A suggestion for those un-interested in off-topic arguments

[e-letter <in...@gmail.com>]

Readers,

Occasionally read this mailing list; this time was amazed and amused
at the recent nonsense occurring.

For novices to mailing lists, a suggestion: subscribe using the digest
mode. You receive a delayed, single combined message of a group of
messages. It is an easy and convenient way to avoid the nonsense
polluting your e-mail inbox.

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RE: A suggestion for those un-interested in off-topic arguments

[Maurice Howe <ma...@stny.rr.com>]

Ummm.  And I can do that how?? 

Cheers,
Maurice Howe
I'm retired. Go around me.

 
 

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Subject: A suggestion for those un-interested in off-topic arguments

Readers,

Occasionally read this mailing list; this time was amazed and amused at the
recent nonsense occurring.

For novices to mailing lists, a suggestion: subscribe using the digest mode.
You receive a delayed, single combined message of a group of messages. It is
an easy and convenient way to avoid the nonsense polluting your e-mail
inbox.

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Re: A suggestion for those un-interested in off-topic arguments

[Jeffrey Deutsch <jd...@gmail.com>]

Actually, getting digest form means you get *all* the nonsense in the same
message, and you have to dig through the whole thing to find *anything* you
want to read.

Then, if you want to reply to it, you have to do heavy-duty editing (or
subject everyone else to receiving the whole digest, too).

Here's a much better suggestion: Members understand that they need to take
all off-topic discussions private (that is, off the list). This is enforced
by the moderators, who can warn, put on moderation*, suspend or even expel
a repeat offender.

[*] Putting someone on moderation means that he or she can't just post
directly to the list. Everything he or she wants to send to the list is
actually emailed to the moderator, who has to personally approve it before
it actually appears on the list.

Happy New Year!

Jeff Deutsch
Speaker & Life Coach
A SPLINT - ASPies LInking with NTs
http://www.asplint.com

"Listen to the universe while it whispers before it has to shout."
Marion Grobb Finkelstein, Communication Catalyst --
http://www.MarionSpeaks.com


On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 5:03 PM, e-letter <in...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Readers,
>
> Occasionally read this mailing list; this time was amazed and amused
> at the recent nonsense occurring.
>
> For novices to mailing lists, a suggestion: subscribe using the digest
> mode. You receive a delayed, single combined message of a group of
> messages. It is an easy and convenient way to avoid the nonsense
> polluting your e-mail inbox.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@openoffice.apache.org
>
>

Re: A suggestion for those un-interested in off-topic arguments

["M. Fioretti" <mf...@nexaima.net>]

On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 22:03:26 PM +0000, e-letter wrote:

> For novices to mailing lists, a suggestion: subscribe using the
> digest mode. You receive a delayed, single combined message of a
> group of messages. It is an easy and convenient way to avoid the
> nonsense polluting your e-mail inbox.

with all respect, this is BAD advice. It's an easy way to accomplish
nothing AND get ignored or start more flamewars.

First, digest mode avoids NO pollution at all. If there are 100
useless or "nonsense" messages you still get ALL of them, just in one
batch, and mixed with all the others so they are HARDER to filter out.

Second, novices often answer to digests, when they don't start whole
new threads, by simply hitting "Reply" to the digest themselves. So:

- almost nobody bothers to open those answers because they have a
  meaningless subject ("Re: digest of users@openoffice...")

- every subscriber gets all the messages of the previous day AGAIN
  (which makes people with non-flat rate mobile connections
  veeeeeeeeery happy)

- even people with flat rate connection start the usual flame war
  between top and bottom posters because they get 5 lines of new text
  before or after 1000 lines of digest

  Marco

PS: not for "novices to mailing list", but people who wants to "avoid
    the nonsense polluting the inbox" can completely filter out
    uninteresting threads with this procmail trick:

    http://freesoftware.zona-m.net/how-ignore-uninteresting-threads-in-mailing-lists/

    I use it since when I wrote about it, and it works. I only
    realized that there must have been pretty good flamewars here
    recently when I got Rob's reminder about list policies yesterday

-- 

M. Fioretti http://mfioretti.com                   http://stop.zona-m.net

Your own civil rights and the quality of your life heavily depend on how
software is used *around* you

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