easy to break anything. The error message could say something like:
"Building website is not supported on runtimes other than
Harmony. Please, set your JAVA_HOME accordingly. You can download the
latest Harmony release here: <...>"
How does it sound?
> -Nathan
>
> On 01 Mar 2008 23:04:21 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Nathan Beyer wrote:
> >
> > > Here's the change I made -
> > > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&revision=628236.
> >
> > yes, you can see from the patch that Russian text has changed in many
> > places where was not intended to. So, "svn diff" helped to see
> > that. This way I kind of proposed the way how one can make sure if
> > their changes is OK for Russian. Using this technique it is not "too
> >
> > easy for people to innocently do the wrong thing here".
> >
> > So I do not see the reason of making it completely automatic (since
> > looking at svn diff is generally a good practice). Automation would be
> > like put a non-visible test string to the header of each Russian page
> > and verify that the diff does not contain it. Is it easy?
> >
> > But the situation is awkward, I agree.
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 01 Mar 2008 12:14:11 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Nathan Beyer wrote:
> > > > > This happened to me. I don't know Russian, but when I updated the site
> > > > > for the changes to the ant targets, I figured it was fine to change
> > > > > the bit that said "ant XXXX".
> > > >
> > > > Natan, I did not understand this phrase quite well. Would you, plz,
> > > > put it in other words so I could understand what happened? I am so
> > > > sorry :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -Nathan
> > > > >
> > > > > On 29 Feb 2008 23:09:31 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the 0x3F7 day of Apache Harmony Tim Ellison wrote:
> > > > > > > Gregory Shimansky wrote:
> > > > > > > > Alexei Zakharov said the following on 22.02.2008 13:48:
> > > > > > > >> Hm, I can build Russian pages without any corrupted symbols in it
> > > > > > > >> using RI on Win32. What this bug is about?
> > > > > > > > This is a strange bug and it manifests differently on different
> > > > > > > > windows installations. I think it also depends on your system
> > > > > > > > language settings on windows. The bug is in wrong generation of
> > > > > > > > UTF-8 characters for some of Cyrillic letters. See [1] and
> > > > > > > > predecessors for more details.
> > > > > > > > [1] http://harmony.markmail.org/message/lcjnldxiisawfzxq
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is there any way we can put a check in the build script to ensure the
> > > > > > > Russian text has not been broken? Even if it is just checking that
> > > > > > > you are running on a Harmony JRE.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It sounds too easy for people to innocently do the wrong thing here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > why?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > if you do not know Russian, you probably would not edit it. So, "svn
> > > > > > diff" would tell you if characters in Russian text changed. And if
> > > > > > they did, hey, the wrong thing was about to get in :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Egor Pasko
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Egor Pasko
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Egor Pasko
> >
> >
>
--
Egor Pasko
Re: [general][website] be careful updating Russian pages
Posted by Nathan Beyer <nb...@gmail.com>.
It's still too easy to make a mistake. The best bet is get the RI's
fixed and get the build to force the correct thing.
Yes, I do use svn diff, but not on generated code, which is what the
HTML files are. In the future, all I'll do is just NOT change these
pages.
-Nathan
On 01 Mar 2008 23:04:21 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Nathan Beyer wrote:
>
> > Here's the change I made -
> > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&revision=628236.
>
> yes, you can see from the patch that Russian text has changed in many
> places where was not intended to. So, "svn diff" helped to see
> that. This way I kind of proposed the way how one can make sure if
> their changes is OK for Russian. Using this technique it is not "too
>
> easy for people to innocently do the wrong thing here".
>
> So I do not see the reason of making it completely automatic (since
> looking at svn diff is generally a good practice). Automation would be
> like put a non-visible test string to the header of each Russian page
> and verify that the diff does not contain it. Is it easy?
>
> But the situation is awkward, I agree.
