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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> on 2012/12/29 20:39:41 UTC
First attempt at January2013 report template
I've used my improved clutch2report.py tool to push a template for
January 2013. It includes some extra bits to help me (or anyone else)
notice missing signoffs and reports.
Of course, it uses the clutch as of today.
Would folks prefer that I wipe this out until closer to the event, or
should I leave it?
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Re: First attempt at January2013 report template
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
David Crossley wrote on Wed, Jan 02, 2013 at 16:40:11 +1100:
> Jukka Zitting wrote:
> > David Crossley kirjoitti:
> > >
> > > It all requires podlings to keep the project metadata up-to-date!
> > > Clutch can only use the data that it is fed. The poor state of
> > > the metadata has many ramifications.
> > >
> > > The main laggards are "graduated" projects.
> > >
> > > That behaviour will cause similar issues when they are TLPs.
> >
> > True, though we should always remember that we are here primarily to write
> > great open source software and help others do so, not to maintain
> > impeccable project metadata.
> >
> > The main beneficiaries of good podling metadata are the IPMC and the tools
> > we use to guide Incubator processes, while the podlings themselves gain
> > little direct value from updating Incubator records.
>
> I see that main ASF Infra are starting to utlilise the podling
> metadata for setting up the TLP resources.
Infra only uses the status='current' attribute of podlings.xml.
That said, we use it once in a script that podlings need to use when
they enter (mlreq), and once in a script the podlings use when they
graduate (no UI name). So podlings have an incentive to keep the
'status' attribute up-to-date both at creation and at graduation.
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Re: First attempt at January2013 report template
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Jukka Zitting wrote:
> David Crossley kirjoitti:
> >
> > It all requires podlings to keep the project metadata up-to-date!
> > Clutch can only use the data that it is fed. The poor state of
> > the metadata has many ramifications.
> >
> > The main laggards are "graduated" projects.
> >
> > That behaviour will cause similar issues when they are TLPs.
>
> True, though we should always remember that we are here primarily to write
> great open source software and help others do so, not to maintain
> impeccable project metadata.
>
> The main beneficiaries of good podling metadata are the IPMC and the tools
> we use to guide Incubator processes, while the podlings themselves gain
> little direct value from updating Incubator records.
I see that main ASF Infra are starting to utlilise the podling
metadata for setting up the TLP resources.
So it may also affect the projects directly, and cause
unnecessary work for other volunteers.
> Thus I rather feel thankful to the podlings and mentors that do find the
> time to maintain our records, and instead of casting blame would love to
> see us helping those that find the overhead too much.
We need to keep encouraging them to see the value for all,
by being interested in the management of their own project.
-David
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Re: First attempt at January2013 report template
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
1.1.2013 3.36 "David Crossley" <cr...@apache.org> kirjoitti:
> It all requires podlings to keep the project metadata up-to-date!
> Clutch can only use the data that it is fed. The poor state of
> the metadata has many ramifications.
>
> The main laggards are "graduated" projects.
>
> That behaviour will cause similar issues when they are TLPs.
True, though we should always remember that we are here primarily to write
great open source software and help others do so, not to maintain
impeccable project metadata.
The main beneficiaries of good podling metadata are the IPMC and the tools
we use to guide Incubator processes, while the podlings themselves gain
little direct value from updating Incubator records.
Thus I rather feel thankful to the podlings and mentors that do find the
time to maintain our records, and instead of casting blame would love to
see us helping those that find the overhead too much.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: First attempt at January2013 report template
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Benson Margulies wrote:
> <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Benson Margulies wrote:
> >>
> >> I've used my improved clutch2report.py tool to push a template for
> >> January 2013. It includes some extra bits to help me (or anyone else)
> >> notice missing signoffs and reports.
> >
> > I like these.
> >
> > Prior versions were sorted alphabetically by name.
>
> Well, *that* would be sensible. Please no one add any reports, I
> definitely want to fix that.
>
> >> Of course, it uses the clutch as of today.
> >>
> >> Would folks prefer that I wipe this out until closer to the event, or
> >> should I leave it?
> >
> > It should be changed to reflect other events like Photark retirement and Openmeetings delay. I'm not sure it matters if you do that in the wiki or with the script.
>
> that requires the clutch to be up to date. Note that OM isn't really graduated.
It all requires podlings to keep the project metadata up-to-date!
Clutch can only use the data that it is fed. The poor state of
the metadata has many ramifications.
The main laggards are "graduated" projects.
That behaviour will cause similar issues when they are TLPs.
-David
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Re: First attempt at January2013 report template
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
Fixed that. Some python months are zero-based, and others1-based.
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Tim Williams <wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmm... is that the right reporting group?
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/report-groups.txt
>
> Thanks,
> --tim
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Looks good.
