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Posted to dev@shindig.apache.org by Chris Chabot <ch...@xs4all.nl> on 2008/03/11 16:51:11 UTC
localhost:8080 makes me a sad panda
Hey Guys,
Now i understand the PHP version might not be a priority for a lot of
you, but every time i run into some localhost:8080 requests, i become a
little sad at the time it'll cost me to hack the code locally again to
make it work with the PHP port. I'm actively developing it and trying to
follow the SVN trunk, but i can't do that if the examples, features,
javascripts and container code don't work on both versions.
Today i noticed in the svn sync that i now got 2 hardcoded
localhost:8080 values in features/opensocial-0.7 (feature.xml and
batchrequest.js, the one in feature.xml being new)
Also the compliance test that i use a lot
(http://opensocial-resources.googlecode.com/svn/tests/trunk/compliancetests.xml) also features a hard coded reference to localhost:8080 (which ps throws the results in the various opensocial sandboxes that i also run this gadget on out of curiosity a bit off too).
Anyhow, can't we find a way to get along without committing things that
make each others lives harder? I think if i would commit things that
would make the java version not work out of the box you'd feel the same
right? :)
-- Chris
RE: Shindig update
Posted by LAKSHMI PILLAY <la...@TechMahindra.com>.
Hi All,
Many thanks for the links sent.
Ram, yes think quite a few perceptions have been cleared. As I see it,
shindig is more of an enabler, guess it's one of those duhhh.. moments
I seem to specialize in. Would be working on a sample implementation
over this weekend, think will update the wiki link.
Thanks again.
Regards.
Lakshmi
-----Original Message-----
From: Ram Sharma [mailto:ramsharma2k5@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 6:43 PM
To: shindig-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Shindig update
Hi Laxmi,
I am a bit confused by your question. Are you looking for a tool which
can help you to build a complete social network site or you have a
social network site and want it to be an open social container to render
third party gadgets/widgets?
If you are looking for SNS tool than Shindig is not a tool to create a
SNS.
Shindig is just a framework that allows you to open social complaint
container into your SNS.
I think currently Shindig Java supports almost all the features
specified in open social 0.7 specification and progressing in the 0.8
specification support.
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Akash Xavier
<ak...@gmail.com>wrote:
> http://wiki.apache.org/shindig/
> And thats the link to the Shindig wiki
>
> --
> Akash Manohar
> akashmanohar@gmail.com
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Akash Xavier <akashmanohar@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi Laxmi
> >
> > http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/
> >
> > That site should help. Shindig is currently according to OpenSocial
0.7.
> > Working towards 0.8
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Akash Manohar
> > akashmanohar@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:58 AM, LAKSHMI PILLAY
> ><laxmi@techmahindra.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We are in the process of evaluating shindig which seems the best
> >> fit for one of our proposals to build a social network site which
> >> provides the ability to render third-party widgets.
> >> Is there any site / wiki which lists out the features which are
> >> currently available on the shindig java version. Would like to
> >> evaluate the list of features shindig provides against the
requirements.
> >>
> >> Many thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks and regards.
> >> Lakshmi
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ======================================================================
> ======================================================
> >>
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> >>
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>
--
Ram Sharma
Software Engineer
Impetus Infotech (India) Pvt Ltd
Indore
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Re: Shindig update
Posted by Ram Sharma <ra...@gmail.com>.
Hi Laxmi,
I am a bit confused by your question. Are you looking for a tool which can
help you to build a complete social network site or you have a social
network site and want it to be an open social container to render third
party gadgets/widgets?
If you are looking for SNS tool than Shindig is not a tool to create a SNS.
Shindig is just a framework that allows you to open social complaint
container into your SNS.
I think currently Shindig Java supports almost all the features specified in
open social 0.7 specification and progressing in the 0.8 specification
support.
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Akash Xavier <ak...@gmail.com>wrote:
> http://wiki.apache.org/shindig/
> And thats the link to the Shindig wiki
>
> --
> Akash Manohar
> akashmanohar@gmail.com
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Akash Xavier <akashmanohar@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi Laxmi
> >
> > http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/
> >
> > That site should help. Shindig is currently according to OpenSocial 0.7.
> > Working towards 0.8
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Akash Manohar
> > akashmanohar@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:58 AM, LAKSHMI PILLAY <laxmi@techmahindra.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We are in the process of evaluating shindig which seems the best fit for
> >> one of our proposals to build a social network site which provides the
> >> ability to render third-party widgets.
> >> Is there any site / wiki which lists out the features which are
> >> currently available on the shindig java version. Would like to evaluate
> >> the list of features shindig provides against the requirements.
> >>
> >> Many thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks and regards.
