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Posted to fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org by Simon Pepping <sp...@leverkruid.eu> on 2010/07/13 19:32:18 UTC

Re: Press Release [was: [VOTE] Release files for fop 1.0]

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 04:04:23PM +0200, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> BTW, I've contacted Sally Khudairi (VP, Marketing and Publicity) to talk
> about creating a press release that puts the 1.0 release in the right
> light. It's a critical release press-wise, so I'd like to get this right.
> Not that some people expect too much. Too bad OpenSSL beat us to the 1.0
> release by about 3 months. ;-)

I propose some modifications of your short description. You wrote:

Apache FOP (Formatting Objects Processor) is a print formatter driven
by XSL formatting objects (XSL-FO by W3C). It is a Java application
that reads a formatting object (FO) tree and renders the resulting
pages to a specified output. Output formats currently supported
include PDF, PostScript, PCL, AFP and other formats. So, usually you
start with an XML file which you turn into XSL-FO describing a text
document by means of XSLT (eXtensible stylesheet language
transformations, which is the sister spec to XSL-FO).  Apache FOP then
takes that XSL-FO, formats the document and produces one of the
supported output formats (ex. PDF). It is used to produce invoices,
insurance policies, technical documentation etc. etc. Millions of
pages are produced every year by a pretty large user community around
the world.

I would like to stress the position of XSL-FO and FOP in the XML tool
chain. I also made some other smaller changes. I propose:

Apache FOP (Formatting Objects Processor) fills one slot in the chain
of XML tools: XML (e.g. Apache Xerces for parsing), XSLT (e.g. Apache
Xalan), XSL-FO (e.g. Apache FOP). XSL-FO provides print formatting of
XML files, where the XSL-FO file (the format specification) may be
created using an XSLT transformation of the XML file.

Apache FOP fulfills its role by being a print formatter driven by XSL
formatting objects. It is a Java application that reads a formatting
object (FO) tree and renders the resulting pages to the specified
output. Output formats currently supported include PDF, PostScript,
PCL, AFP and other formats.

Usually one starts with an XML file which is turned into an XSL-FO
description of the desired printed document by means of XSLT
(eXtensible stylesheet language transformations, which is the sister
spec to XSL-FO).  Apache FOP then takes that XSL-FO, formats the
specified document and produces it in one of the supported output
formats (e.g. PDF).  Apache FOP is used at to produce invoices,
insurance policies, technical documentation etc., both at enterprise
level and at personal level. Millions of pages are produced every year
by a large user community around the world. The docbook community is
an important part of the user community.

Simon

-- 
Simon Pepping
home page: http://www.leverkruid.eu

Re: FOP description [was: P*r*s* R*l*a*e]

Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
On 14.07.2010 10:24:08 Simon Pepping wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 09:03:53PM +0200, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> > Simon,
> > thanks for helping out but that's exactly what Sally didn't want:
> > talking about this in the open especially with the "press release" in
> > the subject. Please keep this on private@ for now.
> 
> Sorry for that. I put the short description of FOP to public
> discussion, and I believe that that is the right way to discuss how we
> wish to describe ourselves to the world.

That's the usual way, yes. Discussing a project description in public is
not bad, but please not with the "press release" in the subject. The
actual press release should be developed on private@ so we only publish
the final version on public lists.

It's just that some Apache projects have been misrepresented in the news
possibly because someone didn't have/gather the right information bits.
I wouldn't like to see bad press on FOP because we didn't make it very
clear what people can expect from the 1.0 release and why we made a 1.0
now.

I've already found a note on the net where someone says that 1.0 has
been released which is not the case.

<snip/>



Jeremias Maerki


Re: FOP description [was: P*r*s* R*l*a*e]

Posted by Simon Pepping <sp...@leverkruid.eu>.
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 09:03:53PM +0200, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> Simon,
> thanks for helping out but that's exactly what Sally didn't want:
> talking about this in the open especially with the "press release" in
> the subject. Please keep this on private@ for now.

Sorry for that. I put the short description of FOP to public
discussion, and I believe that that is the right way to discuss how we
wish to describe ourselves to the world.
 
> To anyone press-related listening in: this is WORK IN PROGRESS and not
> ready to be published!!! We'll make a public announcement when the
> release is ready.
> 
> On 13.07.2010 19:32:18 Simon Pepping wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 04:04:23PM +0200, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> > > BTW, I've contacted Sally Khudairi (VP, Marketing and Publicity) to talk
> > > about creating a press release that puts the 1.0 release in the right
> > > light. It's a critical release press-wise, so I'd like to get this right.
> > > Not that some people expect too much. Too bad OpenSSL beat us to the 1.0
> > > release by about 3 months. ;-)
> > 
> > I propose some modifications of your short description. You wrote:

Simon

-- 
Simon Pepping
home page: http://www.leverkruid.eu

Re: P*r*s* R*l*a*e [was: [VOTE] Release files for fop 1.0]

Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
Simon,
thanks for helping out but that's exactly what Sally didn't want:
talking about this in the open especially with the "press release" in
the subject. Please keep this on private@ for now.

To anyone press-related listening in: this is WORK IN PROGRESS and not
ready to be published!!! We'll make a public announcement when the
release is ready.

On 13.07.2010 19:32:18 Simon Pepping wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 04:04:23PM +0200, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> > BTW, I've contacted Sally Khudairi (VP, Marketing and Publicity) to talk
> > about creating a press release that puts the 1.0 release in the right
> > light. It's a critical release press-wise, so I'd like to get this right.
> > Not that some people expect too much. Too bad OpenSSL beat us to the 1.0
> > release by about 3 months. ;-)
> 
> I propose some modifications of your short description. You wrote:

<snip/>



Jeremias Maerki