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Posted to dev@maven.apache.org by Chris Graham <ch...@gmail.com> on 2012/02/15 10:35:08 UTC
Jazz Scm Provider
Hi All.
I'm working on the maven-scm-provider-jazz implementation for the Jazz SCM
Platform and also by entension, IBM Rational Team Concert (RTC).
I have been given the original IBM code, and have been authority to work on
it and contribute it back to the apache project.
I have my CLA on record with Apache - so if there is anything else that I
need, then please let me know.
I am working the 1.7-SNAPSHOT basis, and I've grafted my code into that.
So it's my intention to raise an issue and submit a patch to fix it. Is
that the best way, for a non-commiter like me to do this?
I'd like to put some images in the generated site. Is that ok? It can be
done, but it does not appear to be done often (or possibly at all). Is it
ok to include relevant images in the site documentation?
I've got it working well enough to be able to use it with the release
plugin/manager.
I just need to add the extra scm functions, add, edit, diff, branch (will
probably not be implented) etc.
I will however, also need to add a single file JazzScmTranslator to the
release manager project as well, so that the poms are rewritten at the
release:prepare stage.
Which brings a design question to mind: To release the jazz code and have
it work with the release plugin, I will have to:
1. Submit the jazz code, get it incoroporated.
2. Have the maven-scm projects release (1.7)
3. Submit the JazzScmTranslator, get it incorporated.
4. Have the maven-release-plugin/manager released (2.2.3).
This would have to happen if any new scm providers (that require URL
rewrites) are introduced. Granted, this is not a common occurance, but
wouldn't it be better for an extra interface be moved to the scm api have
have the release manger use it? That would break some of the dependencies.
Happy to hear your thoughts.
-Chris
Re: Jazz Scm Provider
Posted by Chris Graham <ch...@gmail.com>.
Works for me! and makes perfect sense.
-Chris
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I interpreted it to reflect the 'main' command.
> In the maven-scm-provider-git we often need multiple commands in addition
> to the main cli.
>
> This is mainly for getting additional info like the number and details of
> affected files in a scm:update.
> Since git-pull doesn't always provide this info, we need to do a few
> additional steps.
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Chris Graham <ch...@gmail.com>
> > To: Maven Developers List <de...@maven.apache.org>
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: Jazz Scm Provider
> >
> > One (of many, I'm sure) question:
> >
> > When returning the ScmCommandline, what are you meant to return when you
> execute
> > more than one command?
> >
> > One example from the git provider is that it returns the first command
> executed.
> >
> >
> > I've not traced it back to see where this is used.
> >
> > ???
> >
> > -Chris
>
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Re: Jazz Scm Provider
Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
Hi!
I interpreted it to reflect the 'main' command.
In the maven-scm-provider-git we often need multiple commands in addition to the main cli.
This is mainly for getting additional info like the number and details of affected files in a scm:update.
Since git-pull doesn't always provide this info, we need to do a few additional steps.
LieGrue,
strub
----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris Graham <ch...@gmail.com>
> To: Maven Developers List <de...@maven.apache.org>
> Cc:
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Jazz Scm Provider
>
> One (of many, I'm sure) question:
>
> When returning the ScmCommandline, what are you meant to return when you execute
> more than one command?
>
> One example from the git provider is that it returns the first command executed.
>
>
> I've not traced it back to see where this is used.
>
> ???
>
> -Chris
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Re: Jazz Scm Provider
Posted by Chris Graham <ch...@gmail.com>.
One (of many, I'm sure) question:
When returning the ScmCommandline, what are you meant to return when you execute more than one command?
One example from the git provider is that it returns the first command executed.
I've not traced it back to see where this is used.
???
-Chris
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Re: Jazz Scm Provider
Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
Your welcome Chris!
Actually anyone is welcome - but if the questions also come with some code donation it's even more welcome :)
Feel free to ping us if you need a review or help with the SCM-TCK integration as well!
LieGrue,
strub
----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris Graham <ch...@gmail.com>
> To: Maven Developers List <de...@maven.apache.org>
> Cc:
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Jazz Scm Provider
>
> I have some ideas... :-)
>
> Oh, and I apologise in advance for the million questions that I have in
> advance...
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Great !!
>>
>> 2012/2/15 Chris Graham <ch...@gmail.com>:
>> > Hi All.
>> >
>> > I'm working on the maven-scm-provider-jazz implementation for the
> Jazz
>> SCM
>> > Platform and also by entension, IBM Rational Team Concert (RTC).
>> >
>> > I have been given the original IBM code, and have been authority to
> work
>> on
>> > it and contribute it back to the apache project.
