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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Arjé Cahn <Ar...@hippo.nl> on 2003/06/02 12:57:55 UTC

RE: TidySerializer

Bruno says:
> What exactly is the purpose of a tidy serializer again?

I was fiddling around with Tidy and noticed that I couldn't get the <textarea/> problem solved with it.

[The <textarea/> problem: an empty textarea (<form><textarea/></div>) is serialized to <form><textarea></form> which results in a loss of everything below the textarea when rendered in the browser]

So this leaves very little reasons for me to use a TidySerializer.
Torsten, am I missing something? Have I forgotton why we needed it? What are your reasons to implement a TidySerializer?
I'm sure I had my reasons to need the TidySerializer; but I simply forgot them.

regards, Arje


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> ------- Additional Comments From bruno@outerthought.org  
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> What exactly is the purpose of a tidy serializer again?
> 
> If there are any problems with the current HTML serializers, 
> I'd rather see them
> fixed then hidden behind an additional layer.
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Re: TidySerializer

Posted by Torsten Knodt <to...@datas-world.de>.
On Monday 02 June 2003 12:57, Arjé Cahn wrote:
AC> Torsten, am I missing something? Have I forgotton why we needed it? What
AC> are your reasons to implement a TidySerializer?
AC> I'm sure I had my reasons to need the TidySerializer; but I simply forgot
AC> them.
My problem where unreadable XML/ HTML output (for humans) because of not 
working indent, dtd's which weren't checked at output (tidy can print out 
errors) and the "namespace problem".
For you it was only textarea when I'm not wrong. But a hint. I saw, that jtidy 
has many open patches, bugs and feature requests (see 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/jtidy). Perhaps incorporating them could 
help. The last jtidy update was in august 2000. In march 2002 someone claimed 
he wanted to make a new release. Someone asked later about it, but it seems 
there was no answer.

Regards
	Torsten

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RE: TidySerializer

Posted by Bruno Dumon <br...@outerthought.org>.
On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 12:57, Arjé Cahn wrote:
> Bruno says:
> > What exactly is the purpose of a tidy serializer again?
> 
> I was fiddling around with Tidy and noticed that I couldn't get the
> <textarea/> problem solved with it.
> 
> [The <textarea/> problem: an empty textarea (<form><textarea/></div>)
> is serialized to <form><textarea></form> which results in a loss of
> everything below the textarea when rendered in the browser]

There was a (Xalan) bug for this:
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15715

but it is marked as fixed. Are you sure the latest release (2.1-M2)
still has that behaviour? If so, you can reopen that bug.

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