> >> Lakshmi
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ============================================================================================================================
> >>
> >> Disclaimer:
> >>
> >> This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and
> >> confidential and subject to the Tech Mahindra policy statement, you may
> >> review the policy at <a href="
> http://www.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html
> >> ">http://www.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html</a> externally and <a
> >> href="http://tim.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html">
> >> http://tim.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html</a> internally within Tech
> >> Mahindra.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ============================================================================================================================
> >>
> >
> >
>
--
Ram Sharma
Software Engineer
Impetus Infotech (India) Pvt Ltd
Indore
Re: Shindig update
Posted by Akash Xavier <ak...@gmail.com>.
http://wiki.apache.org/shindig/
And thats the link to the Shindig wiki
--
Akash Manohar
akashmanohar@gmail.com
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Akash Xavier <ak...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Laxmi
>
> http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/
>
> That site should help. Shindig is currently according to OpenSocial 0.7.
> Working towards 0.8
> Hope that helps.
>
>
> --
> Akash Manohar
> akashmanohar@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:58 AM, LAKSHMI PILLAY <la...@techmahindra.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We are in the process of evaluating shindig which seems the best fit for
>> one of our proposals to build a social network site which provides the
>> ability to render third-party widgets.
>> Is there any site / wiki which lists out the features which are
>> currently available on the shindig java version. Would like to evaluate
>> the list of features shindig provides against the requirements.
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>
>>
>> Thanks and regards.
>> Lakshmi
>>
>>
>>
>> ============================================================================================================================
>>
>> Disclaimer:
>>
>> This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and
>> confidential and subject to the Tech Mahindra policy statement, you may
>> review the policy at <a href="http://www.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html
>> ">http://www.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html</a> externally and <a
>> href="http://tim.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html">
>> http://tim.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html</a> internally within Tech
>> Mahindra.
>>
>>
>> ============================================================================================================================
>>
>
>
Re: Shindig update
Posted by Akash Xavier <ak...@gmail.com>.
Hi Laxmi
http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/
That site should help. Shindig is currently according to OpenSocial 0.7.
Working towards 0.8
Hope that helps.
--
Akash Manohar
akashmanohar@gmail.com
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:58 AM, LAKSHMI PILLAY <la...@techmahindra.com>wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> We are in the process of evaluating shindig which seems the best fit for
> one of our proposals to build a social network site which provides the
> ability to render third-party widgets.
> Is there any site / wiki which lists out the features which are
> currently available on the shindig java version. Would like to evaluate
> the list of features shindig provides against the requirements.
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
> Thanks and regards.
> Lakshmi
>
>
>
> ============================================================================================================================
>
> Disclaimer:
>
> This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and
> confidential and subject to the Tech Mahindra policy statement, you may
> review the policy at <a href="http://www.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html
> ">http://www.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html</a> externally and <a href="
> http://tim.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html">
> http://tim.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html</a> internally within Tech
> Mahindra.
>
>
> ============================================================================================================================
>
Re: localhost:8080 makes me a sad panda
Posted by Chris Chabot <ch...@xs4all.nl>.
Thanks Cassie,
Looks good and working well for me!
-- Chris
On Mar 12, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Cassie wrote:
> Okay, btw - for the usage in batchrequest.js it only uses localhost:
> 8080 as
> a fallback. If you specify an alternate path then it won't use
> localhost:8080. I still need to pull out the feature.xml usage into
> a config
> but I just wanted to let you know that there is only 1 real usage.
>
> - Cassie
Re: localhost:8080 makes me a sad panda
Posted by Cassie <do...@apache.org>.
Okay, btw - for the usage in batchrequest.js it only uses localhost:8080 as
a fallback. If you specify an alternate path then it won't use
localhost:8080. I still need to pull out the feature.xml usage into a config
but I just wanted to let you know that there is only 1 real usage.
- Cassie
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Cassie <do...@apache.org> wrote:
> I thought I fixed the opensocial-0.7/batchrequest one to use the passed in
> path value that comes from the feature.xml but I guess I mixed that up. I
> will fix that shortly.
>
> I don't want you to worry too much though Chris because 99% of the Shindig
> users can't rely on localhost:8080.. not google's hosted Shindig, not Orkut,
> not hi5... so it isn't just the php :)
>
> The only place you will ever see this bug is actually in the sample or new
> stuff just because no one is actually using it outside of development. This
> is why you saw me use it in the opensocial-0.7 stuff which is all a wip. I
> was trying to get rid of it, but makeRequest needs a full url. I simply need
> to move the opensocial-0.7 path into the config file.. and have it use the
> parent or something.
>
> Anyway, I will fix this for you soon and I promise I won't do it again.
>
> - Cassie
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Chris Chabot <ch...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
> > ps my mistake on the compliance test, it turns out that the javascript
> > in opensocial-0.7 makes it do a request to localhost:8080 and not its
> > own code
> >
> > On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 16:51 +0100, Chris Chabot wrote:
> >
> > > Hey Guys,
> > >
> > > Now i understand the PHP version might not be a priority for a lot of
> > > you, but every time i run into some localhost:8080 requests, i become
> > a
> > > little sad at the time it'll cost me to hack the code locally again to
> > > make it work with the PHP port. I'm actively developing it and trying
> > to
> > > follow the SVN trunk, but i can't do that if the examples, features,
> > > javascripts and container code don't work on both versions.
