RIA solution based on wicket

[Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>]

Hi guys;

I would like to get your opinions and also share some of my views. I have
been test-driving wicket for a couple of weeks now and i found it quite
impressive. However , i would like to say that IMHO wicket is more suitable
for creating websites as opposed to RIA applications. I would like to make
applications that look and feel like desktop applications but running on a
browser, i have a solid GWT background and i used to make this kind of
applications but alot of work is involved. Should we not have a ria
framework based on wicket? It could just be some nice CSS based theme or an
intergration with something like extJs or something like this. WiQuery is a
great step in this direction but it lacks components for making the main
application layout.

In the meantime, i will be trying out Vaadin.

Regards.

Re: RIA solution based on wicket

[Riyad Kalla <rk...@gmail.com>]

Great idea -- probably just boils down to a time/resource issue more than
anything.

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi guys;
>
> I would like to get your opinions and also share some of my views. I have
> been test-driving wicket for a couple of weeks now and i found it quite
> impressive. However , i would like to say that IMHO wicket is more suitable
> for creating websites as opposed to RIA applications. I would like to make
> applications that look and feel like desktop applications but running on a
> browser, i have a solid GWT background and i used to make this kind of
> applications but alot of work is involved. Should we not have a ria
> framework based on wicket? It could just be some nice CSS based theme or an
> intergration with something like extJs or something like this. WiQuery is a
> great step in this direction but it lacks components for making the main
> application layout.
>
> In the meantime, i will be trying out Vaadin.
>
> Regards.
>

Re: RIA solution based on wicket

[nino martinez wael <ni...@gmail.com>]

Sure.. This was just a heads up...

2010/2/2 Cemal Bayramoglu <jW...@cabouge.com>

> Ninio,
>
> At a quick glance, these also work fine for me, but you're probably
> safest to use the links I gave in my post above (the project is hosted
> at Google Code, use the SVN there). You may need to change any WiQuery
> dependencies to refer version 1.0 in your POMs as they wrote the
> original sample for 1.0-m2.
> Of course, if you do find issues, please go ahead and raise them on
> the correct issues page [1] so someone can take a look, but give a bit
> of detail to help the developer replicate your issue.
>
> Regards - Cemal
> jWeekend
> OO & Java Technologies, Wicket
> Consulting, Development, Training
> http://jWeekend.com
>
> [1] http://code.google.com/p/wiquery/issues/list
>
>
> On 2 February 2010 10:54, nino martinez wael
> <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Cemal I expirience alot of bugs running the examples, from here
> > http://www.wiquery.org/wiquery-examples-1.0/  permgen error :/
> >
> > 2010/2/1 Cemal Bayramoglu <jW...@cabouge.com>
> >>
> >> Josh,
> >>
> >> Did you run the demos available at the WiQuery site [1]?
> >> odlabs' "Agile Task Lists" demo [2] uses some layout mechanism if I
> >> remember correctly.
> >> If you have concrete ideas on how to extend the way WiQuery (and
> >> jQuery) supports this, we are very open to suggestions. We are also
> >> discussing setting up a WiQuery plugins project where ideas like this
> >> can evolve/incubate and be considered for inclusion in the core once
> >> they are evaluated.
> >> Interestingly, some people complain that UI presentation should be
> >> done in a declarative way (eg in XUL like languages) and not in a
> >> procedural way, so they may consider specifying layout in Java code
> >> (rather than in Wicket's native XHTML & CSS way) a step in a strange
> >> direction.
> >>
> >> Regards - Cemal
> >> jWeekend
> >> OO & Java Technologies, Wicket
> >> Consulting, Development, Training
> >> http://jWeekend.com
> >>
> >> [1] http://wiquery.googlecode.com
> >> [2]
> >>
> http://wiquery.googlecode.com/svn/examples/wiquery-presentation-examples/
> >>
> >> On 1 February 2010 05:28, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi guys;
> >> >
> >> > I would like to get your opinions and also share some of my views. I
> >> > have
> >> > been test-driving wicket for a couple of weeks now and i found it
> quite
> >> > impressive. However , i would like to say that IMHO wicket is more
> >> > suitable
> >> > for creating websites as opposed to RIA applications. I would like to
> >> > make
> >> > applications that look and feel like desktop applications but running
> on
> >> > a
> >> > browser, i have a solid GWT background and i used to make this kind of
> >> > applications but alot of work is involved. Should we not have a ria
> >> > framework based on wicket? It could just be some nice CSS based theme
> or
> >> > an
> >> > intergration with something like extJs or something like this. WiQuery
> >> > is a
> >> > great step in this direction but it lacks components for making the
> main
> >> > application layout.
> >> >
> >> > In the meantime, i will be trying out Vaadin.
> >> >
> >> > Regards.
> >> >
> >>
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Re: RIA solution based on wicket

