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Posted to ivy-user@ant.apache.org by Shawn Heisey <ap...@elyograg.org> on 2018/06/08 13:39:40 UTC
IvyDE from Eclipse Marketplace is ancient
I'm using IvyDE in eclipse. The eclipse version is Oxygen.3a, the IvyDE
version is 2.2.0.final-201311091524-RELEASE. I actually had no idea
until just now that IvyDE was such an old version. I installed it using
Eclipse Marketplace only a few weeks ago.
I was having a problem with slf4j dependencies. Through a process of
elimination, I have determined that the slf4j project has broken their
dependencies in the newest version. But I do still wonder about that
ancient IvyDE version. Is there are newer version of IvyDE available?
If so, how do I get it into eclipse?
Thanks,
Shawn
Re: IvyDE from Eclipse Marketplace is ancient
Posted by Jaikiran Pai <ja...@gmail.com>.
The project itself isn't dead. However, like Ivy itself, development has
been slow the past couple of years. Ivy itself released a new version a
few weeks back (2.5.0-rc1). I think we can release a IvyDE version too.
I'll try and get a (RC) release out the next week or so.
As for that JIRA you mention, the problem probably isn't IvyDE and
instead is Ivy 2.5.0-rc1 (based on the details I see in that JIRA's
environment section). We have a JIRA for tracking the bug in Ivy
(IVY-1580) and I'm working towards a fix for it.
-Jaikiran
On 09/06/18 12:43 AM, Shawn Heisey wrote:
> On 6/8/2018 8:13 AM, rcohen@e1b.org wrote:
>> I don't think there is a newer version available, and I think the last
>> release was about the same time as the previous work on Ivy was being
>> done. Hopefully, IvyDE will keep up the work in Ivy, as without IDE
>> integration it's hard to see Ivy surviving. As far as I know, however,
>> IvyDE 2.2.0 continues to work in the latest eclipse.
> Indeed, IvyDE does seem to be working well. Says good things about both
> IvyDE and the APIs in Eclipse, when something that's so old continues to
> work.
>
> But it does make me nervous to see no releases in nearly five years.
> Found the project page for IvyDE, and it says this is the right mailing
> list.
>
> In my travels to learn whether it's a dead project or not, I see an
> issue for exactly the problem I was experiencing which got me started
> down this rabbit hole:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVYDE-387
>
> The SVN trunk for ivyde shows a last commit date four years ago, but the
> github repository shows a commit TODAY.
>
> https://github.com/apache/ant-ivyde/commits/master
>
> Which prompts the question: Is IvyDE dead?
>
> Thanks,
> Shawn
>
Re: IvyDE from Eclipse Marketplace is ancient
Posted by Jaikiran Pai <ja...@gmail.com>.
I'm in the process of releasing IvyDE. Given that it hasn't been
released in a while, it might take a few days for me to get this
released and made available for voting. I'll send out a note once that's
ready.
-Jaikiran
On 11/06/18 8:25 PM, rcohen@e1b.org wrote:
> Well, my plan was to stay with the last version of Eclipse that works with
> IvyDE, If it stops working, I'll wait a couple years (I'm a lazy
> bastard), and then update IvyDE myself -- if need be. If that were to
> prove impossible (very unlikely), I'd move to gradle (or what not) --
> anything but maven (which I loath). Ant has a couple shortcomings, but
> I'm comfortable with it, and am able to accomplish feats the mere
> contemplation of which would make a mavenite cry for his mommy.
>
> Even if a real release is not needed, IvyDE should probably do a "bump"
> release every two years -- just to let the world know the project isn't
> pushing up daisies.
>
> Ross
>
>
>
>
> From: "Shawn Heisey" <ap...@elyograg.org>
> To: ivy-user@ant.apache.org,
> Date: 06/08/2018 03:14 PM
> Subject: Re: IvyDE from Eclipse Marketplace is ancient
>
>
>
> On 6/8/2018 8:13 AM, rcohen@e1b.org wrote:
>> I don't think there is a newer version available, and I think the last
>> release was about the same time as the previous work on Ivy was being
>> done. Hopefully, IvyDE will keep up the work in Ivy, as without IDE
>> integration it's hard to see Ivy surviving. As far as I know, however,
>> IvyDE 2.2.0 continues to work in the latest eclipse.
> Indeed, IvyDE does seem to be working well. Says good things about both
> IvyDE and the APIs in Eclipse, when something that's so old continues to
> work.
>
> But it does make me nervous to see no releases in nearly five years.
> Found the project page for IvyDE, and it says this is the right mailing
> list.
>
> In my travels to learn whether it's a dead project or not, I see an
> issue for exactly the problem I was experiencing which got me started
> down this rabbit hole:
>
> https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly9pc3N1ZXMuYXBhY2hlLm9yZy9qaXJhL2Jyb3dzZS9JVllERS0zODc%3D&_s=ZXJpZTE%3D&_c=d9250d65
>
>
> The SVN trunk for ivyde shows a last commit date four years ago, but the
> github repository shows a commit TODAY.
