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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com> on 2012/02/28 11:13:41 UTC
[RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Hi all,
I just wanted to clarify what we want or plan to release.
Platforms
=========
I plan to release Windows, Linux, MacOS
FreeBSD is handled separately directly form the BSD guys
Solaris, I am unclear about the current status. I saw the developer
snapshots but haven't test it on my own because I have no Solaris
machine nor a VM right now. but I noticed that the build are prepared
with "--disable-mozilla" which will disable some important features. If
we want release it we should build with the pre-built mozilla libs and
should test it.
Products
========
For the developer snapshots we built an English and a multilingual
version + various language packs.
For our first final release I would like to provide at least full
install set for the languages that we have already supported for the dev
snapshots and potentially more language packs for other languages on
demand and we have check the translations
Languages
=========
en-US de fr es it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl
More languages packs when we have verified the translations and when we
have volunteers who are interested to test these languages. Means we
need volunteers from the local communities who are able to test these
languages. When we see enough support we can also provide full install
sets. We have to figure that out over time. I am not sure right now.
Some numbers about the required space
=====================================
A first rough estimation about the required space. We would need round
about ~8,5GB for a proposed release for the 4 platforms (Windows, Linux
(x86, x86-64), MacOS) and 9 languages.
It can grow quite fast if we want release Solaris as well and more
languages.
Source Releases
===============
aoo-3.4-src.zip = ~373MB
aoo-3.4-src.tar.gz = ~312MB
aoo-3.4-src.tar.bz2 = ~250MB
asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~3K
Size = ~935MB
MacOS
=====
dmg = ~160MB
number of languages = 9
asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~10K
Size = 9 * 160MB = 1,44GB
Windows
=======
download exe = 109MB
number of languages = 9
asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~10K (not verified yet)
Size = 9 * 109MB = 990MB
Linux
=====
x86
rpm.tar.gz = 139MB
deb.tar.gz = 138MB
number of languages = 9
asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~20K ((not verified yet))
Size = 9 * 138MB + 9 * 139MB = ~2,5GB
x86-64
rpm.tar.gz = 148MB
deb.tar.gz = 147MB
number of languages = 9
asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~20K (not verified yet)
Size = 9 * 148MB + 9 * 147MB = ~2,6GB
I will contact infra structure team and will clarify if that will be a
potential problem. And I will clarify what necessary to be prepared for
the expected download traffic.
Any opinions on this approach?
Juergen
Re: [RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 2/28/12 12:13 PM, L'oiseau de mer wrote:
> About Solaris platform, maybe you can come in my build machine,
> manipulate and use it to build and test these version.
> Are you willing to do?
I have currently more than enough to do with all the other stuff. I
think it should be not so difficult and the building guide should
provide the necessary info.
You have to provide the moz pre-build libs in moz/zipped and have to use
the --disable-build-mozilla switch.
And of course we should ensure the the install sets are tested!!
Well many people complained about Sun/Oracle in the past but the
machinery in the background did a lot to simply provide the builds and
do the required QA.
This is now different and we as the community have to achieve it.
Juergen
>
>
> 2012/2/28 Jürgen Schmidt<jo...@googlemail.com>:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just wanted to clarify what we want or plan to release.
>>
>> Platforms
>> =========
>> I plan to release Windows, Linux, MacOS
>>
>> FreeBSD is handled separately directly form the BSD guys
>>
>> Solaris, I am unclear about the current status. I saw the developer
>> snapshots but haven't test it on my own because I have no Solaris machine
>> nor a VM right now. but I noticed that the build are prepared with
>> "--disable-mozilla" which will disable some important features. If we want
>> release it we should build with the pre-built mozilla libs and should test
>> it.
>>
>> Products
>> ========
>> For the developer snapshots we built an English and a multilingual version +
>> various language packs.
>>
>> For our first final release I would like to provide at least full install
>> set for the languages that we have already supported for the dev snapshots
>> and potentially more language packs for other languages on demand and we
>> have check the translations
>>
>> Languages
>> =========
>> en-US de fr es it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl
>>
>> More languages packs when we have verified the translations and when we have
>> volunteers who are interested to test these languages. Means we need
>> volunteers from the local communities who are able to test these languages.
>> When we see enough support we can also provide full install sets. We have to
>> figure that out over time. I am not sure right now.