> > >
> > > Today i noticed in the svn sync that i now got 2 hardcoded
> > > localhost:8080 values in features/opensocial-0.7 (feature.xml and
> > > batchrequest.js, the one in feature.xml being new)
> > >
> > > Also the compliance test that i use a lot
> > > (
> > http://opensocial-resources.googlecode.com/svn/tests/trunk/compliancetests.xml)
> > also features a hard coded reference to localhost:8080 (which ps throws the
> > results in the various opensocial sandboxes that i also run this gadget on
> > out of curiosity a bit off too).
> > >
> > > Anyhow, can't we find a way to get along without committing things
> > that
> > > make each others lives harder? I think if i would commit things that
> > > would make the java version not work out of the box you'd feel the
> > same
> > > right? :)
> > >
> > > -- Chris
> > >
> >
>
>
Shindig update
Posted by LAKSHMI PILLAY <la...@TechMahindra.com>.
Hi,
We are in the process of evaluating shindig which seems the best fit for
one of our proposals to build a social network site which provides the
ability to render third-party widgets.
Is there any site / wiki which lists out the features which are
currently available on the shindig java version. Would like to evaluate
the list of features shindig provides against the requirements.
Many thanks.
Thanks and regards.
Lakshmi
============================================================================================================================
Disclaimer:
This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Tech Mahindra policy statement, you may review the policy at <a href="http://www.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html">http://www.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html</a> externally and <a href="http://tim.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html">http://tim.techmahindra.com/Disclaimer.html</a> internally within Tech Mahindra.
============================================================================================================================
Re: localhost:8080 makes me a sad panda
Posted by Cassie <do...@apache.org>.
I thought I fixed the opensocial-0.7/batchrequest one to use the passed in
path value that comes from the feature.xml but I guess I mixed that up. I
will fix that shortly.
I don't want you to worry too much though Chris because 99% of the Shindig
users can't rely on localhost:8080.. not google's hosted Shindig, not Orkut,
not hi5... so it isn't just the php :)
The only place you will ever see this bug is actually in the sample or new
stuff just because no one is actually using it outside of development. This
is why you saw me use it in the opensocial-0.7 stuff which is all a wip. I
was trying to get rid of it, but makeRequest needs a full url. I simply need
to move the opensocial-0.7 path into the config file.. and have it use the
parent or something.
Anyway, I will fix this for you soon and I promise I won't do it again.
- Cassie
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Chris Chabot <ch...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> ps my mistake on the compliance test, it turns out that the javascript
> in opensocial-0.7 makes it do a request to localhost:8080 and not its
> own code
>
> On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 16:51 +0100, Chris Chabot wrote:
>
> > Hey Guys,
> >
> > Now i understand the PHP version might not be a priority for a lot of
> > you, but every time i run into some localhost:8080 requests, i become a
> > little sad at the time it'll cost me to hack the code locally again to
> > make it work with the PHP port. I'm actively developing it and trying to
> > follow the SVN trunk, but i can't do that if the examples, features,
> > javascripts and container code don't work on both versions.
> >
> > Today i noticed in the svn sync that i now got 2 hardcoded
> > localhost:8080 values in features/opensocial-0.7 (feature.xml and
> > batchrequest.js, the one in feature.xml being new)
> >
> > Also the compliance test that i use a lot
> > (
> http://opensocial-resources.googlecode.com/svn/tests/trunk/compliancetests.xml)
> also features a hard coded reference to localhost:8080 (which ps throws the
> results in the various opensocial sandboxes that i also run this gadget on
> out of curiosity a bit off too).
> >
> > Anyhow, can't we find a way to get along without committing things that
> > make each others lives harder? I think if i would commit things that
> > would make the java version not work out of the box you'd feel the same
> > right? :)
> >
> > -- Chris
> >
>
Re: localhost:8080 makes me a sad panda
Posted by Chris Chabot <ch...@xs4all.nl>.
ps my mistake on the compliance test, it turns out that the javascript
in opensocial-0.7 makes it do a request to localhost:8080 and not its
own code
On Tue, 2008-03-11 at 16:51 +0100, Chris Chabot wrote:
> Hey Guys,
>
> Now i understand the PHP version might not be a priority for a lot of
> you, but every time i run into some localhost:8080 requests, i become a
> little sad at the time it'll cost me to hack the code locally again to
> make it work with the PHP port. I'm actively developing it and trying to
> follow the SVN trunk, but i can't do that if the examples, features,
> javascripts and container code don't work on both versions.
>
> Today i noticed in the svn sync that i now got 2 hardcoded
> localhost:8080 values in features/opensocial-0.7 (feature.xml and
> batchrequest.js, the one in feature.xml being new)
>
> Also the compliance test that i use a lot
> (http://opensocial-resources.googlecode.com/svn/tests/trunk/compliancetests.xml) also features a hard coded reference to localhost:8080 (which ps throws the results in the various opensocial sandboxes that i also run this gadget on out of curiosity a bit off too).
>
> Anyhow, can't we find a way to get along without committing things that
> make each others lives harder? I think if i would commit things that
> would make the java version not work out of the box you'd feel the same
> right? :)
>
> -- Chris
>