>
>
>
> > On 01 Mar 2008 12:14:11 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Nathan Beyer wrote:
> > > > This happened to me. I don't know Russian, but when I updated the site
> > > > for the changes to the ant targets, I figured it was fine to change
> > > > the bit that said "ant XXXX".
> > >
> > > Natan, I did not understand this phrase quite well. Would you, plz,
> > > put it in other words so I could understand what happened? I am so
> > > sorry :)
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Nathan
> > > >
> > > > On 29 Feb 2008 23:09:31 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On the 0x3F7 day of Apache Harmony Tim Ellison wrote:
> > > > > > Gregory Shimansky wrote:
> > > > > > > Alexei Zakharov said the following on 22.02.2008 13:48:
> > > > > > >> Hm, I can build Russian pages without any corrupted symbols in it
> > > > > > >> using RI on Win32. What this bug is about?
> > > > > > > This is a strange bug and it manifests differently on different
> > > > > > > windows installations. I think it also depends on your system
> > > > > > > language settings on windows. The bug is in wrong generation of
> > > > > > > UTF-8 characters for some of Cyrillic letters. See [1] and
> > > > > > > predecessors for more details.
> > > > > > > [1] http://harmony.markmail.org/message/lcjnldxiisawfzxq
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there any way we can put a check in the build script to ensure the
> > > > > > Russian text has not been broken? Even if it is just checking that
> > > > > > you are running on a Harmony JRE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It sounds too easy for people to innocently do the wrong thing here.
> > > > >
> > > > > why?
> > > > >
> > > > > if you do not know Russian, you probably would not edit it. So, "svn
> > > > > diff" would tell you if characters in Russian text changed. And if
> > > > > they did, hey, the wrong thing was about to get in :)
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Egor Pasko
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Egor Pasko
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> --
> Egor Pasko
>
>
Re: [general][website] be careful updating Russian pages
Posted by Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com>.
On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Nathan Beyer wrote:
> Here's the change I made -
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&revision=628236.
yes, you can see from the patch that Russian text has changed in many
places where was not intended to. So, "svn diff" helped to see
that. This way I kind of proposed the way how one can make sure if
their changes is OK for Russian. Using this technique it is not "too
easy for people to innocently do the wrong thing here".
So I do not see the reason of making it completely automatic (since
looking at svn diff is generally a good practice). Automation would be
like put a non-visible test string to the header of each Russian page
and verify that the diff does not contain it. Is it easy?
But the situation is awkward, I agree.
> On 01 Mar 2008 12:14:11 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Nathan Beyer wrote:
> > > This happened to me. I don't know Russian, but when I updated the site
> > > for the changes to the ant targets, I figured it was fine to change
> > > the bit that said "ant XXXX".
> >
> > Natan, I did not understand this phrase quite well. Would you, plz,
> > put it in other words so I could understand what happened? I am so
> > sorry :)
> >
> >
> > > -Nathan
> > >
> > > On 29 Feb 2008 23:09:31 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On the 0x3F7 day of Apache Harmony Tim Ellison wrote:
> > > > > Gregory Shimansky wrote:
> > > > > > Alexei Zakharov said the following on 22.02.2008 13:48:
> > > > > >> Hm, I can build Russian pages without any corrupted symbols in it
> > > > > >> using RI on Win32. What this bug is about?
> > > > > > This is a strange bug and it manifests differently on different
> > > > > > windows installations. I think it also depends on your system
> > > > > > language settings on windows. The bug is in wrong generation of
> > > > > > UTF-8 characters for some of Cyrillic letters. See [1] and
> > > > > > predecessors for more details.
> > > > > > [1] http://harmony.markmail.org/message/lcjnldxiisawfzxq
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any way we can put a check in the build script to ensure the
> > > > > Russian text has not been broken? Even if it is just checking that
> > > > > you are running on a Harmony JRE.
> > > > >
> > > > > It sounds too easy for people to innocently do the wrong thing here.
> > > >
> > > > why?
