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Posted to users@felix.apache.org by Alex Sviridov <oo...@mail.ru> on 2015/07/16 18:25:38 UTC
Re[6]: Is this mailing-list dead?
Thank you very very much!
Could you answer one more question - does felix include DS and I must build the last felix version (something like org.apache.felix.framework-x.x.x.jar)
or DS is s separate bundle?
>Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:21 -05:00 от Raymond Auge <ra...@liferay.com>:
>
>@org.osgi.service.component.annotations.Component(
> immediate = false,
> name = "default",
> scope = ServiceScope.PROTOTYPE
>)
>public class MyClass implements MyInterface{}
>
>
>On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru > wrote:
>
>> Thank you. Could you say at what state this version is - I mean how
>> stable it is.
>> And the second question how can I make prototype scope in the following
>> example:
>>
>> @Component (immediate = false)
>> @Property (name = "name",value = "default")
>> @Service
>> public class MyClass implements MyInterface{}
>>
>>
>> >Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:06 -05:00 от Raymond Auge <
>> raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
>> >
>> >Alex, it's because there is no released DS spec which supports prototype
>> >scope. That will only come out in the next couple months.
>> >
>> >However, DS in felix trunk has the support for it, so you could build from
>> >source.
>> >
>> >- Ray
>> >
>> >On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru >
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Neil, thank you. I use apache felix. And I tried to find information
>> how
>> >> to use DS with prototype scope - but I found nothing.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:56 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
>> >> njbartlett@gmail.com >:
>> >> >
>> >> >Yes and no. Mostly no.
>> >> >
>> >> >The OSGi core spec Release 6, which is now around a year old, does
>> >> include the ability for service consumers to obtain new service
>> instances
>> >> under their control (the so-called "prototype scope”). However the CDI
>> >> implementation you are using would also have to have support for this
>> >> feature. So your question relates to the CDI implementation… if it has a
>> >> mailing list then you should ask there.
>> >> >
>> >> >Regards
>> >> >Neil
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:51, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru >
>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Neil, unfortunately I can't agree with you. As I understand both pax
>> >> (@Inject @OsgiService) and fighterfish (@OSGiService) work with osgi
>> >> "registry".
>> >> >> So it is the question about how to get new service instance for every
>> >> consumer from osgi "registry" - I am sorry if the
>> >> >> terms I use are wrong. That's why I think this mailing list is the
>> >> right place. I think so...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:46 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
>> >> njbartlett@gmail.com >:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Alex,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This list might not be the best place to ask about CDI, since it is a
>> >> Java enterprise spec that is not much used with OSGi as far as I can
>> see.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In fact your choice to use CDI with OSGi puts you within a very
>> narrow
>> >> niche. It may be the case that nobody knows the answer to your
>> question, or
>> >> that what you want to achieve is not possible with the current tools. If
>> >> you are willing to invest in improving those tools yourself then you
>> might
>> >> make progress… otherwise I would strongly recommend finding a different
>> >> solution.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> Neil
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:41, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
>> <x-msg:
>> >> //e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aooo_saturn7@mail.ru >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Neil, thank you for your answer. I asked a question about using
>> >> getting new instance of DS for every consumer call to work with CDI at
>> this
>> >> >>> mailing list and at stackoverflow
>> >>
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31354996/osgi-ds-and-component-factories-issues
>> >> <
>> >>
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31354996/osgi-ds-and-component-factories-issues
>> >> >
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> You, Neil, helped me as you could, but you don't like CDI (as I
>> >> understood). Is here anyone else besides you, who could help, as the
>> >> question is very important for
>> >> >>> me and I can't continue work without getting certain answer.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:35 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
>> >> njbartlett@gmail.com <x-msg: //
>> >> e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3anjbartlett@gmail.com >>:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> No.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> > On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:34, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
>> <>>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I haven't got any messages from this mailing list. Is it dead?
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > --
>> >> >>> > Alex Sviridov
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>> Alex Sviridov
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Alex Sviridov
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Alex Sviridov
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >*Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
>> > (@rotty3000)
>> >Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
>> > (@Liferay)
>> >Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org >
>> (@OSGiAlliance)
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alex Sviridov
>>
>
>
>
>--
>*Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
> (@rotty3000)
>Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
> (@Liferay)
>Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org > (@OSGiAlliance)
--
Alex Sviridov
Re[8]: Is this mailing-list dead?
Posted by Alex Sviridov <oo...@mail.ru>.
Ok! I got it! I thank everybody for help. I will build scr felix bundle and test it with prototype service scope and pax cdi. I will tell later about the results.
>Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:32 -05:00 от Raymond Auge <ra...@liferay.com>:
>
>You need to build felix "scr", a separate felix module.
>
>Sincerely,
>- Ray
>
>On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru > wrote:
>
>> Thank you very very much!