>>
>> btw: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2013
>> On Dec 29, 2012 6:42 PM, "Benson Margulies" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Benson Margulies
>>> > <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>>> >> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> I like these templates.
>>> >>> Not sure if it is that important, but I always wanted to have some
>>> >>> kind of "table of content" which shows which projects are reporting. I
>>> >>> am usually only reading the reports of a few projects (except those i
>>> >>> am involved of course). Now as it is generated it might be just a
>>> >>> minor mod to your python. If not I still like the tool
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes. I can make a TOC go tick. No links, because the eventual board
>>> >> delivery is plain text.
>>> >
>>> > I would enjoy that very much, even without clickable links
>>>
>>> there is a TOC in the latest posted version.
>>>
>>> Keep those suggestions coming :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Cheers
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Benson Margulies
>>> >>> <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> Sort Order Is Repaired.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Benson Margulies <
>>> bimargulies@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Dec 29, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> I've used my improved clutch2report.py tool to push a template for
>>> >>>>>>> January 2013. It includes some extra bits to help me (or anyone
>>> else)
>>> >>>>>>> notice missing signoffs and reports.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I like these.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Prior versions were sorted alphabetically by name.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Well, *that* would be sensible. Please no one add any reports, I
>>> >>>>> definitely want to fix that.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Of course, it uses the clutch as of today.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Would folks prefer that I wipe this out until closer to the event,
>>> or
>>> >>>>>>> should I leave it?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> It should be changed to reflect other events like Photark
>>> retirement and Openmeetings delay. I'm not sure it matters if you do that
>>> in the wiki or with the script.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> that requires the clutch to be up to date. Note that OM isn't really
>>> graduated.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
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Re: First attempt at January2013 report template
Posted by Tim Williams <wi...@gmail.com>.
Hmm... is that the right reporting group?
http://incubator.apache.org/report-groups.txt
Thanks,
--tim
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks good.
>
> btw: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2013
> On Dec 29, 2012 6:42 PM, "Benson Margulies" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Benson Margulies
>> > <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>> >> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> I like these templates.
>> >>> Not sure if it is that important, but I always wanted to have some
>> >>> kind of "table of content" which shows which projects are reporting. I
>> >>> am usually only reading the reports of a few projects (except those i
>> >>> am involved of course). Now as it is generated it might be just a
>> >>> minor mod to your python. If not I still like the tool
>> >>
>> >> Yes. I can make a TOC go tick. No links, because the eventual board
>> >> delivery is plain text.
>> >
>> > I would enjoy that very much, even without clickable links
>>
>> there is a TOC in the latest posted version.
>>
>> Keep those suggestions coming :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Benson Margulies
>> >>> <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Sort Order Is Repaired.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Benson Margulies <
>> bimargulies@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Dec 29, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I've used my improved clutch2report.py tool to push a template for
>> >>>>>>> January 2013. It includes some extra bits to help me (or anyone
>> else)
>> >>>>>>> notice missing signoffs and reports.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I like these.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Prior versions were sorted alphabetically by name.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Well, *that* would be sensible. Please no one add any reports, I
>> >>>>> definitely want to fix that.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Of course, it uses the clutch as of today.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Would folks prefer that I wipe this out until closer to the event,
>> or
>> >>>>>>> should I leave it?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> It should be changed to reflect other events like Photark
>> retirement and Openmeetings delay. I'm not sure it matters if you do that
>> in the wiki or with the script.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> that requires the clutch to be up to date. Note that OM isn't really
>> graduated.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
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Re: First attempt at January2013 report template
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
Looks good.
btw: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2013
On Dec 29, 2012 6:42 PM, "Benson Margulies" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Christian Grobmeier
> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Benson Margulies
> > <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Christian Grobmeier
> >> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> I like these templates.
> >>> Not sure if it is that important, but I always wanted to have some
> >>> kind of "table of content" which shows which projects are reporting. I
> >>> am usually only reading the reports of a few projects (except those i
> >>> am involved of course). Now as it is generated it might be just a
> >>> minor mod to your python. If not I still like the tool
> >>
> >> Yes. I can make a TOC go tick. No links, because the eventual board
> >> delivery is plain text.
> >
> > I would enjoy that very much, even without clickable links
>
> there is a TOC in the latest posted version.
>
> Keep those suggestions coming :-)
>
>
>
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Benson Margulies
> >>> <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Sort Order Is Repaired.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Benson Margulies <
> bimargulies@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Dec 29, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've used my improved clutch2report.py tool to push a template for
> >>>>>>> January 2013. It includes some extra bits to help me (or anyone
> else)
> >>>>>>> notice missing signoffs and reports.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I like these.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Prior versions were sorted alphabetically by name.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well, *that* would be sensible. Please no one add any reports, I
> >>>>> definitely want to fix that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Of course, it uses the clutch as of today.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Would folks prefer that I wipe this out until closer to the event,
> or
> >>>>>>> should I leave it?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It should be changed to reflect other events like Photark
> retirement and Openmeetings delay. I'm not sure it matters if you do that
> in the wiki or with the script.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> that requires the clutch to be up to date. Note that OM isn't really
> graduated.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: First attempt at January2013 report template
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 29 December 2012 23:42, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Christian Grobmeier
> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Benson Margulies
>> <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I like these templates.