>> As it's coming from IBM, I wonder if you could provide a software
>> grant ? (btw IANAL :-) )
>>
>
> LOL. I think that grant is in that my time is being paid for by them. :-)
>
>
>> >
>> > I have my CLA on record with Apache - so if there is anything else
> that I
>> > need, then please let me know.
>> >
>> > I am working the 1.7-SNAPSHOT basis, and I've grafted my code into
> that.
>> >
>> > So it's my intention to raise an issue and submit a patch to fix
> it. Is
>> > that the best way, for a non-commiter like me to do this?
>> Perfect, I will review it.
>> BTW after we will need someone for maintenance :-)
>>
>> I'd noticed a few places where things could, at the very least be made
> consistent. A lack of consistency in approach (perfectly normal given the
> variety of people who have worked on it) drives me NUTS when trying to
> learn a new piece of code. As it (in me at least) forces me to ask the
> question: WHY ? (are they different, which is correct etc).
>
> For starters, seach on "git log" in the SVN providers section... :-(
>
> Which brings to mind another question: Are there any plans to resource
> strings for i18n?
>
>> I'd like to put some images in the generated site. Is that ok? It can
> be
>> > done, but it does not appear to be done often (or possibly at all). Is
> it
>> > ok to include relevant images in the site documentation?
>> yes good documentation is always welcome !
>>
>
> Cool. I've noticed some work in that area, so I'll try to contribute in
> the
> same manner.
>
>
>> >
>> > I've got it working well enough to be able to use it with the
> release
>> > plugin/manager.
>> >
>> > I just need to add the extra scm functions, add, edit, diff, branch
> (will
>> > probably not be implented) etc.
>> >
>> > I will however, also need to add a single file JazzScmTranslator to
> the
>> > release manager project as well, so that the poms are rewritten at the
>> > release:prepare stage.
>> >
>> > Which brings a design question to mind: To release the jazz code and
> have
>> > it work with the release plugin, I will have to:
>> >
>> > 1. Submit the jazz code, get it incoroporated.
>> > 2. Have the maven-scm projects release (1.7)
>> > 3. Submit the JazzScmTranslator, get it incorporated.
>> > 4. Have the maven-release-plugin/manager released (2.2.3).
>> >
>> > This would have to happen if any new scm providers (that require URL
>> > rewrites) are introduced. Granted, this is not a common occurance, but
>> > wouldn't it be better for an extra interface be moved to the scm
> api have
>> > have the release manger use it? That would break some of the
>> dependencies.
>> AFAIR there is already a TODO for that :-). We can imagine some
>> wrapping code around that (or bump release manager version to 2.3)
>>
>> I think it's just a matter of a new SCM api and moving the code. But
> that
> is not my central focus yet.
>
> I'm still learning Jazz SCM (as opposed to the million other pieces of the
> Jazz platform) as I go.
>
> The usual case. the same terms are used, but all with slightly different
> meanings.
>
> Jazz SCM is like a distributed version of AccuRev, Perforce and probably
> ClearCase as well. Some of the same limitations. No sandbox in a sandbox
> etc.
>
> And this is the first DVCS that I've really used.
>
>
>> > Happy to hear your thoughts.
>> >
>> > -Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Olivier Lamy
>> Talend: http://coders.talend.com
>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>>
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>>
>
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Re: Jazz Scm Provider
Posted by Chris Graham <ch...@gmail.com>.
I have some ideas... :-)
Oh, and I apologise in advance for the million questions that I have in
advance...
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> Great !!
>
> 2012/2/15 Chris Graham <ch...@gmail.com>:
> > Hi All.
> >
> > I'm working on the maven-scm-provider-jazz implementation for the Jazz
> SCM
> > Platform and also by entension, IBM Rational Team Concert (RTC).
> >
> > I have been given the original IBM code, and have been authority to work
> on
> > it and contribute it back to the apache project.
> As it's coming from IBM, I wonder if you could provide a software
> grant ? (btw IANAL :-) )
>
LOL. I think that grant is in that my time is being paid for by them. :-)
> >
> > I have my CLA on record with Apache - so if there is anything else that I
> > need, then please let me know.
> >
> > I am working the 1.7-SNAPSHOT basis, and I've grafted my code into that.
> >
> > So it's my intention to raise an issue and submit a patch to fix it. Is
> > that the best way, for a non-commiter like me to do this?
> Perfect, I will review it.