>> Could you answer one more question - does felix include DS and I must
>> build the last felix version (something like
>> org.apache.felix.framework-x.x.x.jar)
>> or DS is s separate bundle?
>>
>> >Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:21 -05:00 от Raymond Auge <
>> raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
>> >
>> >@org.osgi.service.component.annotations.Component(
>> > immediate = false,
>> > name = "default",
>> > scope = ServiceScope.PROTOTYPE
>> >)
>> >public class MyClass implements MyInterface{}
>> >
>> >
>> >On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru >
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thank you. Could you say at what state this version is - I mean how
>> >> stable it is.
>> >> And the second question how can I make prototype scope in the following
>> >> example:
>> >>
>> >> @Component (immediate = false)
>> >> @Property (name = "name",value = "default")
>> >> @Service
>> >> public class MyClass implements MyInterface{}
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:06 -05:00 от Raymond Auge <
>> >> raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
>> >> >
>> >> >Alex, it's because there is no released DS spec which supports
>> prototype
>> >> >scope. That will only come out in the next couple months.
>> >> >
>> >> >However, DS in felix trunk has the support for it, so you could build
>> from
>> >> >source.
>> >> >
>> >> >- Ray
>> >> >
>> >> >On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Neil, thank you. I use apache felix. And I tried to find information
>> >> how
>> >> >> to use DS with prototype scope - but I found nothing.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:56 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
>> >> >> njbartlett@gmail.com >:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Yes and no. Mostly no.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >The OSGi core spec Release 6, which is now around a year old, does
>> >> >> include the ability for service consumers to obtain new service
>> >> instances
>> >> >> under their control (the so-called "prototype scope”). However the
>> CDI
>> >> >> implementation you are using would also have to have support for this
>> >> >> feature. So your question relates to the CDI implementation… if it
>> has a
>> >> >> mailing list then you should ask there.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Regards
>> >> >> >Neil
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:51, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru >
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Neil, unfortunately I can't agree with you. As I understand both
>> pax
>> >> >> (@Inject @OsgiService) and fighterfish (@OSGiService) work with osgi
>> >> >> "registry".
>> >> >> >> So it is the question about how to get new service instance for
>> every
>> >> >> consumer from osgi "registry" - I am sorry if the
>> >> >> >> terms I use are wrong. That's why I think this mailing list is the
>> >> >> right place. I think so...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:46 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
>> >> >> njbartlett@gmail.com >:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Alex,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> This list might not be the best place to ask about CDI, since it
>> is a
>> >> >> Java enterprise spec that is not much used with OSGi as far as I can
>> >> see.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> In fact your choice to use CDI with OSGi puts you within a very
>> >> narrow
>> >> >> niche. It may be the case that nobody knows the answer to your
>> >> question, or
>> >> >> that what you want to achieve is not possible with the current
>> tools. If
>> >> >> you are willing to invest in improving those tools yourself then you
>> >> might
>> >> >> make progress… otherwise I would strongly recommend finding a
>> different
>> >> >> solution.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> >> Neil
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:41, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
>> >> <x-msg:
>> >> >> //e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aooo_saturn7@mail.ru >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Neil, thank you for your answer. I asked a question about using
>> >> >> getting new instance of DS for every consumer call to work with CDI
>> at
>> >> this
>> >> >> >>> mailing list and at stackoverflow
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31354996/osgi-ds-and-component-factories-issues
>> >> >> <
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31354996/osgi-ds-and-component-factories-issues
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> You, Neil, helped me as you could, but you don't like CDI (as I
>> >> >> understood). Is here anyone else besides you, who could help, as the
>> >> >> question is very important for
>> >> >> >>> me and I can't continue work without getting certain answer.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:35 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
>> >> >> njbartlett@gmail.com <x-msg: //
>> >> >> e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3anjbartlett@gmail.com >>:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> No.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> > On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:34, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
>> >> <>>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > I haven't got any messages from this mailing list. Is it dead?
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > --
>> >> >> >>> > Alex Sviridov
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >>> Alex Sviridov
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Alex Sviridov
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Alex Sviridov
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >*Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
>> >> > (@rotty3000)
>> >> >Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
>> >> > (@Liferay)
>> >> >Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org >
>> >> (@OSGiAlliance)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Alex Sviridov
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >*Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
>> > (@rotty3000)
>> >Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
>> > (@Liferay)
>> >Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org >
>> (@OSGiAlliance)
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alex Sviridov
>>
>
>
>
>--
>*Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
> (@rotty3000)
>Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
> (@Liferay)
>Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org > (@OSGiAlliance)
--
Alex Sviridov
Re: Re[6]: Is this mailing-list dead?
Posted by Raymond Auge <ra...@liferay.com>.
You need to build felix "scr", a separate felix module.
Sincerely,
- Ray
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Alex Sviridov <oo...@mail.ru> wrote:
> Thank you very very much!
