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Posted to dev@trafodion.apache.org by Gunnar Tapper <ta...@gmail.com> on 2016/11/11 20:39:21 UTC
Encourage Community
Hi,
You might have noticed that there's a link to the "Geode/Trafodion Elite
Group" on QQ on the web page. This is to help Chinese speakers engage in
Chinese when not comfortable with communicating in English.
I started a discussion on the incubator list on this topic, which quickly
included the members list, too. Talk about going big.
As you know, the Apache mantra is "everything happens on the mail lists."
That's no longer true but I still think that we need to encourage it.
As a first step, I propose that we encourage people to ask questions in
their native language on the mailing lists (especially user) making it
clear that the Trafodion community has no problem with that since we use a
Translator to understand the question. I further propose that we do respond
in English as much as possible relying on the recipient to use a
Translator, too.
If you agree on with this, then I'd like to add a new section to the main
page that describes the above in different languages. We'll provide as many
languages as we can even if 99.99% will be OK with English if living in;
for example, Sweden. It's more about the message...
A starting point for word smithing and later translation (I can do the
translation to Swedish, I'm sure Hans can handle, Ming can do Chinese and
so on.)
"You can communicate with the Trafodion community even if you are
uncomfortable with English. Just send an e-mail in your preferred language
to user@trafodion.apache.org. As a community, we use translation software
to help remove language barriers. Most often, we respond in English so that
you can use translation software, too."
We might also provide a page that provides language-specific instructions
on how to join and leave our mailing lists.
Thoughts?
--
Thanks,
Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
Re: Encourage Community
Posted by Carol Pearson <ca...@gmail.com>.
+1 from here as well. The challenge comes in searching messages - I'm not
sure which websearch facilities can pattern match across languages. Still,
more people participating comfortably is a very good thing.
-Carol P.
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Email: carol.pearson234@gmail.com
Twitter: @CarolP222
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On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Liu, Ming (Ming) <mi...@esgyn.cn> wrote:
> +1 as well.
>
> Ming
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jin, Jian (Seth) [mailto:Jian.jin@esgyn.cn]
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:09 AM
> To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Encourage Community
>
> +1.
> Actually the Chinese users are active in a QQ Group, that is instant
> message software, as I know some of them are not good at English, so it is
> good idea that our community can answer questions in different languages.
> The same to the rest of world.
>
> Br,
>
> Seth
>
> Sent from mobile device, pls excuse any typo.
>
> 在 2016年11月12日，上午4:54，Eric Owhadi <er...@esgyn.com> 写道：
>
> +1, good idea
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gunnar@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 2:39 PM
> To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Encourage Community
>
> Hi,
>
> You might have noticed that there's a link to the "Geode/Trafodion Elite
> Group" on QQ on the web page. This is to help Chinese speakers engage in
> Chinese when not comfortable with communicating in English.
>
> I started a discussion on the incubator list on this topic, which quickly
> included the members list, too. Talk about going big.
>
> As you know, the Apache mantra is "everything happens on the mail lists."
> That's no longer true but I still think that we need to encourage it.
>
> As a first step, I propose that we encourage people to ask questions in
> their native language on the mailing lists (especially user) making it
> clear that the Trafodion community has no problem with that since we use a
> Translator to understand the question. I further propose that we do respond
> in English as much as possible relying on the recipient to use a
> Translator, too.
>
> If you agree on with this, then I'd like to add a new section to the main
> page that describes the above in different languages. We'll provide as many
> languages as we can even if 99.99% will be OK with English if living in;
> for example, Sweden. It's more about the message...
>
> A starting point for word smithing and later translation (I can do the
> translation to Swedish, I'm sure Hans can handle, Ming can do Chinese and
> so on.)
>
> "You can communicate with the Trafodion community even if you are
> uncomfortable with English. Just send an e-mail in your preferred language
> to user@trafodion.apache.org. As a community, we use translation software
> to help remove language barriers. Most often, we respond in English so that
> you can use translation software, too."
>
> We might also provide a page that provides language-specific instructions
> on how to join and leave our mailing lists.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Gunnar
> *If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
>
RE: Encourage Community
Posted by "Liu, Ming (Ming)" <mi...@esgyn.cn>.
+1 as well.
Ming
-----Original Message-----
From: Jin, Jian (Seth) [mailto:Jian.jin@esgyn.cn]
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 7:09 AM
To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Encourage Community
+1.
Actually the Chinese users are active in a QQ Group, that is instant message software, as I know some of them are not good at English, so it is good idea that our community can answer questions in different languages. The same to the rest of world.
Br,
Seth
Sent from mobile device, pls excuse any typo.