>>
>>
>> Some numbers about the required space
>> =====================================
>>
>> A first rough estimation about the required space. We would need round about
>> ~8,5GB for a proposed release for the 4 platforms (Windows, Linux (x86,
>> x86-64), MacOS) and 9 languages.
>>
>> It can grow quite fast if we want release Solaris as well and more
>> languages.
>>
>> Source Releases
>> ===============
>> aoo-3.4-src.zip = ~373MB
>> aoo-3.4-src.tar.gz = ~312MB
>> aoo-3.4-src.tar.bz2 = ~250MB
>> asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~3K
>> Size = ~935MB
>>
>> MacOS
>> =====
>> dmg = ~160MB
>> number of languages = 9
>> asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~10K
>> Size = 9 * 160MB = 1,44GB
>>
>> Windows
>> =======
>> download exe = 109MB
>> number of languages = 9
>> asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~10K (not verified yet)
>> Size = 9 * 109MB = 990MB
>>
>> Linux
>> =====
>> x86
>> rpm.tar.gz = 139MB
>> deb.tar.gz = 138MB
>> number of languages = 9
>> asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~20K ((not verified yet))
>> Size = 9 * 138MB + 9 * 139MB = ~2,5GB
>>
>> x86-64
>> rpm.tar.gz = 148MB
>> deb.tar.gz = 147MB
>> number of languages = 9
>> asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~20K (not verified yet)
>> Size = 9 * 148MB + 9 * 147MB = ~2,6GB
>>
>>
>> I will contact infra structure team and will clarify if that will be a
>> potential problem. And I will clarify what necessary to be prepared for the
>> expected download traffic.
>>
>> Any opinions on this approach?
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: [RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Posted by L'oiseau de mer <oi...@gmail.com>.
About Solaris platform, maybe you can come in my build machine,
manipulate and use it to build and test these version.
Are you willing to do?
2012/2/28 Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>:
> Hi all,
>
> I just wanted to clarify what we want or plan to release.
>
> Platforms
> =========
> I plan to release Windows, Linux, MacOS
>
> FreeBSD is handled separately directly form the BSD guys
>
> Solaris, I am unclear about the current status. I saw the developer
> snapshots but haven't test it on my own because I have no Solaris machine
> nor a VM right now. but I noticed that the build are prepared with
> "--disable-mozilla" which will disable some important features. If we want
> release it we should build with the pre-built mozilla libs and should test
> it.
>
> Products
> ========
> For the developer snapshots we built an English and a multilingual version +
> various language packs.
>
> For our first final release I would like to provide at least full install
> set for the languages that we have already supported for the dev snapshots
> and potentially more language packs for other languages on demand and we
> have check the translations
>
> Languages
> =========
> en-US de fr es it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl
>
> More languages packs when we have verified the translations and when we have
> volunteers who are interested to test these languages. Means we need
> volunteers from the local communities who are able to test these languages.
> When we see enough support we can also provide full install sets. We have to
> figure that out over time. I am not sure right now.
>
>
> Some numbers about the required space
> =====================================
>
> A first rough estimation about the required space. We would need round about
> ~8,5GB for a proposed release for the 4 platforms (Windows, Linux (x86,
> x86-64), MacOS) and 9 languages.
>
> It can grow quite fast if we want release Solaris as well and more
> languages.
>
> Source Releases
> ===============
> aoo-3.4-src.zip = ~373MB
> aoo-3.4-src.tar.gz = ~312MB
> aoo-3.4-src.tar.bz2 = ~250MB
> asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~3K
> Size = ~935MB
>
> MacOS
> =====
> dmg = ~160MB
> number of languages = 9
> asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~10K
> Size = 9 * 160MB = 1,44GB
>
> Windows
> =======
> download exe = 109MB
> number of languages = 9
> asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~10K (not verified yet)
> Size = 9 * 109MB = 990MB
>
> Linux
> =====
> x86
> rpm.tar.gz = 139MB
> deb.tar.gz = 138MB
> number of languages = 9
> asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~20K ((not verified yet))
> Size = 9 * 138MB + 9 * 139MB = ~2,5GB
>
> x86-64
> rpm.tar.gz = 148MB
> deb.tar.gz = 147MB
> number of languages = 9
> asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~20K (not verified yet)
> Size = 9 * 148MB + 9 * 147MB = ~2,6GB
>
>
> I will contact infra structure team and will clarify if that will be a
> potential problem. And I will clarify what necessary to be prepared for the
> expected download traffic.