[Cemal Bayramoglu <jW...@cabouge.com>]

Ninio,

At a quick glance, these also work fine for me, but you're probably
safest to use the links I gave in my post above (the project is hosted
at Google Code, use the SVN there). You may need to change any WiQuery
dependencies to refer version 1.0 in your POMs as they wrote the
original sample for 1.0-m2.
Of course, if you do find issues, please go ahead and raise them on
the correct issues page [1] so someone can take a look, but give a bit
of detail to help the developer replicate your issue.

Regards - Cemal
jWeekend
OO & Java Technologies, Wicket
Consulting, Development, Training
http://jWeekend.com

[1] http://code.google.com/p/wiquery/issues/list


On 2 February 2010 10:54, nino martinez wael
<ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Cemal I expirience alot of bugs running the examples, from here
> http://www.wiquery.org/wiquery-examples-1.0/  permgen error :/
>
> 2010/2/1 Cemal Bayramoglu <jW...@cabouge.com>
>>
>> Josh,
>>
>> Did you run the demos available at the WiQuery site [1]?
>> odlabs' "Agile Task Lists" demo [2] uses some layout mechanism if I
>> remember correctly.
>> If you have concrete ideas on how to extend the way WiQuery (and
>> jQuery) supports this, we are very open to suggestions. We are also
>> discussing setting up a WiQuery plugins project where ideas like this
>> can evolve/incubate and be considered for inclusion in the core once
>> they are evaluated.
>> Interestingly, some people complain that UI presentation should be
>> done in a declarative way (eg in XUL like languages) and not in a
>> procedural way, so they may consider specifying layout in Java code
>> (rather than in Wicket's native XHTML & CSS way) a step in a strange
>> direction.
>>
>> Regards - Cemal
>> jWeekend
>> OO & Java Technologies, Wicket
>> Consulting, Development, Training
>> http://jWeekend.com
>>
>> [1] http://wiquery.googlecode.com
>> [2]
>> http://wiquery.googlecode.com/svn/examples/wiquery-presentation-examples/
>>
>> On 1 February 2010 05:28, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi guys;
>> >
>> > I would like to get your opinions and also share some of my views. I
>> > have
>> > been test-driving wicket for a couple of weeks now and i found it quite
>> > impressive. However , i would like to say that IMHO wicket is more
>> > suitable
>> > for creating websites as opposed to RIA applications. I would like to
>> > make
>> > applications that look and feel like desktop applications but running on
>> > a
>> > browser, i have a solid GWT background and i used to make this kind of
>> > applications but alot of work is involved. Should we not have a ria
>> > framework based on wicket? It could just be some nice CSS based theme or
>> > an
>> > intergration with something like extJs or something like this. WiQuery
>> > is a
>> > great step in this direction but it lacks components for making the main
>> > application layout.
>> >
>> > In the meantime, i will be trying out Vaadin.
>> >
>> > Regards.
>> >
>>
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Re: RIA solution based on wicket

[nino martinez wael <ni...@gmail.com>]

Cemal I expirience alot of bugs running the examples, from here
http://www.wiquery.org/wiquery-examples-1.0/  permgen error :/