在 2016年11月12日，上午4:54，Eric Owhadi <er...@esgyn.com> 写道：
+1, good idea
-----Original Message-----
From: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gunnar@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 2:39 PM
To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Encourage Community
Hi,
You might have noticed that there's a link to the "Geode/Trafodion Elite Group" on QQ on the web page. This is to help Chinese speakers engage in Chinese when not comfortable with communicating in English.
I started a discussion on the incubator list on this topic, which quickly included the members list, too. Talk about going big.
As you know, the Apache mantra is "everything happens on the mail lists."
That's no longer true but I still think that we need to encourage it.
As a first step, I propose that we encourage people to ask questions in their native language on the mailing lists (especially user) making it clear that the Trafodion community has no problem with that since we use a Translator to understand the question. I further propose that we do respond in English as much as possible relying on the recipient to use a Translator, too.
If you agree on with this, then I'd like to add a new section to the main page that describes the above in different languages. We'll provide as many languages as we can even if 99.99% will be OK with English if living in; for example, Sweden. It's more about the message...
A starting point for word smithing and later translation (I can do the translation to Swedish, I'm sure Hans can handle, Ming can do Chinese and so on.)
"You can communicate with the Trafodion community even if you are uncomfortable with English. Just send an e-mail in your preferred language to user@trafodion.apache.org. As a community, we use translation software to help remove language barriers. Most often, we respond in English so that you can use translation software, too."
We might also provide a page that provides language-specific instructions on how to join and leave our mailing lists.
Thoughts?
--
Thanks,
Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
Re: Encourage Community
Posted by "Jin, Jian (Seth)" <Ji...@esgyn.cn>.
+1.
Actually the Chinese users are active in a QQ Group, that is instant message software, as I know some of them are not good at English, so it is good idea that our community can answer questions in different languages. The same to the rest of world.
Br,
Seth
Sent from mobile device, pls excuse any typo.
在 2016年11月12日，上午4:54，Eric Owhadi <er...@esgyn.com> 写道：
+1, good idea
-----Original Message-----
From: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gunnar@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 2:39 PM
To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Encourage Community
Hi,
You might have noticed that there's a link to the "Geode/Trafodion Elite Group" on QQ on the web page. This is to help Chinese speakers engage in Chinese when not comfortable with communicating in English.
I started a discussion on the incubator list on this topic, which quickly included the members list, too. Talk about going big.
As you know, the Apache mantra is "everything happens on the mail lists."
That's no longer true but I still think that we need to encourage it.
As a first step, I propose that we encourage people to ask questions in their native language on the mailing lists (especially user) making it clear that the Trafodion community has no problem with that since we use a Translator to understand the question. I further propose that we do respond in English as much as possible relying on the recipient to use a Translator, too.
If you agree on with this, then I'd like to add a new section to the main page that describes the above in different languages. We'll provide as many languages as we can even if 99.99% will be OK with English if living in; for example, Sweden. It's more about the message...
A starting point for word smithing and later translation (I can do the translation to Swedish, I'm sure Hans can handle, Ming can do Chinese and so on.)
"You can communicate with the Trafodion community even if you are uncomfortable with English. Just send an e-mail in your preferred language to user@trafodion.apache.org. As a community, we use translation software to help remove language barriers. Most often, we respond in English so that you can use translation software, too."
We might also provide a page that provides language-specific instructions on how to join and leave our mailing lists.
Thoughts?
--
Thanks,
Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*
RE: Encourage Community
Posted by Eric Owhadi <er...@esgyn.com>.
+1, good idea
-----Original Message-----
From: Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gunnar@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 2:39 PM
To: dev@trafodion.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Encourage Community
Hi,
You might have noticed that there's a link to the "Geode/Trafodion Elite Group" on QQ on the web page. This is to help Chinese speakers engage in Chinese when not comfortable with communicating in English.
I started a discussion on the incubator list on this topic, which quickly included the members list, too. Talk about going big.
As you know, the Apache mantra is "everything happens on the mail lists."
That's no longer true but I still think that we need to encourage it.
As a first step, I propose that we encourage people to ask questions in their native language on the mailing lists (especially user) making it clear that the Trafodion community has no problem with that since we use a Translator to understand the question. I further propose that we do respond in English as much as possible relying on the recipient to use a Translator, too.
If you agree on with this, then I'd like to add a new section to the main page that describes the above in different languages. We'll provide as many languages as we can even if 99.99% will be OK with English if living in; for example, Sweden. It's more about the message...
A starting point for word smithing and later translation (I can do the translation to Swedish, I'm sure Hans can handle, Ming can do Chinese and so on.)
"You can communicate with the Trafodion community even if you are uncomfortable with English. Just send an e-mail in your preferred language to user@trafodion.apache.org. As a community, we use translation software to help remove language barriers. Most often, we respond in English so that you can use translation software, too."
We might also provide a page that provides language-specific instructions on how to join and leave our mailing lists.
Thoughts?
--
Thanks,
Gunnar
*If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right.*