>>>> Not sure if it is that important, but I always wanted to have some
>>>> kind of "table of content" which shows which projects are reporting. I
>>>> am usually only reading the reports of a few projects (except those i
>>>> am involved of course). Now as it is generated it might be just a
>>>> minor mod to your python. If not I still like the tool
>>>
>>> Yes. I can make a TOC go tick. No links, because the eventual board
>>> delivery is plain text.
>>
>> I would enjoy that very much, even without clickable links
>
> there is a TOC in the latest posted version.
>
> Keep those suggestions coming :-)
>
There is a list of podlings grouped by Shepherd.
Might also be useful to show the Shepherd against each podling, e.g.
in the TOC list or in the "Shepherd notes:" heading.
Or both - TOC entry would show if there are any missing shepherds, and
note section would show who wrote the notes.
>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Benson Margulies
>>>> <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Sort Order Is Repaired.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've used my improved clutch2report.py tool to push a template for
>>>>>>>> January 2013. It includes some extra bits to help me (or anyone else)
>>>>>>>> notice missing signoffs and reports.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like these.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Prior versions were sorted alphabetically by name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, *that* would be sensible. Please no one add any reports, I
>>>>>> definitely want to fix that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course, it uses the clutch as of today.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would folks prefer that I wipe this out until closer to the event, or
>>>>>>>> should I leave it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It should be changed to reflect other events like Photark retirement and Openmeetings delay. I'm not sure it matters if you do that in the wiki or with the script.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that requires the clutch to be up to date. Note that OM isn't really graduated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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Re: First attempt at January2013 report template
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Christian Grobmeier
<gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Benson Margulies
> <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I like these templates.
>>> Not sure if it is that important, but I always wanted to have some
>>> kind of "table of content" which shows which projects are reporting. I
>>> am usually only reading the reports of a few projects (except those i
>>> am involved of course). Now as it is generated it might be just a
>>> minor mod to your python. If not I still like the tool
>>
>> Yes. I can make a TOC go tick. No links, because the eventual board
>> delivery is plain text.
>
> I would enjoy that very much, even without clickable links
there is a TOC in the latest posted version.
Keep those suggestions coming :-)
>
> Thanks!
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Benson Margulies
>>> <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Sort Order Is Repaired.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've used my improved clutch2report.py tool to push a template for
>>>>>>> January 2013. It includes some extra bits to help me (or anyone else)
>>>>>>> notice missing signoffs and reports.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like these.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prior versions were sorted alphabetically by name.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, *that* would be sensible. Please no one add any reports, I
>>>>> definitely want to fix that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course, it uses the clutch as of today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would folks prefer that I wipe this out until closer to the event, or
>>>>>>> should I leave it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It should be changed to reflect other events like Photark retirement and Openmeetings delay. I'm not sure it matters if you do that in the wiki or with the script.
>>>>>
>>>>> that requires the clutch to be up to date. Note that OM isn't really graduated.
>>>>>
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Re: First attempt at January2013 report template
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Benson Margulies
<bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Christian Grobmeier
> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I like these templates.
>> Not sure if it is that important, but I always wanted to have some
>> kind of "table of content" which shows which projects are reporting. I
>> am usually only reading the reports of a few projects (except those i
>> am involved of course). Now as it is generated it might be just a
>> minor mod to your python. If not I still like the tool
>
> Yes. I can make a TOC go tick. No links, because the eventual board
> delivery is plain text.
I would enjoy that very much, even without clickable links
Thanks!
>
>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Benson Margulies
>> <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Sort Order Is Repaired.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 29, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've used my improved clutch2report.py tool to push a template for
>>>>>> January 2013. It includes some extra bits to help me (or anyone else)
>>>>>> notice missing signoffs and reports.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like these.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prior versions were sorted alphabetically by name.
>>>>
>>>> Well, *that* would be sensible. Please no one add any reports, I
>>>> definitely want to fix that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, it uses the clutch as of today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would folks prefer that I wipe this out until closer to the event, or
>>>>>> should I leave it?
>>>>>
>>>>> It should be changed to reflect other events like Photark retirement and Openmeetings delay. I'm not sure it matters if you do that in the wiki or with the script.
>>>>
>>>> that requires the clutch to be up to date. Note that OM isn't really graduated.
>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: First attempt at January2013 report template
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Christian Grobmeier
<gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I like these templates.
