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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> on 2012/09/17 07:04:13 UTC

Re: Java 7

Finally it's a WIP, we have already Builbot builds for all releases, we still miss to run tests, but this should be done soon also

Jacques

From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
> At the moment (and actually at any moment ;o), I don't think infra has the resources for this kind of demand...
> 
> Did someone test locally? Could someone install a CI for it on its own?
> 
> Jacques
> 
> Sam Hamilton wrote:
>> +1 on making sure that OFBiz runs without problems on Java 7 before trying to add any new features that means it only runs on
>> Java 7. 
>> 
>> Is it worth asking infra to setup buildbot, demo system etc up for testing against both 6 & 7?
>> 
>> Also wondering if there is any rule of thumb about when the new Java release become stable enough for production, like Tomcat is
>> +6 months? 
>> 
>> 
>> Sam
>> 
>> On 5 Oct 2011, at 20:34, David Goodenough wrote:
>> 
>>> OpenJDK IS the official JDK this time around.  So while a particular
>>> platform may not be built/completed yet, its open source so anyone
>>> can contribute.
>>> 
>>> On the timing, I would suggest that making sure that ofbiz is
>>> Java 7 tolerant is the first priority, then when you want new
>>> features think about whether you can justify locking users of the
>>> old Java 6 out of ofbiz.  Unfortunately some enterprises are very
>>> slow to move - and forcing people to move is what MS are always
>>> accused of.
>>> 
>>> David
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday 05 Oct 2011, Scott Gray wrote:
>>>> You can't even get Java 7 for OSX currently (and no I'm not talking
>>>> OpenJDK), as far as I can tell it's not expected until sometime in 2012.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/10/2011, at 12:47 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>> It seems to me that standard support (not payable) for Java 6 bug fixes
>>>>> is ending in July 2012, a bit more than 8 months...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: "Ashish Vijaywargiya" <vi...@gmail.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When is the EOL for java 6?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html
>>>>>> <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html>-- One table
>>>>>> inside "Java SE Support Roadmap" is saying "Jul 2012" as EOL for Java
>>>>>> 6. -- Another table inside "Java for Business Support Roadmap" is
>>>>>> saying "Dec 2016" as EOL for Java 6.
>>>>>> I think for now and more then one year we can keep continuing to support
>>>>>> Java 6 for all development and production deployments purpose.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ashish
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Scott Gray
>>> <sc...@hotwaxmedia.com>wrote:
>>>>>>> -1
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When is the EOL for java 6?  What is the rush? By switching to Java 7
>>>>>>> you are telling everyone who wants to use the latest OFBiz that they
>>>>>>> MUST use Java 7, there needs to be a good reason for that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 5/10/2011, at 9:26 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>>>>>>> Since, with java.nio.file, most important changes introduced by Java
>>>>>>>> 7
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> are syntactic sugar (Coin project), I was more thinking about
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> a continued effort, not limited in time, hence no need for a branch.
>>>>>>>> It would just require a decision and to turn OFBiz development to
>>>>>>>> Java 7.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But of course this is a community choice and we need neeed more people
>>>>>>> interested before taking any decision...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history#Java_SE_7_.28July_28.
>>>>>>> 2C_2011.29
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: "Sascha Rodekamp" <sa...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> +1 for java 7
>>>>>>>>> But i think when updating the java version there are some parts of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> we can improve with the new java features. I.e the try catch with
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> resources
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> or the new diamond operator for generics ...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So why not creating a jira ticket and a separate branch, do some
>>>>>>>>> changes testing everything properly and merge back.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Have a good day
>>>>>>>>> Sascha
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 2011/10/4 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As soon as we change things maybe. Not even sure it's really
>>>>>>>>>> needed, at least last updated were done in trunk. Java 7 does not
>>>>>>>>>> introduce much changes anyway...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> From: "BJ Freeman" <bj...@free-man.net>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I think a branch would be appropriate
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 10/3/2011 3:50 AM:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> One day or another we will have to move to Java 7, I believe.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/**r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-**7.html<
>>>>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/ui/r3_8/Java7news/whats-new-java-7.html>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Opinions?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sascha Rodekamp
>>>>>>>>> 
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