>
> Any opinions on this approach?
>
> Juergen
>
>
>
>
Re: [RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Posted by Yakov Reztsov <ya...@mail.ru>.
28 февраля 2012, 14:14 от Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>:
> Hi all,
> Languages
> =========
> en-US de fr es it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl
>
> More languages packs when we have verified the translations and when we
> have volunteers who are interested to test these languages. Means we
> need volunteers from the local communities who are able to test these
> languages. When we see enough support we can also provide full install
> sets. We have to figure that out over time. I am not sure right now.
>
> Any opinions on this approach?
>
> Juergen
>
What about Russian Language (ru)?
I want test these language.
--
Yakov Reztsov
Re: [RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Posted by imacat <im...@mail.imacat.idv.tw>.
On 2012/03/01 00:21, Ariel Constenla-Haile said:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 06:17:08PM +0100, Reizinger Zoltán wrote:
> I've uploaded hu, ru, and zh-TW langpacks for Linux 32 and 64 bits.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots#AOO3.4UnofficialDeveloperSnapshots-langpacks
This is really a great news. I shall forward this to our local
community.
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Re: [RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
Am Mittwoch, 29. Februar 2012 schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile :
> Hi *,
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 06:17:08PM +0100, Reizinger Zoltán wrote:
> > If I know correctly the OOo 3.4Beta all UI strings was translated in
> > Hungarian version, when I tested it not found any problems.
> > Needs to be checked in HU version of AOO 3.4 or in langpack, that
> > the changes not caused any UI problems.
> > I try to organise the HU langpack testing, but most HU OOo project
> > went to the LibO.
> > I can test on win and linux platform.
> > Please build HU langpack, too.
>
> I've uploaded hu, ru, and zh-TW langpacks for Linux 32 and 64 bits.
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots#AOO3.4UnofficialDeveloperSnapshots-langpacks
>
>
yes a good idea, I plannend it for the next builds but why not for the
current ones. I will provide them tomorrow.
Juergen
Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
>
Re: [RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
<jo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 3/2/12 9:23 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>>
>> Hi imcat,
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 11:02:32AM +0800, imacat wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2012/03/01 00:21, Ariel Constenla-Haile said:
>>>>
>>>> I've uploaded hu, ru, and zh-TW langpacks for Linux 32 and 64 bits.
>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots#AOO3.4UnofficialDeveloperSnapshots-langpacks
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm... On a second thought, I do not think it is fair to have a
>>> "mutli-lingual full installation sets" and "language packs" for other
>>> languages. What's the reason behind the decision that some languages
>>> are in the "mutli-lingual full installation sets" and others in the
>>> "language packs"?
>>
>>
>> I didn't build an updated multilingual install set because it takes too
>> much time for me to upload those files:
>> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/r1293550/scp.log
>>
>>
>> OOo-Dev_OOO340m1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US_de_es_fr_it_ja_nl_pt-BR_zh-CN.tar.gz
>> 100% 260MB 61.9KB/s 1:11:38
>>
>> OOo-Dev_OOO340m1_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US_de_es_fr_it_ja_nl_pt-BR_zh-CN.tar.gz
>> 100% 259MB 60.8KB/s 1:12:48
>>
>> OOo-Dev_OOO340m1_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US_de_es_fr_it_ja_nl_pt-BR_zh-CN.tar.gz
>> 100% 250MB 61.9KB/s 1:08:59
>>
>> OOo-Dev_OOO340m1_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US_de_es_fr_it_ja_nl_pt-BR_zh-CN.tar.gz
>> 100% 250MB 62.5KB/s 1:08:15
>>
>>
>> Now that we added 3 more languages, IMO those multilingual install sets
>> don't make much sense. I'd propose we drop building them the next week.
>>
> I can live with this and I would like to suggest that we build no dev
> snapshots but normal full install sets and language packs to improve the
> testing.
>
+1
> Well we have to make clear that people should be more careful to protect
> their user data etc.
>
> Any opinions?