>
> https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly9naXRodWIuY29tL2FwYWNoZS9hbnQtaXZ5ZGUvY29tbWl0cy9tYXN0ZXI%3D&_s=ZXJpZTE%3D&_c=d7420f6b
>
>
> Which prompts the question: Is IvyDE dead?
>
> Thanks,
> Shawn
>
>
>
Re: IvyDE from Eclipse Marketplace is ancient
Posted by rc...@e1b.org.
Well, my plan was to stay with the last version of Eclipse that works with
IvyDE, If it stops working, I'll wait a couple years (I'm a lazy
bastard), and then update IvyDE myself -- if need be. If that were to
prove impossible (very unlikely), I'd move to gradle (or what not) --
anything but maven (which I loath). Ant has a couple shortcomings, but
I'm comfortable with it, and am able to accomplish feats the mere
contemplation of which would make a mavenite cry for his mommy.
Even if a real release is not needed, IvyDE should probably do a "bump"
release every two years -- just to let the world know the project isn't
pushing up daisies.
Ross
From: "Shawn Heisey" <ap...@elyograg.org>
To: ivy-user@ant.apache.org,
Date: 06/08/2018 03:14 PM
Subject: Re: IvyDE from Eclipse Marketplace is ancient
On 6/8/2018 8:13 AM, rcohen@e1b.org wrote:
> I don't think there is a newer version available, and I think the last
> release was about the same time as the previous work on Ivy was being
> done. Hopefully, IvyDE will keep up the work in Ivy, as without IDE
> integration it's hard to see Ivy surviving. As far as I know, however,
> IvyDE 2.2.0 continues to work in the latest eclipse.
Indeed, IvyDE does seem to be working well. Says good things about both
IvyDE and the APIs in Eclipse, when something that's so old continues to
work.
But it does make me nervous to see no releases in nearly five years.
Found the project page for IvyDE, and it says this is the right mailing
list.
In my travels to learn whether it's a dead project or not, I see an
issue for exactly the problem I was experiencing which got me started
down this rabbit hole:
https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly9pc3N1ZXMuYXBhY2hlLm9yZy9qaXJhL2Jyb3dzZS9JVllERS0zODc%3D&_s=ZXJpZTE%3D&_c=d9250d65
The SVN trunk for ivyde shows a last commit date four years ago, but the
github repository shows a commit TODAY.
https://milton-web.wnyric.org/canit/urlproxy.php?_q=aHR0cHM6Ly9naXRodWIuY29tL2FwYWNoZS9hbnQtaXZ5ZGUvY29tbWl0cy9tYXN0ZXI%3D&_s=ZXJpZTE%3D&_c=d7420f6b
Which prompts the question: Is IvyDE dead?
Thanks,
Shawn
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Re: IvyDE from Eclipse Marketplace is ancient
Posted by Shawn Heisey <ap...@elyograg.org>.
On 6/8/2018 8:13 AM, rcohen@e1b.org wrote:
> I don't think there is a newer version available, and I think the last
> release was about the same time as the previous work on Ivy was being
> done. Hopefully, IvyDE will keep up the work in Ivy, as without IDE
> integration it's hard to see Ivy surviving. As far as I know, however,
> IvyDE 2.2.0 continues to work in the latest eclipse.
Indeed, IvyDE does seem to be working well. Says good things about both
IvyDE and the APIs in Eclipse, when something that's so old continues to
work.
But it does make me nervous to see no releases in nearly five years.
Found the project page for IvyDE, and it says this is the right mailing
list.
In my travels to learn whether it's a dead project or not, I see an
issue for exactly the problem I was experiencing which got me started
down this rabbit hole:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVYDE-387
The SVN trunk for ivyde shows a last commit date four years ago, but the
github repository shows a commit TODAY.
https://github.com/apache/ant-ivyde/commits/master
Which prompts the question: Is IvyDE dead?
Thanks,
Shawn
Re: IvyDE from Eclipse Marketplace is ancient
Posted by rc...@e1b.org.
I don't think there is a newer version available, and I think the last
release was about the same time as the previous work on Ivy was being
done. Hopefully, IvyDE will keep up the work in Ivy, as without IDE
integration it's hard to see Ivy surviving. As far as I know, however,
IvyDE 2.2.0 continues to work in the latest eclipse.
Ross
From: "Shawn Heisey" <ap...@elyograg.org>
To: ivy-user@ant.apache.org,
Date: 06/08/2018 09:40 AM
Subject: IvyDE from Eclipse Marketplace is ancient
I'm using IvyDE in eclipse. The eclipse version is Oxygen.3a, the IvyDE
version is 2.2.0.final-201311091524-RELEASE. I actually had no idea
until just now that IvyDE was such an old version. I installed it using
Eclipse Marketplace only a few weeks ago.
I was having a problem with slf4j dependencies. Through a process of
elimination, I have determined that the slf4j project has broken their
dependencies in the newest version. But I do still wonder about that
ancient IvyDE version. Is there are newer version of IvyDE available?
If so, how do I get it into eclipse?
Thanks,
Shawn
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