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Posted to dev@tomcat.apache.org by Jeff Turner <je...@socialchange.net.au> on 2002/05/26 06:41:21 UTC
Divorcing karma from CVS access? (Re: Vicious Abuse?)
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 03:51:54PM +0100, Pier Fumagalli wrote:
> "Jeff Turner" <je...@socialchange.net.au> wrote:
>
> > .. and thankful that people like Costin persevere in spite of rather
> > vicious abuse.
>
> Vicious abuse? All I am proposing is to add greater flexibility to the
> freedom of those who are involved with the Jakarta project.
I was objecting to unprovoked Costin-bashing outside tomcat-dev, not
your proposal. People outside tomcat-dev may not understand why a PMC
member deserved your comments ;P
As for your proposal, a few thoughts:
- AFAIK there is no requirement that a committer be a coder. See the
definition on http://jakarta.apache.org/site/roles.html. An example:
Diana Shannon voted as a Cocoon committer, for volunteering to
coordinate docs:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=101896493700004&r=1&w=2
- Your proposal redefined 'contributor' to include CVS access, and I
think that will cause confusion with the existing, looser meaning.
- (random thoughts..) The whole notion of defining a person's worth in
terms of their CVS access seems backwards and wrong. The
'committer/non-committer' dividing line is an artifact of CVS's
coarse-grained access control, and will disappear once we migrate to
Subversion or whatever. It would be nice if there was a 'rating'
system that didn't hijack the versioning system's terminology. Karma
rated on a different scale to CVS access. Then there could be a
one-way mapping, X karma -> Y CVS access. The karma system could be
something like advogato's (http://www.advogato.org/trust-metric.html
http://www.advogato.org/person/).
--Jeff
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Re: subverting CVS WAS: Re: Divorcing karma from CVS access?
(Re:Vicious Abuse?)
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
>
> As for now, I'd be happy when I see Scarab b7+ running <nudge nudge>
>
Status on that is this:
1. Monday is a holiday
2. Sometime next week I hope/plan to drive my server back to its
"co-located home"
3. Test detonate my Scarab installing on it (appreciate here that I'm
taking more care not to screw up Apache servers than I do my own ;-) )
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Re: subverting CVS WAS: Re: Divorcing karma from CVS access? (Re:Vicious Abuse?)
Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>
> So is there an interest in one day migrating to subversion? I don't
> think its *ready* yet but I've always wanted to try it. I never have,
> because I thought "well I'd like to try a lot of things but as long as I
> won't be able to use it most places whats the point". A tentative yes
> here might give me motivation.
I think that everyone here would like a better thing than CVS, and
Subversion is maybe the biggest hope.
What I would like to know, since there are coders here that use it, what is
the "real" status and what can we expect the reasonable adoption in Apache
to be.
As for now, I'd be happy when I see Scarab b7+ running <nudge nudge>
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subverting CVS WAS: Re: Divorcing karma from CVS access? (Re:
Vicious Abuse?)
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
So is there an interest in one day migrating to subversion? I don't
think its *ready* yet but I've always wanted to try it. I never have,
because I thought "well I'd like to try a lot of things but as long as I
won't be able to use it most places whats the point". A tentative yes
here might give me motivation.
-Andy
> - (random thoughts..) The whole notion of defining a person's worth in
> terms of their CVS access seems backwards and wrong. The
> 'committer/non-committer' dividing line is an artifact of CVS's
> coarse-grained access control, and will disappear once we migrate to
> Subversion or whatever. It would be nice if there was a 'rating'
> system that didn't hijack the versioning system's terminology. Karma
> rated on a different scale to CVS access. Then there could be a
> one-way mapping, X karma -> Y CVS access. The karma system could be
> something like advogato's (http://www.advogato.org/trust-metric.html
> http://www.advogato.org/person/).
>
>
> --Jeff
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a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects!
The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to
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-Ambassador Kosh
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