> > > >
> > > > if you do not know Russian, you probably would not edit it. So, "svn
> > > > diff" would tell you if characters in Russian text changed. And if
> > > > they did, hey, the wrong thing was about to get in :)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Egor Pasko
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Egor Pasko
> >
> >
>
--
Egor Pasko
Re: [general][website] be careful updating Russian pages
Posted by Nathan Beyer <nb...@gmail.com>.
Here's the change I made -
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&revision=628236.
On 01 Mar 2008 12:14:11 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Nathan Beyer wrote:
> > This happened to me. I don't know Russian, but when I updated the site
> > for the changes to the ant targets, I figured it was fine to change
> > the bit that said "ant XXXX".
>
> Natan, I did not understand this phrase quite well. Would you, plz,
> put it in other words so I could understand what happened? I am so
> sorry :)
>
>
> > -Nathan
> >
> > On 29 Feb 2008 23:09:31 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On the 0x3F7 day of Apache Harmony Tim Ellison wrote:
> > > > Gregory Shimansky wrote:
> > > > > Alexei Zakharov said the following on 22.02.2008 13:48:
> > > > >> Hm, I can build Russian pages without any corrupted symbols in it
> > > > >> using RI on Win32. What this bug is about?
> > > > > This is a strange bug and it manifests differently on different
> > > > > windows installations. I think it also depends on your system
> > > > > language settings on windows. The bug is in wrong generation of
> > > > > UTF-8 characters for some of Cyrillic letters. See [1] and
> > > > > predecessors for more details.
> > > > > [1] http://harmony.markmail.org/message/lcjnldxiisawfzxq
> > > >
> > > > Is there any way we can put a check in the build script to ensure the
> > > > Russian text has not been broken? Even if it is just checking that
> > > > you are running on a Harmony JRE.
> > > >
> > > > It sounds too easy for people to innocently do the wrong thing here.
> > >
> > > why?
> > >
> > > if you do not know Russian, you probably would not edit it. So, "svn
> > > diff" would tell you if characters in Russian text changed. And if
> > > they did, hey, the wrong thing was about to get in :)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Egor Pasko
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> --
> Egor Pasko
>
>
Re: [general][website] be careful updating Russian pages
Posted by Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com>.
On the 0x3FA day of Apache Harmony Nathan Beyer wrote:
> This happened to me. I don't know Russian, but when I updated the site
> for the changes to the ant targets, I figured it was fine to change
> the bit that said "ant XXXX".
Natan, I did not understand this phrase quite well. Would you, plz,
put it in other words so I could understand what happened? I am so
sorry :)
> -Nathan
>
> On 29 Feb 2008 23:09:31 +0300, Egor Pasko <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On the 0x3F7 day of Apache Harmony Tim Ellison wrote:
> > > Gregory Shimansky wrote:
> > > > Alexei Zakharov said the following on 22.02.2008 13:48:
> > > >> Hm, I can build Russian pages without any corrupted symbols in it
> > > >> using RI on Win32. What this bug is about?
> > > > This is a strange bug and it manifests differently on different
> > > > windows installations. I think it also depends on your system
> > > > language settings on windows. The bug is in wrong generation of
> > > > UTF-8 characters for some of Cyrillic letters. See [1] and
> > > > predecessors for more details.
> > > > [1] http://harmony.markmail.org/message/lcjnldxiisawfzxq
> > >
> > > Is there any way we can put a check in the build script to ensure the
> > > Russian text has not been broken? Even if it is just checking that
> > > you are running on a Harmony JRE.
> > >
> > > It sounds too easy for people to innocently do the wrong thing here.
> >
> > why?
> >
> > if you do not know Russian, you probably would not edit it. So, "svn
> > diff" would tell you if characters in Russian text changed. And if
> > they did, hey, the wrong thing was about to get in :)
> >
> > --
> > Egor Pasko
> >
> >
>
--
Egor Pasko