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Posted to dev@nifi.apache.org by Joe Witt <jo...@apache.org> on 2015/10/30 14:19:27 UTC
spam to the dev mailing list
Team,
As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi. I cannot
keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
through. I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
some come through my apologies.
About to make a NiFi spam bot!
Joe
Re: spam to the dev mailing list
Posted by Tony Kurc <tr...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Alex,
I think Joe was just saying "the workflow for accepting/rejecting makes
mistakes possible, I'm sorry if it breaks down". We both moderate via email
(not sure if there is another way) and this is a problem where adding
people may increase the incidence of errors, because it is a distributed
process.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Alex Moundalexis <al...@cloudera.com>
wrote:
> If another moderator is needed, I'm happy to volunteer. I may not write a
> lot of code but I know spam when I see it.
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Tony Kurc is the other moderator at this time.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
> > > Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >> Team,
> > >>
> > >> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi. I cannot
> > >> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
> > >> through. I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
> > >> some come through my apologies.
> > >>
> > >> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
> > >>
> > >> Joe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sean
> >
>
Re: spam to the dev mailing list
Posted by Alex Moundalexis <al...@cloudera.com>.
If another moderator is needed, I'm happy to volunteer. I may not write a
lot of code but I know spam when I see it.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tony Kurc is the other moderator at this time.
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> > Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Team,
> >>
> >> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi. I cannot
> >> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
> >> through. I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
> >> some come through my apologies.
> >>
> >> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
> >>
> >> Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sean
>
Re: spam to the dev mailing list
Posted by Joe Witt <jo...@gmail.com>.
+1000x to Tony's comment. I have this very same thread going with
infra@apache too. We get some good emails that require moderation and
I don't want to miss those. But I woke up to a few dozen crap emails
to kill.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Tony Kurc <tr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sean,
> The challenging bit is not missing a legit message among the spam.
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
>> FWIW, the mailing list FAQ[1] says that any messages moderators don't
>> respond to are treated as spam and silently dropped after 5 days. By
>> actively rejecting you send a notice message back to the sender.
>>
>>
>> [1]: http://apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Tony Kurc is the other moderator at this time.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>> Team,
>> >>>
>> >>> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi. I cannot
>> >>> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
>> >>> through. I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
>> >>> some come through my apologies.
>> >>>
>> >>> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
>> >>>
>> >>> Joe
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Sean
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sean
>>
Re: spam to the dev mailing list
Posted by Tony Kurc <tr...@gmail.com>.
Sean, some of the challenge is not all email clients allow someone to tear
through emails quickly
On Oct 30, 2015 10:14 AM, "Joe Witt" <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> rgr - thanks sean. Do you know of any apache voodoo to help with spam
> or is this kind of an open issue?
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> > Yes, of course. I meant to address Joe's initial concern that by not
> > keeping up with incoming messages spam might leak through.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Tony Kurc <tr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Sean,
> >> The challenging bit is not missing a legit message among the spam.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> FWIW, the mailing list FAQ[1] says that any messages moderators don't
> >>> respond to are treated as spam and silently dropped after 5 days. By
> >>> actively rejecting you send a notice message back to the sender.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [1]: http://apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > Tony Kurc is the other moderator at this time.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >> Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>> >>> Team,
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi. I
> cannot
> >>> >>> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
> >>> >>> through. I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so
> if
> >>> >>> some come through my apologies.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Joe
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> Sean
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Sean
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sean
>
Re: spam to the dev mailing list
Posted by Joe Witt <jo...@gmail.com>.
rgr - thanks sean. Do you know of any apache voodoo to help with spam
or is this kind of an open issue?
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> Yes, of course. I meant to address Joe's initial concern that by not
> keeping up with incoming messages spam might leak through.
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Tony Kurc <tr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sean,
>> The challenging bit is not missing a legit message among the spam.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW, the mailing list FAQ[1] says that any messages moderators don't
>>> respond to are treated as spam and silently dropped after 5 days. By
>>> actively rejecting you send a notice message back to the sender.
>>>
>>>
>>> [1]: http://apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Tony Kurc is the other moderator at this time.