2010/2/1 Cemal Bayramoglu <jW...@cabouge.com>

> Josh,
>
> Did you run the demos available at the WiQuery site [1]?
> odlabs' "Agile Task Lists" demo [2] uses some layout mechanism if I
> remember correctly.
> If you have concrete ideas on how to extend the way WiQuery (and
> jQuery) supports this, we are very open to suggestions. We are also
> discussing setting up a WiQuery plugins project where ideas like this
> can evolve/incubate and be considered for inclusion in the core once
> they are evaluated.
> Interestingly, some people complain that UI presentation should be
> done in a declarative way (eg in XUL like languages) and not in a
> procedural way, so they may consider specifying layout in Java code
> (rather than in Wicket's native XHTML & CSS way) a step in a strange
> direction.
>
> Regards - Cemal
> jWeekend
> OO & Java Technologies, Wicket
> Consulting, Development, Training
> http://jWeekend.com
>
> [1] http://wiquery.googlecode.com
> [2]
> http://wiquery.googlecode.com/svn/examples/wiquery-presentation-examples/
>
> On 1 February 2010 05:28, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi guys;
> >
> > I would like to get your opinions and also share some of my views. I have
> > been test-driving wicket for a couple of weeks now and i found it quite
> > impressive. However , i would like to say that IMHO wicket is more
> suitable
> > for creating websites as opposed to RIA applications. I would like to
> make
> > applications that look and feel like desktop applications but running on
> a
> > browser, i have a solid GWT background and i used to make this kind of
> > applications but alot of work is involved. Should we not have a ria
> > framework based on wicket? It could just be some nice CSS based theme or
> an
> > intergration with something like extJs or something like this. WiQuery is
> a
> > great step in this direction but it lacks components for making the main
> > application layout.
> >
> > In the meantime, i will be trying out Vaadin.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
>
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Re: RIA solution based on wicket

[Cemal Bayramoglu <jW...@cabouge.com>]

Josh,

Did you run the demos available at the WiQuery site [1]?
odlabs' "Agile Task Lists" demo [2] uses some layout mechanism if I
remember correctly.
If you have concrete ideas on how to extend the way WiQuery (and
jQuery) supports this, we are very open to suggestions. We are also
discussing setting up a WiQuery plugins project where ideas like this
can evolve/incubate and be considered for inclusion in the core once
they are evaluated.
Interestingly, some people complain that UI presentation should be
done in a declarative way (eg in XUL like languages) and not in a
procedural way, so they may consider specifying layout in Java code
(rather than in Wicket's native XHTML & CSS way) a step in a strange
direction.

Regards - Cemal
jWeekend
OO & Java Technologies, Wicket
Consulting, Development, Training
http://jWeekend.com

[1] http://wiquery.googlecode.com
[2] http://wiquery.googlecode.com/svn/examples/wiquery-presentation-examples/

On 1 February 2010 05:28, Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys;
>
> I would like to get your opinions and also share some of my views. I have
> been test-driving wicket for a couple of weeks now and i found it quite
> impressive. However , i would like to say that IMHO wicket is more suitable
> for creating websites as opposed to RIA applications. I would like to make
> applications that look and feel like desktop applications but running on a
> browser, i have a solid GWT background and i used to make this kind of
> applications but alot of work is involved. Should we not have a ria
> framework based on wicket? It could just be some nice CSS based theme or an
> intergration with something like extJs or something like this. WiQuery is a
> great step in this direction but it lacks components for making the main
> application layout.
>
> In the meantime, i will be trying out Vaadin.
>
> Regards.
>

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Re: RIA solution based on wicket

[Martin Grigorov <mg...@apache.org>]