> BTW after we will need someone for maintenance :-)
>
> I'd noticed a few places where things could, at the very least be made
consistent. A lack of consistency in approach (perfectly normal given the
variety of people who have worked on it) drives me NUTS when trying to
learn a new piece of code. As it (in me at least) forces me to ask the
question: WHY ? (are they different, which is correct etc).
For starters, seach on "git log" in the SVN providers section... :-(
Which brings to mind another question: Are there any plans to resource
strings for i18n?
> I'd like to put some images in the generated site. Is that ok? It can be
> > done, but it does not appear to be done often (or possibly at all). Is it
> > ok to include relevant images in the site documentation?
> yes good documentation is always welcome !
>
Cool. I've noticed some work in that area, so I'll try to contribute in the
same manner.
> >
> > I've got it working well enough to be able to use it with the release
> > plugin/manager.
> >
> > I just need to add the extra scm functions, add, edit, diff, branch (will
> > probably not be implented) etc.
> >
> > I will however, also need to add a single file JazzScmTranslator to the
> > release manager project as well, so that the poms are rewritten at the
> > release:prepare stage.
> >
> > Which brings a design question to mind: To release the jazz code and have
> > it work with the release plugin, I will have to:
> >
> > 1. Submit the jazz code, get it incoroporated.
> > 2. Have the maven-scm projects release (1.7)
> > 3. Submit the JazzScmTranslator, get it incorporated.
> > 4. Have the maven-release-plugin/manager released (2.2.3).
> >
> > This would have to happen if any new scm providers (that require URL
> > rewrites) are introduced. Granted, this is not a common occurance, but
> > wouldn't it be better for an extra interface be moved to the scm api have
> > have the release manger use it? That would break some of the
> dependencies.
> AFAIR there is already a TODO for that :-). We can imagine some
> wrapping code around that (or bump release manager version to 2.3)
>
> I think it's just a matter of a new SCM api and moving the code. But that
is not my central focus yet.
I'm still learning Jazz SCM (as opposed to the million other pieces of the
Jazz platform) as I go.
The usual case. the same terms are used, but all with slightly different
meanings.
Jazz SCM is like a distributed version of AccuRev, Perforce and probably
ClearCase as well. Some of the same limitations. No sandbox in a sandbox
etc.
And this is the first DVCS that I've really used.
> > Happy to hear your thoughts.
> >
> > -Chris
>
>
>
> --
> Olivier Lamy
> Talend: http://coders.talend.com
> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>
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>
Re: Jazz Scm Provider
Posted by Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>.
Great !!
2012/2/15 Chris Graham <ch...@gmail.com>:
> Hi All.
>
> I'm working on the maven-scm-provider-jazz implementation for the Jazz SCM
> Platform and also by entension, IBM Rational Team Concert (RTC).
>
> I have been given the original IBM code, and have been authority to work on
> it and contribute it back to the apache project.
As it's coming from IBM, I wonder if you could provide a software
grant ? (btw IANAL :-) )
>
> I have my CLA on record with Apache - so if there is anything else that I
> need, then please let me know.
>
> I am working the 1.7-SNAPSHOT basis, and I've grafted my code into that.
>
> So it's my intention to raise an issue and submit a patch to fix it. Is
> that the best way, for a non-commiter like me to do this?
Perfect, I will review it.
BTW after we will need someone for maintenance :-)
>
> I'd like to put some images in the generated site. Is that ok? It can be
> done, but it does not appear to be done often (or possibly at all). Is it
> ok to include relevant images in the site documentation?
yes good documentation is always welcome !
>
> I've got it working well enough to be able to use it with the release
> plugin/manager.
>
> I just need to add the extra scm functions, add, edit, diff, branch (will
> probably not be implented) etc.
>
> I will however, also need to add a single file JazzScmTranslator to the
> release manager project as well, so that the poms are rewritten at the
> release:prepare stage.
>
> Which brings a design question to mind: To release the jazz code and have
> it work with the release plugin, I will have to:
>
> 1. Submit the jazz code, get it incoroporated.
> 2. Have the maven-scm projects release (1.7)
> 3. Submit the JazzScmTranslator, get it incorporated.
> 4. Have the maven-release-plugin/manager released (2.2.3).
>
> This would have to happen if any new scm providers (that require URL
> rewrites) are introduced. Granted, this is not a common occurance, but
> wouldn't it be better for an extra interface be moved to the scm api have
> have the release manger use it? That would break some of the dependencies.
AFAIR there is already a TODO for that :-). We can imagine some
wrapping code around that (or bump release manager version to 2.3)
>
> Happy to hear your thoughts.
>
> -Chris
--
Olivier Lamy
Talend: http://coders.talend.com
http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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