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> >>> Team,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi. I cannot
>>> >>> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
>>> >>> through. I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
>>> >>> some come through my apologies.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Joe
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sean
>>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sean
Re: spam to the dev mailing list
Posted by Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com>.
Yes, of course. I meant to address Joe's initial concern that by not
keeping up with incoming messages spam might leak through.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Tony Kurc <tr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sean,
> The challenging bit is not missing a legit message among the spam.
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
>> FWIW, the mailing list FAQ[1] says that any messages moderators don't
>> respond to are treated as spam and silently dropped after 5 days. By
>> actively rejecting you send a notice message back to the sender.
>>
>>
>> [1]: http://apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Tony Kurc is the other moderator at this time.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>> Team,
>> >>>
>> >>> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi. I cannot
>> >>> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
>> >>> through. I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
>> >>> some come through my apologies.
>> >>>
>> >>> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
>> >>>
>> >>> Joe
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Sean
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sean
>>
--
Sean
Re: spam to the dev mailing list
Posted by Tony Kurc <tr...@gmail.com>.
Sean,
The challenging bit is not missing a legit message among the spam.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> FWIW, the mailing list FAQ[1] says that any messages moderators don't
> respond to are treated as spam and silently dropped after 5 days. By
> actively rejecting you send a notice message back to the sender.
>
>
> [1]: http://apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Tony Kurc is the other moderator at this time.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
> >> Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>> Team,
> >>>
> >>> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi. I cannot
> >>> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
> >>> through. I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
> >>> some come through my apologies.
> >>>
> >>> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
> >>>
> >>> Joe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sean
>
>
>
> --
> Sean
>
Re: spam to the dev mailing list
Posted by Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com>.
FWIW, the mailing list FAQ[1] says that any messages moderators don't
respond to are treated as spam and silently dropped after 5 days. By
actively rejecting you send a notice message back to the sender.
[1]: http://apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tony Kurc is the other moderator at this time.
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>> Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Team,
>>>
>>> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi. I cannot
>>> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
>>> through. I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
>>> some come through my apologies.
>>>
>>> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
>>>
>>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sean
--
Sean
Re: spam to the dev mailing list
Posted by Joe Witt <jo...@gmail.com>.
Tony Kurc is the other moderator at this time.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Team,
>>
>> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi. I cannot
>> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
>> through. I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
>> some come through my apologies.
>>
>> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
>>
>> Joe
>
>
>
> --
> Sean
Re: spam to the dev mailing list
Posted by Tony Kurc <tr...@gmail.com>.
Some are (like me). The process of reject/accept is challenging to
coordinate.
Re: spam to the dev mailing list
Posted by Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com>.
Are the rest of the PMC already moderators?
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Team,
>
> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi. I cannot
> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
> through. I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
> some come through my apologies.
>
> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
>
> Joe
--
Sean
Re: spam to the dev mailing list
Posted by Joe Witt <jo...@gmail.com>.
That is indeed how it works. However those items go to moderators to
handle. This allows folks who might not know about registration or care to
get the emails still be able to communicate.
On Oct 30, 2015 12:52 PM, "Rick Braddy" <rb...@softnas.com> wrote:
> How about auto-rejecting emails from all unregistered senders, since one
> must register before sending email this group anyway?
>
> Spammers won't take time to register.
>
> Rick
>
> > On Oct 30, 2015, at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Team,
> >
> > As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi. I cannot
> > keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
> > through. I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
> > some come through my apologies.
> >
> > About to make a NiFi spam bot!
> >
> > Joe
>
Re: spam to the dev mailing list
Posted by Rick Braddy <rb...@softnas.com>.
How about auto-rejecting emails from all unregistered senders, since one must register before sending email this group anyway?
Spammers won't take time to register.
Rick
> On Oct 30, 2015, at 8:19 AM, Joe Witt <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Team,
>
> As a moderator I'm getting tons of spam emails to dev@nifi. I cannot
> keep up with rejections and am not sure if that means they'll leak
> through. I'm not quite sure how to go about getting it address so if
> some come through my apologies.
>
> About to make a NiFi spam bot!
>
> Joe