>
> Juergen
Re: [RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 3/2/12 9:23 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> Hi imcat,
>
> On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 11:02:32AM +0800, imacat wrote:
>> On 2012/03/01 00:21, Ariel Constenla-Haile said:
>>> I've uploaded hu, ru, and zh-TW langpacks for Linux 32 and 64 bits.
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots#AOO3.4UnofficialDeveloperSnapshots-langpacks
>>
>> Hmm... On a second thought, I do not think it is fair to have a
>> "mutli-lingual full installation sets" and "language packs" for other
>> languages. What's the reason behind the decision that some languages
>> are in the "mutli-lingual full installation sets" and others in the
>> "language packs"?
>
> I didn't build an updated multilingual install set because it takes too
> much time for me to upload those files:
> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/r1293550/scp.log
>
> OOo-Dev_OOO340m1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US_de_es_fr_it_ja_nl_pt-BR_zh-CN.tar.gz 100% 260MB 61.9KB/s 1:11:38
> OOo-Dev_OOO340m1_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US_de_es_fr_it_ja_nl_pt-BR_zh-CN.tar.gz 100% 259MB 60.8KB/s 1:12:48
> OOo-Dev_OOO340m1_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US_de_es_fr_it_ja_nl_pt-BR_zh-CN.tar.gz 100% 250MB 61.9KB/s 1:08:59
> OOo-Dev_OOO340m1_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US_de_es_fr_it_ja_nl_pt-BR_zh-CN.tar.gz 100% 250MB 62.5KB/s 1:08:15
>
>
> Now that we added 3 more languages, IMO those multilingual install sets
> don't make much sense. I'd propose we drop building them the next week.
>
I can live with this and I would like to suggest that we build no dev
snapshots but normal full install sets and language packs to improve the
testing.
Well we have to make clear that people should be more careful to protect
their user data etc.
Any opinions?
Juergen
Re: [RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
Hi imcat,
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 11:02:32AM +0800, imacat wrote:
> On 2012/03/01 00:21, Ariel Constenla-Haile said:
> > I've uploaded hu, ru, and zh-TW langpacks for Linux 32 and 64 bits.
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots#AOO3.4UnofficialDeveloperSnapshots-langpacks
>
> Hmm... On a second thought, I do not think it is fair to have a
> "mutli-lingual full installation sets" and "language packs" for other
> languages. What's the reason behind the decision that some languages
> are in the "mutli-lingual full installation sets" and others in the
> "language packs"?
I didn't build an updated multilingual install set because it takes too
much time for me to upload those files:
http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/r1293550/scp.log
OOo-Dev_OOO340m1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US_de_es_fr_it_ja_nl_pt-BR_zh-CN.tar.gz 100% 260MB 61.9KB/s 1:11:38
OOo-Dev_OOO340m1_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US_de_es_fr_it_ja_nl_pt-BR_zh-CN.tar.gz 100% 259MB 60.8KB/s 1:12:48
OOo-Dev_OOO340m1_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US_de_es_fr_it_ja_nl_pt-BR_zh-CN.tar.gz 100% 250MB 61.9KB/s 1:08:59
OOo-Dev_OOO340m1_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US_de_es_fr_it_ja_nl_pt-BR_zh-CN.tar.gz 100% 250MB 62.5KB/s 1:08:15
Now that we added 3 more languages, IMO those multilingual install sets
don't make much sense. I'd propose we drop building them the next week.
Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina
Re: [RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Posted by imacat <im...@mail.imacat.idv.tw>.
On 2012/03/01 00:21, Ariel Constenla-Haile said:
> I've uploaded hu, ru, and zh-TW langpacks for Linux 32 and 64 bits.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots#AOO3.4UnofficialDeveloperSnapshots-langpacks
Hmm... On a second thought, I do not think it is fair to have a
"mutli-lingual full installation sets" and "language packs" for other
languages. What's the reason behind the decision that some languages
are in the "mutli-lingual full installation sets" and others in the
"language packs"?
--
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Re: [RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
Hi *,
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 06:17:08PM +0100, Reizinger Zoltán wrote:
> If I know correctly the OOo 3.4Beta all UI strings was translated in
> Hungarian version, when I tested it not found any problems.
> Needs to be checked in HU version of AOO 3.4 or in langpack, that
> the changes not caused any UI problems.
> I try to organise the HU langpack testing, but most HU OOo project
> went to the LibO.
> I can test on win and linux platform.
