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Posted to user@turbine.apache.org by pavel <pa...@icecentric.com> on 2003/03/18 19:01:49 UTC

Money for Sample app/documentation

Hi,

In previous email Henning offered to make the sample app if there was a
sponsor. Well, what do you think about charging users a little money for
documentation. Open source such as JFreeChart or JBoss charge $40 or $90 for
detailed documentation. TDK saved our company definitely more than $100 and
would have saved more if there was a good documentation.

So, what I am thinking is that somebody would create the
documentation/sample app and then when it is finished Turbine would start
charging users and the developer could get paid. So it would not be money
upfront or during but after.

Definittely our company would have no problem to pay some money for good
documentation/sample app.

This approach may not comply with the rules in this comunity. If it does not
I am sorry. Just trying to help.

With regards,

Pavel Kusch


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Re: Money for Sample app/documentation

Posted by "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>.
Jason van Zyl <ja...@zenplex.com> writes:

>No problem, I just think there are other ways to do it. I don't like the
>idea of charging users for documentation. 

Same here. I still think that it's a shame that there is no really
good docs on Log4j and the only people really being able to write docs
about it (the developers) don't have any interest in this because they
want their book to be sold.

	Regards
		Henning


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Re: Money for Sample app/documentation

Posted by "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>.
Jason van Zyl <ja...@zenplex.com> writes:

>I would rather raise money and pay someone like Pete Kazmier who has
>written the best Turbine-related documentation I've seen to date.

To what documentation are you relating? The xdocs or is there more
turbine docs somewhere?

	Regards
		Henning

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Re: Money for Sample app/documentation

Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@zenplex.com>.
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 13:01, pavel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> In previous email Henning offered to make the sample app if there was a
> sponsor. Well, what do you think about charging users a little money for
> documentation. 

Absolutely not. I would raise money to pay someone to do the
documentation but I would never charge users for documentation. Good
documentation costs money in some form or another. But I think it's
insidious to give away the code and then charge for documentation. I
find the idea repulsive.

> Open source such as JFreeChart or JBoss charge $40 or $90 for
> detailed documentation. TDK saved our company definitely more than $100 and
> would have saved more if there was a good documentation.

I would rather raise money and pay someone like Pete Kazmier who has
written the best Turbine-related documentation I've seen to date.

> So, what I am thinking is that somebody would create the
> documentation/sample app and then when it is finished Turbine would start
> charging users and the developer could get paid. So it would not be money
> upfront or during but after.
> 
> Definittely our company would have no problem to pay some money for good
> documentation/sample app.
> 
> This approach may not comply with the rules in this comunity. If it does not
> I am sorry. Just trying to help.

No problem, I just think there are other ways to do it. I don't like the
idea of charging users for documentation. 

> With regards,
> 
> Pavel Kusch
> 
> 
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Jason van Zyl
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