> Could you answer one more question - does felix include DS and I must
> build the last felix version (something like
> org.apache.felix.framework-x.x.x.jar)
> or DS is s separate bundle?
>
> >Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:21 -05:00 от Raymond Auge <
> raymond.auge@liferay.com>:
> >
> >@org.osgi.service.component.annotations.Component(
> > immediate = false,
> > name = "default",
> > scope = ServiceScope.PROTOTYPE
> >)
> >public class MyClass implements MyInterface{}
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru >
> wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you. Could you say at what state this version is - I mean how
> >> stable it is.
> >> And the second question how can I make prototype scope in the following
> >> example:
> >>
> >> @Component (immediate = false)
> >> @Property (name = "name",value = "default")
> >> @Service
> >> public class MyClass implements MyInterface{}
> >>
> >>
> >> >Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 11:06 -05:00 от Raymond Auge <
> >> raymond.auge@liferay.com >:
> >> >
> >> >Alex, it's because there is no released DS spec which supports
> prototype
> >> >scope. That will only come out in the next couple months.
> >> >
> >> >However, DS in felix trunk has the support for it, so you could build
> from
> >> >source.
> >> >
> >> >- Ray
> >> >
> >> >On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Neil, thank you. I use apache felix. And I tried to find information
> >> how
> >> >> to use DS with prototype scope - but I found nothing.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:56 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
> >> >> njbartlett@gmail.com >:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Yes and no. Mostly no.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The OSGi core spec Release 6, which is now around a year old, does
> >> >> include the ability for service consumers to obtain new service
> >> instances
> >> >> under their control (the so-called "prototype scope”). However the
> CDI
> >> >> implementation you are using would also have to have support for this
> >> >> feature. So your question relates to the CDI implementation… if it
> has a
> >> >> mailing list then you should ask there.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Regards
> >> >> >Neil
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:51, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru >
> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Neil, unfortunately I can't agree with you. As I understand both
> pax
> >> >> (@Inject @OsgiService) and fighterfish (@OSGiService) work with osgi
> >> >> "registry".
> >> >> >> So it is the question about how to get new service instance for
> every
> >> >> consumer from osgi "registry" - I am sorry if the
> >> >> >> terms I use are wrong. That's why I think this mailing list is the
> >> >> right place. I think so...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:46 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
> >> >> njbartlett@gmail.com >:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Alex,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> This list might not be the best place to ask about CDI, since it
> is a
> >> >> Java enterprise spec that is not much used with OSGi as far as I can
> >> see.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> In fact your choice to use CDI with OSGi puts you within a very
> >> narrow
> >> >> niche. It may be the case that nobody knows the answer to your
> >> question, or
> >> >> that what you want to achieve is not possible with the current
> tools. If
> >> >> you are willing to invest in improving those tools yourself then you
> >> might
> >> >> make progress… otherwise I would strongly recommend finding a
> different
> >> >> solution.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> >> Neil
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:41, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
> >> <x-msg:
> >> >> //e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3aooo_saturn7@mail.ru >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Neil, thank you for your answer. I asked a question about using
> >> >> getting new instance of DS for every consumer call to work with CDI
> at
> >> this
> >> >> >>> mailing list and at stackoverflow
> >> >>
> >>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31354996/osgi-ds-and-component-factories-issues
> >> >> <
> >> >>
> >>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31354996/osgi-ds-and-component-factories-issues
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> You, Neil, helped me as you could, but you don't like CDI (as I
> >> >> understood). Is here anyone else besides you, who could help, as the
> >> >> question is very important for
> >> >> >>> me and I can't continue work without getting certain answer.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Четверг, 16 июля 2015, 16:35 +01:00 от Neil Bartlett <
> >> >> njbartlett@gmail.com <x-msg: //
> >> >> e.mail.ru/compose/?mailto=mailto%3anjbartlett@gmail.com >>:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> No.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> > On 16 Jul 2015, at 16:34, Alex Sviridov < ooo_saturn7@mail.ru
> >> <>>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > I haven't got any messages from this mailing list. Is it dead?
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > --
> >> >> >>> > Alex Sviridov
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> --
> >> >> >>> Alex Sviridov
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Alex Sviridov
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Alex Sviridov
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >*Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
> >> > (@rotty3000)
> >> >Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
> >> > (@Liferay)
> >> >Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org >
> >> (@OSGiAlliance)
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Alex Sviridov
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >*Raymond Augé* < http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile >
> > (@rotty3000)
> >Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* < http://www.liferay.com >
> > (@Liferay)
> >Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance < http://osgi.org >
> (@OSGiAlliance)
>
>
> --
> Alex Sviridov
>
--
*Raymond Augé* <http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile>
(@rotty3000)
Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <http://www.liferay.com>
(@Liferay)
Board Member & EEG Co-Chair, OSGi Alliance <http://osgi.org> (@OSGiAlliance)