> Please build HU langpack, too.
I've uploaded hu, ru, and zh-TW langpacks for Linux 32 and 64 bits.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots#AOO3.4UnofficialDeveloperSnapshots-langpacks
Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina
Re: [RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Posted by Reizinger Zoltán <zr...@hdsnet.hu>.
2012.02.28. 11:13 keltezéssel, Jürgen Schmidt írta:
> Hi all,
>
> I just wanted to clarify what we want or plan to release.
>
> Platforms
> =========
> I plan to release Windows, Linux, MacOS
>
> FreeBSD is handled separately directly form the BSD guys
>
> Solaris, I am unclear about the current status. I saw the developer
> snapshots but haven't test it on my own because I have no Solaris
> machine nor a VM right now. but I noticed that the build are prepared
> with "--disable-mozilla" which will disable some important features.
> If we want release it we should build with the pre-built mozilla libs
> and should test it.
>
> Products
> ========
> For the developer snapshots we built an English and a multilingual
> version + various language packs.
>
> For our first final release I would like to provide at least full
> install set for the languages that we have already supported for the
> dev snapshots and potentially more language packs for other languages
> on demand and we have check the translations
>
> Languages
> =========
> en-US de fr es it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl
>
> More languages packs when we have verified the translations and when
> we have volunteers who are interested to test these languages. Means
> we need volunteers from the local communities who are able to test
> these languages. When we see enough support we can also provide full
> install sets. We have to figure that out over time. I am not sure
> right now.
If I know correctly the OOo 3.4Beta all UI strings was translated in
Hungarian version, when I tested it not found any problems.
Needs to be checked in HU version of AOO 3.4 or in langpack, that the
changes not caused any UI problems.
I try to organise the HU langpack testing, but most HU OOo project went
to the LibO.
I can test on win and linux platform.
Please build HU langpack, too.
Zoltan
Re: [RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Posted by imacat <im...@mail.imacat.idv.tw>.
On 2012/02/28 18:13, Jürgen Schmidt said:
> Languages
> =========
> en-US de fr es it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl
What can we do (and on which translation platform) for zh-TW
(Traditional Chinese) to be added to the list? Our local community was
awaiting for revising the translation for a long time.
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Re: [RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 2/28/12 12:08 PM, Uwe Altmann wrote:
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> Hi
>
> Am 28.02.12 11:13, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>
>> I just wanted to clarify what we want or plan to release. ...
>
> Maybe it's a good idea to offer also torrents for all these>100MB
> downloads?
well I am not so familiar with mirror networks etc.
I hope we can benefit from the experience and the mirror network from
Apache.
I will provide the files on www.apache.org/dist/incubator/openoffice.
Juergen
> - --
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> Uwe Altmann
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Re: [RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Posted by Uwe Altmann <oo...@altsys.de>.
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Hi
Am 28.02.12 11:13, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
> I just wanted to clarify what we want or plan to release. ...
Maybe it's a good idea to offer also torrents for all these >100MB
downloads?
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Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Uwe Altmann
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Re: [RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,
I forgot the SDK which is ~12MB - ??MB for each platform
Juergen
On 2/28/12 11:13 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just wanted to clarify what we want or plan to release.
>
> Platforms
> =========
> I plan to release Windows, Linux, MacOS
>
> FreeBSD is handled separately directly form the BSD guys
>
> Solaris, I am unclear about the current status. I saw the developer
> snapshots but haven't test it on my own because I have no Solaris
> machine nor a VM right now. but I noticed that the build are prepared
> with "--disable-mozilla" which will disable some important features. If
> we want release it we should build with the pre-built mozilla libs and
> should test it.
>
> Products
> ========
> For the developer snapshots we built an English and a multilingual
> version + various language packs.
>
> For our first final release I would like to provide at least full
> install set for the languages that we have already supported for the dev
> snapshots and potentially more language packs for other languages on
> demand and we have check the translations
>
> Languages
> =========
> en-US de fr es it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl
>
> More languages packs when we have verified the translations and when we
> have volunteers who are interested to test these languages. Means we
> need volunteers from the local communities who are able to test these
> languages. When we see enough support we can also provide full install
> sets. We have to figure that out over time. I am not sure right now.