> Not sure if it is that important, but I always wanted to have some
> kind of "table of content" which shows which projects are reporting. I
> am usually only reading the reports of a few projects (except those i
> am involved of course). Now as it is generated it might be just a
> minor mod to your python. If not I still like the tool
Yes. I can make a TOC go tick. No links, because the eventual board
delivery is plain text.
>
> Cheers
>
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Benson Margulies
> <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sort Order Is Repaired.
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 29, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've used my improved clutch2report.py tool to push a template for
>>>>> January 2013. It includes some extra bits to help me (or anyone else)
>>>>> notice missing signoffs and reports.
>>>>
>>>> I like these.
>>>>
>>>> Prior versions were sorted alphabetically by name.
>>>
>>> Well, *that* would be sensible. Please no one add any reports, I
>>> definitely want to fix that.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, it uses the clutch as of today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would folks prefer that I wipe this out until closer to the event, or
>>>>> should I leave it?
>>>>
>>>> It should be changed to reflect other events like Photark retirement and Openmeetings delay. I'm not sure it matters if you do that in the wiki or with the script.
>>>
>>> that requires the clutch to be up to date. Note that OM isn't really graduated.
>>>
>>>>
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Re: First attempt at January2013 report template
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
I like these templates.
Not sure if it is that important, but I always wanted to have some
kind of "table of content" which shows which projects are reporting. I
am usually only reading the reports of a few projects (except those i
am involved of course). Now as it is generated it might be just a
minor mod to your python. If not I still like the tool
Cheers
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Benson Margulies
<bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sort Order Is Repaired.
>
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Dec 29, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've used my improved clutch2report.py tool to push a template for
>>>> January 2013. It includes some extra bits to help me (or anyone else)
>>>> notice missing signoffs and reports.
>>>
>>> I like these.
>>>
>>> Prior versions were sorted alphabetically by name.
>>
>> Well, *that* would be sensible. Please no one add any reports, I
>> definitely want to fix that.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Of course, it uses the clutch as of today.
>>>>
>>>> Would folks prefer that I wipe this out until closer to the event, or
>>>> should I leave it?
>>>
>>> It should be changed to reflect other events like Photark retirement and Openmeetings delay. I'm not sure it matters if you do that in the wiki or with the script.
>>
>> that requires the clutch to be up to date. Note that OM isn't really graduated.
>>
>>>
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Re: First attempt at January2013 report template
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
Sort Order Is Repaired.
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>>
>>> I've used my improved clutch2report.py tool to push a template for
>>> January 2013. It includes some extra bits to help me (or anyone else)
>>> notice missing signoffs and reports.
>>
>> I like these.
>>
>> Prior versions were sorted alphabetically by name.
>
> Well, *that* would be sensible. Please no one add any reports, I
> definitely want to fix that.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> Of course, it uses the clutch as of today.
>>>
>>> Would folks prefer that I wipe this out until closer to the event, or
>>> should I leave it?
>>
>> It should be changed to reflect other events like Photark retirement and Openmeetings delay. I'm not sure it matters if you do that in the wiki or with the script.
>
> that requires the clutch to be up to date. Note that OM isn't really graduated.
>
>>
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Re: First attempt at January2013 report template
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On Dec 29, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>
>> I've used my improved clutch2report.py tool to push a template for
>> January 2013. It includes some extra bits to help me (or anyone else)
>> notice missing signoffs and reports.
>
> I like these.
>
> Prior versions were sorted alphabetically by name.
Well, *that* would be sensible. Please no one add any reports, I
definitely want to fix that.
>
>>
>> Of course, it uses the clutch as of today.
>>
>> Would folks prefer that I wipe this out until closer to the event, or
>> should I leave it?
>
> It should be changed to reflect other events like Photark retirement and Openmeetings delay. I'm not sure it matters if you do that in the wiki or with the script.
that requires the clutch to be up to date. Note that OM isn't really graduated.
>
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Re: First attempt at January2013 report template
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Dec 29, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> I've used my improved clutch2report.py tool to push a template for
> January 2013. It includes some extra bits to help me (or anyone else)
> notice missing signoffs and reports.
I like these.
Prior versions were sorted alphabetically by name.
>
> Of course, it uses the clutch as of today.
>
> Would folks prefer that I wipe this out until closer to the event, or
> should I leave it?
It should be changed to reflect other events like Photark retirement and Openmeetings delay. I'm not sure it matters if you do that in the wiki or with the script.
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Re: First attempt at January2013 report template
Posted by Alan Cabrera <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
On Dec 29, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> I've used my improved clutch2report.py tool to push a template for
> January 2013. It includes some extra bits to help me (or anyone else)
> notice missing signoffs and reports.
>
> Of course, it uses the clutch as of today.
>
> Would folks prefer that I wipe this out until closer to the event, or
> should I leave it?
Chukwa's mentor list was incorrect. I updated it.
Regards,
Alan
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