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Entropy <bl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That looks pretty good.  I too am attempting to build a RIA with ExtJS using
> Wicket as my back-end.  On first look it seems like the two should be a
> great fit as both rely heavily on building a hierarchical tree of
> components.  If I could build a set of custom wicket components to output
> javascript instead of HTML, my java developers could snap components
> together without having to fiddle with the complexity of ExtJS on a regular
> basis.
>
> But I am having a problem in that wicket wants markup for things that I want
> ext to build through javascript methods.  For example, right now I am trying
> to build my menu.  Wicket wants me to use a Link based class or button, but
> I really just want to output some javascript that will create the menu
> toolbar and component and snap them into the viewport.
>
> I am using a JavascriptPackageresource to create a HeaderContributor in the
> top level object, and scanning my child components for my custom components
> to contribute javascript at the right time.  But things like Links, Buttons,
> and other data elements are going to want to contribute HTML.  Further, I
> want to tie an even handler to my menu item, and not generate HTML, but
> still have the link URL the link would have generated.
Assign WebMarkupContainer to a plain <span> (the menu item), then
assign a Behavior to that component and use its
#renderHead(IHeaderResponse) to render any JavaScript you need.
For example ExtPanelBehavior may produce the JS needed to create ExtJS Panel...
>
> How can I approach this?  Is Wicket maybe not the right webapp framework for
> me?
>
>
> Martin Grigorov wrote:
>>
>> you could
>> http://wicketstuff.org/grid-examples/data-grid/editable
>>
>> On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 15:16 +0300, Josh Kamau wrote:
>>> Hi Ernesto
>>>
>>> This is RIA enough. I wish i could do such with Wicket.
>>>
>>> http://www.extjs.com/examples/#roweditorgrid
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro <
>>> reiern70@> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > impressive. However , i would like to say that IMHO wicket is more
>>> suitable
>>> > > for creating websites as opposed to RIA applications. I would like to
>>> > make
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > Is this screen shot "RIA enough" for your taste?
>>> >
>>> > http://antilia.googlecode.com/svn/wiki/Screenshot1.jpg
>>> >
>>> > It was made using Wicket;-)
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> >
>>> > Ernesto
>>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: RIA solution based on wicket

[Entropy <bl...@gmail.com>]

That looks pretty good.  I too am attempting to build a RIA with ExtJS using
Wicket as my back-end.  On first look it seems like the two should be a
great fit as both rely heavily on building a hierarchical tree of
components.  If I could build a set of custom wicket components to output
javascript instead of HTML, my java developers could snap components
together without having to fiddle with the complexity of ExtJS on a regular
basis.

But I am having a problem in that wicket wants markup for things that I want
ext to build through javascript methods.  For example, right now I am trying
to build my menu.  Wicket wants me to use a Link based class or button, but
I really just want to output some javascript that will create the menu
toolbar and component and snap them into the viewport.

I am using a JavascriptPackageresource to create a HeaderContributor in the
top level object, and scanning my child components for my custom components
to contribute javascript at the right time.  But things like Links, Buttons,
and other data elements are going to want to contribute HTML.  Further, I
want to tie an even handler to my menu item, and not generate HTML, but
still have the link URL the link would have generated.

How can I approach this?  Is Wicket maybe not the right webapp framework for
me?


Martin Grigorov wrote:
> 
> you could
> http://wicketstuff.org/grid-examples/data-grid/editable
> 
> On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 15:16 +0300, Josh Kamau wrote:
>> Hi Ernesto
>> 
>> This is RIA enough. I wish i could do such with Wicket.
>> 
>> http://www.extjs.com/examples/#roweditorgrid
>> 
>> regards
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro <
>> reiern70@> wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > impressive. However , i would like to say that IMHO wicket is more
>> suitable
>> > > for creating websites as opposed to RIA applications. I would like to
>> > make
>> > >
>> >
>> > Is this screen shot "RIA enough" for your taste?
>> >
>> > http://antilia.googlecode.com/svn/wiki/Screenshot1.jpg
>> >
>> > It was made using Wicket;-)
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Ernesto
>> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: RIA solution based on wicket

[Entropy <bl...@gmail.com>]

That looks pretty good.  I too am attempting to build a RIA with ExtJS using
Wicket as my back-end.  On first look it seems like the two should be a
great fit as both rely heavily on building a hierarchical tree of
components.  If I could build a set of custom wicket components to output
javascript instead of HTML, my java developers could snap components
together without having to fiddle with the complexity of ExtJS on a regular
basis.