>
>
> Some numbers about the required space
> =====================================
>
> A first rough estimation about the required space. We would need round
> about ~8,5GB for a proposed release for the 4 platforms (Windows, Linux
> (x86, x86-64), MacOS) and 9 languages.
>
> It can grow quite fast if we want release Solaris as well and more
> languages.
>
> Source Releases
> ===============
> aoo-3.4-src.zip = ~373MB
> aoo-3.4-src.tar.gz = ~312MB
> aoo-3.4-src.tar.bz2 = ~250MB
> asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~3K
> Size = ~935MB
>
> MacOS
> =====
> dmg = ~160MB
> number of languages = 9
> asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~10K
> Size = 9 * 160MB = 1,44GB
>
> Windows
> =======
> download exe = 109MB
> number of languages = 9
> asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~10K (not verified yet)
> Size = 9 * 109MB = 990MB
>
> Linux
> =====
> x86
> rpm.tar.gz = 139MB
> deb.tar.gz = 138MB
> number of languages = 9
> asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~20K ((not verified yet))
> Size = 9 * 138MB + 9 * 139MB = ~2,5GB
>
> x86-64
> rpm.tar.gz = 148MB
> deb.tar.gz = 147MB
> number of languages = 9
> asc, md5, sha1, sha512 files = ~20K (not verified yet)
> Size = 9 * 148MB + 9 * 147MB = ~2,6GB
>
>
> I will contact infra structure team and will clarify if that will be a
> potential problem. And I will clarify what necessary to be prepared for
> the expected download traffic.
>
> Any opinions on this approach?
>
> Juergen
>
>
>
>
Re: [RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Posted by Paolo Pozzan <pa...@z2z.it>.
Il 28/02/2012 17:34, Jürgen Schmidt ha scritto:
> On 2/28/12 4:29 PM, FR web forum wrote:
>> <cut>
>>
>>> Languages
>>> en-US de fr es it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl
>>> More languages packs when we have verified the translations and when we
>>> have volunteers who are interested to test these languages. Means we
>>> need volunteers from the local communities who are able to test these
>>> languages. When we see enough support we can also provide full install
>>> sets. We have to figure that out over time. I am not sure right now.
>>
>> Actually in french, this pack is incomplete and unusable.
>> Many strings are not translated.
>> So, we expect Pootle and french .po file to provide a correct
>> translation.
>
> ok, sounds not good. It seems that we have to work on the pootle stuff ...
>
> Do you have local backups or do you know if there was work ongoing for a
> 3.4? I know that many of the French community went to LibreOffice.
>
> Can you maybe also check the data available on
> http://people.apache.org/~af/
Given that with OOo every l10n team had its own workflow, I propose to
populate the Apache instance of pootle server with the translatable
strings of the to-be-released code, then every team should be able to
easily merge the previous translations with the new one.
Either way a similar process is doable with the snapshot of the old
pootle in a somewhat bulkier mode.
BTW, this is my first post in this list. I was the lead translator for
italian OOo (and probably I will be it also for AOO).
Paolo
Re: [RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 2/28/12 4:29 PM, FR web forum wrote:
> <cut>
>
>> Languages
>> en-US de fr es it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl
>> More languages packs when we have verified the translations and when we
>> have volunteers who are interested to test these languages. Means we
>> need volunteers from the local communities who are able to test these
>> languages. When we see enough support we can also provide full install
>> sets. We have to figure that out over time. I am not sure right now.
>
> Actually in french, this pack is incomplete and unusable.
> Many strings are not translated.
> So, we expect Pootle and french .po file to provide a correct translation.
ok, sounds not good. It seems that we have to work on the pootle stuff ...
Do you have local backups or do you know if there was work ongoing for a
3.4? I know that many of the French community went to LibreOffice.
Can you maybe also check the data available on
http://people.apache.org/~af/
Juergen
Re: [RELEASE]: release platforms, products and languages
Posted by FR web forum <oo...@free.fr>.
<cut>
>Languages
>en-US de fr es it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl
>More languages packs when we have verified the translations and when we
>have volunteers who are interested to test these languages. Means we
>need volunteers from the local communities who are able to test these
>languages. When we see enough support we can also provide full install
>sets. We have to figure that out over time. I am not sure right now.
Actually in french, this pack is incomplete and unusable.
Many strings are not translated.
So, we expect Pootle and french .po file to provide a correct translation.