But I am having a problem in that wicket wants markup for things that I want
ext to build through javascript methods.  For example, right now I am trying
to build my menu.  Wicket wants me to use a Link based class or button, but
I really just want to output some javascript that will create the menu
toolbar and component and snap them into the viewport.

I am using a JavascriptPackageresource to create a HeaderContributor in the
top level object, and scanning my child components for my custom components
to contribute javascript at the right time.  But things like Links, Buttons,
and other data elements are going to want to contribute HTML.  Further, I
want to tie an even handler to my menu item, and not generate HTML, but
still have the link URL the link would have generated.

How can I approach this?  Is Wicket maybe not the right webapp framework for
me?


Martin Grigorov wrote:
> 
> you could
> http://wicketstuff.org/grid-examples/data-grid/editable
> 
> On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 15:16 +0300, Josh Kamau wrote:
>> Hi Ernesto
>> 
>> This is RIA enough. I wish i could do such with Wicket.
>> 
>> http://www.extjs.com/examples/#roweditorgrid
>> 
>> regards
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro <
>> reiern70@> wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > impressive. However , i would like to say that IMHO wicket is more
>> suitable
>> > > for creating websites as opposed to RIA applications. I would like to
>> > make
>> > >
>> >
>> > Is this screen shot "RIA enough" for your taste?
>> >
>> > http://antilia.googlecode.com/svn/wiki/Screenshot1.jpg
>> >
>> > It was made using Wicket;-)
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Ernesto
>> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: RIA solution based on wicket

[Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>]

The grid looks wonderful.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Martin Grigorov <mc...@e-card.bg> wrote:

> you could
> http://wicketstuff.org/grid-examples/data-grid/editable
>
> On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 15:16 +0300, Josh Kamau wrote:
> > Hi Ernesto
> >
> > This is RIA enough. I wish i could do such with Wicket.
> >
> > http://www.extjs.com/examples/#roweditorgrid
> >
> > regards
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro <
> > reiern70@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > impressive. However , i would like to say that IMHO wicket is more
> suitable
> > > > for creating websites as opposed to RIA applications. I would like to
> > > make
> > > >
> > >
> > > Is this screen shot "RIA enough" for your taste?
> > >
> > > http://antilia.googlecode.com/svn/wiki/Screenshot1.jpg
> > >
> > > It was made using Wicket;-)
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Ernesto
> > >
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: RIA solution based on wicket

[Martin Grigorov <mc...@e-card.bg>]

you could
http://wicketstuff.org/grid-examples/data-grid/editable

On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 15:16 +0300, Josh Kamau wrote:
> Hi Ernesto
> 
> This is RIA enough. I wish i could do such with Wicket.
> 
> http://www.extjs.com/examples/#roweditorgrid
> 
> regards
> 
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro <
> reiern70@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > impressive. However , i would like to say that IMHO wicket is more suitable
> > > for creating websites as opposed to RIA applications. I would like to
> > make
> > >
> >
> > Is this screen shot "RIA enough" for your taste?
> >
> > http://antilia.googlecode.com/svn/wiki/Screenshot1.jpg
> >
> > It was made using Wicket;-)
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Ernesto
> >





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Re: RIA solution based on wicket

[Josh Kamau <jo...@gmail.com>]

Hi Ernesto

This is RIA enough. I wish i could do such with Wicket.

http://www.extjs.com/examples/#roweditorgrid

regards

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro <
reiern70@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> impressive. However , i would like to say that IMHO wicket is more suitable
> > for creating websites as opposed to RIA applications. I would like to
> make
> >
>
> Is this screen shot "RIA enough" for your taste?
>
> http://antilia.googlecode.com/svn/wiki/Screenshot1.jpg
>
> It was made using Wicket;-)
>
> Best,
>
> Ernesto
>

Re: RIA solution based on wicket

[Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro <re...@gmail.com>]

Hi,

impressive. However , i would like to say that IMHO wicket is more suitable
> for creating websites as opposed to RIA applications. I would like to make
>

Is this screen shot "RIA enough" for your taste?

http://antilia.googlecode.com/svn/wiki/Screenshot1.jpg

It was made using Wicket;-)

Best,

Ernesto